Tal Shiar Agent
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Still guys for 3/4 of them. One out of eight (of all AC games) isn't a very good percentage.
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Assassin's Creed Rogue [First screens]
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am pretty sure ubi said this was coming to pc when it was still codenamed comet.
The fact that it's having two titles isn't exactly new news. We've known about it for months.
Why are you assuming he wants to play as a Black protagonist? I, personally, would LOVE to see more diversity amongst lead characters. Females, African Americans, Asians, etc etc
zackmorris
Member
Except that the majority of games, movies, and television shows also write about the same subject matter and plenty of them have the freedom to write about whatever they want. I'm pretty sure they're not using Ubi's market analysis so I don't think your argument makes sense. I would say that probably is what they want to write about.
Those lists aren't always the most reliable.
That's true, but that list is way older reported to the release date. And we know that a Wii U version for Alien: Colonial Marines existed but it was canned after the whole launching scandal and Sega was quiet about it. Also, Watch_Dogs was not on this list on some of the previous lists (my guess is that this happened after Ubisoft decided to put it on hold to work on the other versions) and now it's back in and is fitting what Ubisoft is stating.
Thursday War
Banned
Like I said, I don't care. If the character is interesting, I wouldn't mind.
block tower
Member
ill wait for it to inevitably go to PS4. i bet that happens in January or February to boot.
Garrett Hawke
Member
Nobody in the AAA games industry has true freedom. Every creative decision has to be a fight - it's been documented a lot, and it's why a lot of AAA devs get fed up of the AAA industry and go indie.
Producers and investors will ALWAYS want "proof" that whatever the devs are making will be successful. And that proof comes from market analysis.
Gold_Loot
Member
Is there some kind of problem with white males?
Spiffy_1st
Member
I'm not trying to annoy you or anything, but do you chose what games to play, films to watch or music to listen to or whatever following the same rules? Like...would you not watch Breathless or play Zelda?
How are you sick of a series you don't play ?
Prototype Viktor
Member
Don't worry just more white guys
Saint of Killers
Member
That one screen already has me more interested in this than Unity.
Will wait for the eventual PS4 release, though.
Agent Matt
Member
I wish this wasn't last gen 
However, I will buy it because pirates.
However, I will buy it because pirates.
Not sure what point you're making when a lot of those complaints come from different people for fairly different reasons. That you can't please everyone all the time, I guess?
SerTapTap
Member
Who the hell is complaining about no last gen except people without current gen consoles? That's obviously a different group than those complaining about no current gen or cross gen games.
This will probably happen a few months after they get the Unity vs Rogue sales and realize, as many should be, that last gen is on it's last legs.
That one screen already has me more interested in this than Unity.
Will wait for the eventual PS4 release, though.
This will probably happen a few months after they get the Unity vs Rogue sales and realize, as many should be, that last gen is on it's last legs.
I agree with the rest of your argument, but this is bullshit.
The English ties with Connor were clearly to tie the game to older titles more easily and create a more interesting conflict, but Connor had both the looks and the cultural background of Native American people.
That one screen already has me more interested in this than Unity.
Oh yeah, it'll be a joy to scale those empty glaciers!
Assassin's Creed series? Complaints.
Not gonna lie, I'm tired of it as well. If people don't like it, just ignore it. No one is forcing them to follow the news or play any of them. I love this series and they can keep making them as long as they're good.
Careful, I think I just cut myself on the edginess.
The funny thing is, Ubisoft has actually been pretty good about diversity in AC protagonists. Altair Ibn-La'Ahad, Ratonhnhaké:ton, Aveline de Grandpré, and Adéwalé (if you want to count Freedom Cry) were all protagonists that weren't white males.
I guess people can forget when you come out and say dumb shit to justify your latest game.
I guess people can forget when you come out and say dumb shit to justify your latest game.
Tal Shiar Agent
Member
Yeah, they are extremely over represented in media. Not enough women protagonists and non whites in general in other than villain roles.
They are doing exactly what people wanted. Making games optimized for the new and old systems instead of just one and porting them over.
zackmorris
Member
Right, so it's too bad Tomb Raider didn't sell well so they could use that as proof of success...
Do you think the writers of GTA 5 had freedom? I would bet they did, guess what? Three males and no one was up in arms about that. Its annoying to see people jump on Ubisoft yet when UC4 was announced I didn't see a ton of people saying that they better be able to play as a female and not just Nathan Drake. Same for Halo 5 or Arkham Knight. Where's the outrage?
Also, we're probably only getting two different console AC games this year because Ubi doesn't think Vita is viable anymore. This is probably what would have ended up on Vita a couple years ago.
You are remembering incorrectly.
You are remembering incorrectly.
That sucks, guess you should just skip them then.
I on the other hand will be playing them both happily
.Garrett Hawke
Member
Yes. I am at least 50% more likely to pick up a game if it has a female/non white male protag because I'm fed up of playing as straight white males. Similarly, I am more likely to watch a movie with lead female roles than a movie starring only men.
Okay, I will admit that. Thank you for pointing that out.
Tomb Raider underperformed according to SE, lmao. So that was a good point, thanks.
And are you really so unaware of social issues that you thought that GTA V went down with no complaints? Plenty of reviewers commented on the lack of not only playable female characters but the fact that the female characters in the game were all horribly portrayed. There is plenty of outrage on a lot of issues; if you haven't noticed it then I don't know where you've been.
I thought Altair and to some extent Connor were pretty much white-washed. The latter less than the former, though.
I have much, much praise for Liberation and Freedom Cry though, although they were more "safe" in terms of being a portable game and standalone DLC.
Check out Freedom Cry. It's standalone and doesn't require the trite Black Flag.
Seems like it.
zackmorris
Member
Oh yeah? Those sales numbers don't lie...
Conkerkid11
Member
Out of all the blind hate toward a game we know little about, I didn't expect an argument about gender and race to develop. Kind of embarrassing.
Guess it's only a sexist if it's a guy, and guess it's only racist if he's white.
We should ask those Asians at Konami why they keep making games about white male leads. They must be both racist and sexist.
Guess it's only a sexist if it's a guy, and guess it's only racist if he's white.
We should ask those Asians at Konami why they keep making games about white male leads. They must be both racist and sexist.
Scrooge McDuck
Member
Er, uh. What's with the condescension? Judging people's reason for not playing a game? I think you're the one being petty, here.
JimmyRustler
Gold Member
What a stupid idea to only release the game on last gen. Will buy the inevitable Next Gen port.
Conkerkid11
Member
It's a really dumb reason.
Yeh these threads and some posters are so predictable. You think they'd actively partake in these issues rather than argue with posters (who have no control what so ever of the game) on message boards.
GavinUK86
Member
Sounds alright, I'll probably rent it once I've finished Unity.
Trailer is still available here by the way: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x22u0ss_assassin-s-creed-rogue-trailer-off-screen_videogames
The quality is a bit rubbish though.
Trailer is still available here by the way: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x22u0ss_assassin-s-creed-rogue-trailer-off-screen_videogames
The quality is a bit rubbish though.
Garrett Hawke
Member
He's talking about the GTA V thing.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/wo...s-designed-deliberately-to-degrade-women.html
http://kotaku.com/grand-theft-auto-v-and-women-1344112808
http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2013/09/26/on-gender-and-gta-5/
Also, TR underperformed according to SE. http://www.onlysp.com/square-enix-c...ogs-underpeformed-in-sales-president-resigns/
And even though it sold 5M, that's a single female-protag game that sold 5M. While there are tens of white male protag games every year that sell millions.
Garrett Hawke
Member
Japan has a terrible track record with both racism and sexist issues. So uh... yes. You should ask them. I'm sure they'd have interesting replies.
Scrooge McDuck
Member
It's a game. And their decision doesn't affect you whatsoever.
Not really.
If you don't want people to discuss video games, you might not want to post on a video game message board.
Lord of Castamere
Member
So here's the shitty off screen footage of the trailer.
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x22u0ss_assassin-s-creed-rogue-trailer-off-screen_videogame
I'm confused as to where this will take place. What is fort de sable? Is it supposed to Fort Lomeron on Cape Sable Island, Nova Scotia. I'm assuming that's it.
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x22u0ss_assassin-s-creed-rogue-trailer-off-screen_videogame
I'm confused as to where this will take place. What is fort de sable? Is it supposed to Fort Lomeron on Cape Sable Island, Nova Scotia. I'm assuming that's it.
I don't mind if people want to discuss those things, but it's a bit sad that only 3 pages in, half the posts of this thread are already about this and not even speculation or discussion about the actual leak.
If the point is just to mention for every game announced that, here too, the character is a white male, then why not, but maybe we should leave it at that and not start counter-argumenting forever in every new thread.
On a side note, I do agree it feels like only Assassin's Creed takes shit like this, for some reason.
Saint of Killers
Member
You'd much rather clamber over empty buildings offering next to no gameplay? ;> But seriously, I got tired of climbing structures in AC a long time ago so something wholly different to climb over > same old crap (maybe they'll introduce new climbing mechanics to go with the new surfaces). And anyway, maybe we'll be manoeuvring around them while having epic Arctic sea battles instead of scaling them.