OMG so much ram.
a port is only as good as the developer making it or else every pc port of a console game would be far superior.
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Assassin's Creed 3 Wii U is Identical to other Platforms
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OMG so much ram.
a port is only as good as the developer making it or else every pc port of a console game would be far superior.
1 GB
UncleSporky
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Depending on how you feel about the pad, if a given game is "identical" it still has one or more pad features that could make it better. Off TV play, for example.
I'm more interested in games that are technically superior. ie - faster framerate, better image quality, etc.
Never happened in the past, if you mean that. I mean, stuff like graphic, was never downgrade in the new system, even with unstable SDK, from what I remember.
PM Pramath.
SolarPowered
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You've sorta got a point there. If the Wii U's day one is nearly the best that current gen offers then it ought to have some nice legs. It's not very exciting though.
Ah, sorry, my fault. I thought it was 2 GB.
It is, but the other gig is for system use.
I wasn't talking about a downgrade, I was talking about being able to leverage the greater horsepower of a new generation of hardware when the game is a multiplatform cross-generation release.
gamergirly
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Its not hard coded at 1 GB, some of the 1GB used for the OS will likely be taken for games in the future
In the past, however, multi-generational "up-ports" of games released early in a consoles life span typically ran very well. Improved image quality, faster framerates, etc were all normal and expected.
specialguy
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As already corrected, it's 1GB currently. Plus, whatever they are doing with the tablet screen is going to suck some up. Plus, there's the matter of whether the GPU and I/O systems can handle better textures (not casting aspersions, simply stating fact).
It's likely eventually you will see some benefits of the extra RAM in Wii U, but it might be a while, because the extra amount isn't gamechanging when you factor in the 2nd screen. More of a subtle amount, if you throw out some figure like say, 768MB of RAM after 2nd Wii U pad usage.
And the Wii U is seemingly derogating to this rule...
At least from what we can gather.
Most of these PC ports are better though. Better FPS, AA and textures and some of them even have the option for mods.
Even when developpers put little efforts in their PC version, see ME3 that have the same textures as the console versions and no gamepad support, its still better thanks to higher FPS, resolution and mods. And some would argue mouse aiming makes the combat easier/better.
Examples? I remember a game like Gun didn't really look better on 360 than it did on PS2.
They already are, graphically speaking. The IQ alone makes a big difference.
And this is in the case where little to no effort is put, more often than not the PC has higher resolution textures, more detail, additionnal options, 60fps possible, DX11 stuff (more recently) etc...
recently i'd agree. a couple years ago all you would hear about was shoddy PC ports.
I'm just saying improved hardware doesn't mean a port will magically be better. The ZOEHD collection as a recent example
flyinpiranha
Member
Has this ever been the case though for NEW hardware? I understand working with current generation stuff but I assume the Wii U is more powerful than the 360/PS3 so I wasn't even expected a downgraded port of any of the 'current' games coming out.
Like people have said, every PC port is better (except in extreme examples I'm not aware of) due to greater resolution, better AA, etc ... most of those "shoddy PC ports" were because they didn't take advantage of the new hardware enough, not because they were worse.
I expected about a 50% increase and i think this is in line with that. Yeah, not terribly exciting though.
demosthenes
Member
Someone needs to ask Reggie what he thinks about this.
Gun on 360 was at least Gun Xbox rendered at 1280x720. This would be equivalent to AC3 on WiiU being the same as on other consoles, but rendering at ~2150x1200.
Kazuma Kiryu
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reggie's not available right now, he's checking boxes.
Gemüsepizza
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Nextbox?
For what it's worth, the PS3 version was v-sync'd at the Eurogamer Expo. I imagine all three have zero screen tear this time.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
UBI Soft is correct. I can't remember the last time a game on a next generation console was identical to the same game on consoles a generation behind.
Why bother being an early adopter unless you absolutely have to have the new Mario game? Might as well wait another year for at least one or two big guns to be within reach.
Why bother being an early adopter unless you absolutely have to have the new Mario game? Might as well wait another year for at least one or two big guns to be within reach.
You have. Nintendo rewrite the rules of the porting too.
That's good to hear. I couldn't believe how bad Brotherhood was.
That said, I'm planning to buy the Vita game next week instead and wait for the PC version of AC3 (unless the WiiU version is better than we're expecting).
DangerousDave
Member
Funny part is that, a few months ago, saying that a WiiU version of a game it will be exactly the same as the PS3 or 360 one would be a bad new for WiiU users, instead of a good new.
radioheadrule83
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It's not exactly the same though is it...
it has maps and weapon selection on the gamepad, radar displays and cannon stuff during naval battles etc.
Frankly, given that they've added.. well, anything.. they are releasing it within ~20 days of the other versions (in NA), and the version doesn't suck ass -- that puts it above most previous third party Nintendo ports.
I expect better in future though.
it has maps and weapon selection on the gamepad, radar displays and cannon stuff during naval battles etc.
Frankly, given that they've added.. well, anything.. they are releasing it within ~20 days of the other versions (in NA), and the version doesn't suck ass -- that puts it above most previous third party Nintendo ports.
I expect better in future though.
PS3 hardware is of a similar age to 360. They are of the same generation.
When compared with EA having AC3 being equal to the other platforms is a good thing. Though it could be PR speak. I actually expect the Wii U version to be a bit better in some areas like the wall thing people have suggested, frame rate, etc. However they aren't going to say that as that could possibly upset Sony or Microsoft. It doesn't seem like Ubisoft has a deal like Activision does with Call of Duty to prompt a specific version of the game above all others. So they are doing their best to treat them all equally. Which is fine.
Of course it could be Ubisoft trying their best to be the "good guy" (and remind people of this when they can) when it comes to the Wii U when you have EA putting out inferior versions of Fifa 13 and Madden on the Wii U compared to the other platforms and now Activision/Treyarch not having Elite on the Wii U. Ubisoft I bet wants to stay in the good graces of Nintendo and Nintendo fans. They're going to have a good holiday with all the games they're putting out. A good first impression to Wii U owners is likely to help next holiday be a repeat for them when it comes to whatever game they release then.
Of course it could be Ubisoft trying their best to be the "good guy" (and remind people of this when they can) when it comes to the Wii U when you have EA putting out inferior versions of Fifa 13 and Madden on the Wii U compared to the other platforms and now Activision/Treyarch not having Elite on the Wii U. Ubisoft I bet wants to stay in the good graces of Nintendo and Nintendo fans. They're going to have a good holiday with all the games they're putting out. A good first impression to Wii U owners is likely to help next holiday be a repeat for them when it comes to whatever game they release then.
radioheadrule83
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It's theoretically capable of better in many respects and routinely received inferior ports though
So? PC ports can often be shoddy and they are miles more powerful than the consoles. Third parties can be lazy so it's best just to hope for a copypaste port than an enhanced one.
it took lots of developers 3-4 years to get PS3 ports from 360 on par.
launch games are hacked together in a very short amount of time, without dev kits until the last minute, bad documentation, tools and support. Getting results that are instantly on par with platforms that have had years to mature and get the most out of is actually pretty good.
launch games are hacked together in a very short amount of time, without dev kits until the last minute, bad documentation, tools and support. Getting results that are instantly on par with platforms that have had years to mature and get the most out of is actually pretty good.
It's a complete wrong assessment. It's capable of better in some respects, but 360 has advantages in some other.
Fix The Scientist
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I bet it struggles to hold 30 fps on all 3 systems.
Shoddy PC ports will still look and run better than the console versions 99.9% of the time.
You misread that statement. He's saying the PS3 is capable of more than the ports are delivering NOT that it is more capable than 360.
I doubt it takes anwhere near that amount to run the sceond screen, who know the 1 gig to the os might cover the screen?.
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