bodyboarder
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Considering the $300 sales on PS4/xbone as of late it's personally hard to justify the price.
What happens tomorrow or was the a bad pun?
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Considering the $300 sales on PS4/xbone as of late it's personally hard to justify the price.
What happens tomorrow or was the a bad pun?
codswallop
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Considering the launch price of the PS4 and Xbox One ($550 and $600), I don't think the Switch price is unreasonable. Sure the other players have reduced price and that can't be ignored, but to me the price seems OK for launch hardware.
That said, besides Zelda, there's nothing that interests me at all (I think Mario looked rather dull, but it was a brief showing). Everything else is targeted at someone else. I really like design of the hardware, but if there's nothing to go with it... ehhh.
I need to buy some for the same reason so have been researching cables. Because cable reviews being necessary are a thing in the late 2010s (getting the wrong ones, particularly when relating to charging, can result in damaged hardware).
That said, besides Zelda, there's nothing that interests me at all (I think Mario looked rather dull, but it was a brief showing). Everything else is targeted at someone else. I really like design of the hardware, but if there's nothing to go with it... ehhh.
According to the Google engineer who reviews these things, this Belkin one is appropriate: https://www.jbhifi.com.au/computers...n/belkin-usb-a-3-1-to-usb-c-3-1-cable/718721/
I need to buy some for the same reason so have been researching cables. Because cable reviews being necessary are a thing in the late 2010s (getting the wrong ones, particularly when relating to charging, can result in damaged hardware).
ClivePwned
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things to consider re: Switch price.
It's expensive. They are all expensive at launch
-AU dollar isn't anywhere near parity with US dollar anymore like it was until between 2010 and 2013
-nintendo don't price things cheap, especially away form US or Japan nor do they lose money
-They may feel the positive buzz they got during the reveal a few months back meant they could get away with a higher price. you can only sell something for what the market will bear. Probably the thing that hurt X1 the most at launch amongst casuals and the like was the fact it was more expensive than a PS4 in the US (though the price differential in AU was not so bad since Sony gonna Sony)
AUD $549 (PS4) vs AUD$599 (X1)
-Nintendo may have priced this in a way that acknowledges its a niche thing rather than a mass market thing like Wii.
-10 years later and its still around $60 more than the Wii was
-you don't have to buy it at launch or ever.
-there is form for stuff being pitched at too high a price being adjusted, either at launch or shortly after, especially by Nintendo.
-Zelda, man. It's Zelda.
Gamecube was cut by $30 shortly before launch, 3DS had its price adjusted after about six months, and the Wii U was able to be had for up to $50 less than its RRP on launch day. Some remember the OG Xbox getting a huge cut shortlky after launch and early adopters got an extra controller and two first party games as compensation. Recently I had my PS4 Pro preorder had its price slashed by amazon UK before launch and I saved the equivalent of $30 plus a big discount on a game that came with it. Of course, restricted launch numbers might negate the need for them to cut straight away. Though that hasn't worked out that well for PSVR in the end (a local studio focusing on PSVR got canned this week).
Make enough noise, and if they don't get the preorder numbers they were hoping for, then they might 'realign' pricing. Or not. who the fuck knows?
I like the idea that's been bandied about of a non portable version of switch. Unlike the Wii U and the gamepad, I don't see a reason why it's not possible but then, Nintendo really wants to sell us on the hybrid aspect of the system.
It's expensive. They are all expensive at launch
-AU dollar isn't anywhere near parity with US dollar anymore like it was until between 2010 and 2013
-nintendo don't price things cheap, especially away form US or Japan nor do they lose money
-They may feel the positive buzz they got during the reveal a few months back meant they could get away with a higher price. you can only sell something for what the market will bear. Probably the thing that hurt X1 the most at launch amongst casuals and the like was the fact it was more expensive than a PS4 in the US (though the price differential in AU was not so bad since Sony gonna Sony)
AUD $549 (PS4) vs AUD$599 (X1)
-Nintendo may have priced this in a way that acknowledges its a niche thing rather than a mass market thing like Wii.
-10 years later and its still around $60 more than the Wii was
-you don't have to buy it at launch or ever.
-there is form for stuff being pitched at too high a price being adjusted, either at launch or shortly after, especially by Nintendo.
-Zelda, man. It's Zelda.
Gamecube was cut by $30 shortly before launch, 3DS had its price adjusted after about six months, and the Wii U was able to be had for up to $50 less than its RRP on launch day. Some remember the OG Xbox getting a huge cut shortlky after launch and early adopters got an extra controller and two first party games as compensation. Recently I had my PS4 Pro preorder had its price slashed by amazon UK before launch and I saved the equivalent of $30 plus a big discount on a game that came with it. Of course, restricted launch numbers might negate the need for them to cut straight away. Though that hasn't worked out that well for PSVR in the end (a local studio focusing on PSVR got canned this week).
Make enough noise, and if they don't get the preorder numbers they were hoping for, then they might 'realign' pricing. Or not. who the fuck knows?
I like the idea that's been bandied about of a non portable version of switch. Unlike the Wii U and the gamepad, I don't see a reason why it's not possible but then, Nintendo really wants to sell us on the hybrid aspect of the system.
ClivePwned
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history either repeats or it doesn't. the worst thing to happen is that you don't get to play BotW on switch for a while. I totally get being gunsgy about a console that has an equal chance of success at this price as it does of failure. (as in $1000 PS3 didn't stop that console eventually selling well)
ThoseDeafMutes
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Right, same problem in other regions too. Was just pointing out that Australia didn't really get ripped off, it's not cheap compared to the competition anywhere.
reptilescorpio
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Hand on with the Switch tomorrow!
ClivePwned
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We're all wearing white. Go and put a jacket on, Jintor!
bodyboarder
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Yeah the price is fairly similar across the board, just too steep imo.
Nice.
Road trip!
Benzychenz
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So what's the best retailer to preorder hardware with?
I only want Zelda until Splatoon 2 but I can't bring myself to play the inferior Wii U version when I know the Switch version exists
I only want Zelda until Splatoon 2 but I can't bring myself to play the inferior Wii U version when I know the Switch version exists
endlessflood
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Sounds like a Seinfeld episode lol
I only live about 5 minutes from there though if you get stuck.
dishwasherlove
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PVM's plural? Looking to recoup some of that fuel cost?
May have to take you up on that offer! Even if it's just to pick them up so I can organise a courier a bit easier. If feel better about a delivery guy picking them up from someone I know than some eBay seller I've never spoken to before.
Much appreciated!!
Not necessarily! I'm going to see if/how well they work. They're only 14", so might have one for Tate and the other normal. That's if they both work!
reptilescorpio
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Yep!
EB most reliable, otherwise go JB would be fine I expect.So what's the best retailer to preorder hardware with?
I only want Zelda until Splatoon 2 but I can't bring myself to play the inferior Wii U version when I know the Switch version exists
What bundles can they give when the only notable launch game is Zelda?
I think retailers know if you're buying a Switch at launch you're going to pay the extra to get Zelda too.
Figured I would ask here. Does anyone know with any degree of certaintly, when Super Street Fighter 2 was released officially here in Australia? Wiki says it was a few weeks after the US date (August 1994) but that seems really really off to me. I seem to remember it was like a year after the release date, so mid-late 1995. Anyone?
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I'm going go get one to play Zelda and Splatoon in bed ಠ_ృ
viciouskillersquirrel
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You'll take your one game a month and like it. First up: Urban Champion!
I'm undecided as to whether the online system will be a hot mess or not. Surely they've wisened up an have moved on from friend codes. They've been messing with online accounts thanks to miitomo and pokemon go to boot.
On the other hand it is nintendo and everything about the launch so far has been pretty... underwhelming.
On the other hand it is nintendo and everything about the launch so far has been pretty... underwhelming.
endlessflood
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Are they filled with heroin? They're filled with heroin, aren't they?
Send me a PM and we'll get it sorted out.
mikezilla2
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the player pool cant be that big when all is said and done with that said tho
they will be the first to have a paid online service for both handheld games and consoles all on one day device i mean dos the market relly need paid online on the go ?
one thing i also didnt think about was if they have paid wifi options lol
they will be the first to have a paid online service for both handheld games and consoles all on one day device i mean dos the market relly need paid online on the go ?
one thing i also didnt think about was if they have paid wifi options lol
Nah I doubt it was mid-late 1995. The original PlayStation came out November 1995 in AU and I was playing SSF2 well before that came out.
edit: I do remember that Nintendo Aus actually distributed the version here (and Megaman X) and at that point were actually getting stuff out rather quickly. DKC ended up being released in Aus first (due to timezone differences)
viciouskillersquirrel
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I've heard people talking about the free lend of the VC title as a ploy to get a whole bunch of people playing the same game simultaneously and thus kick-start the online communities for these titles. It would mitigate the issues you get with games that are like Triforce Heroes but that don't have the Zelda name cache.
Basically, they're trying to make sure an online multiplayer Urban Champion is worth making.
If that's their intent though, it's a poorly communicated one.
So does anyone want to take a crack at making a Steam <-> Discord chat bot?
I think of the main hurdles that is keeping people from moving from IRC to Discord is the lack of chat integration.
Might even have to make a Steam <-> IRC <-> Discord chat bot, if possible.
I'm thinking late 2017 in a bundle, maybe even early 2018 if there are some good post holiday deals.
I think of the main hurdles that is keeping people from moving from IRC to Discord is the lack of chat integration.
Might even have to make a Steam <-> IRC <-> Discord chat bot, if possible.
I'm thinking late 2017 in a bundle, maybe even early 2018 if there are some good post holiday deals.
viciouskillersquirrel
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Inflation is that thing that makes balloons bigger and chocolate bars smaller.
I am making the safe prediction that Switch will at least do PSP numbers worldwide and end up somewhere between 3DS and Wii. It will be just fine.
Yea I'm sure it will do just fine as well, just Gaf being Gaf.
So I'm not wrong and they used to be substantially bigger right?
viciouskillersquirrel
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GAF in general has its head up its own butt regarding what makes a product appealing to people who aren't dorks like us. The prices, while disappointing, are a signal from Nintendo that they think they have a hit on their hands. Launching at $50 above what level the GAF consensus is on what the price "should" be is what they did with both the 3DS and Wii U. They lost big on both those bets, but I am sure they regret not doing that for Wii and DS.
You can always lower the prices when you need to spur sales. You cannot raise them for a hit.
And yes, I am pretty sure the magnums are smaller. It's not just you.
For some definitions of fine. Can't do worse than WiiiU very easily at least.
I guess my surprise alongside unacceptable battery life is that there wasn't many/any games that lean on the handheld heritage*. Or maybe that was just deliberate marketing to push it as a home console you can travel with rather than the reverse.
*well that and my surprise that they returned hard to the motion control gimmick.
The launch line up just plain sucks. The only first party shit they have right now are a Zelda game that's also on Wii U, a port of Mario Kart 8 with no new tracks eight weeks later. Then it's Splatoon 2 with a nebulous Summer/Winter 2017 until Holiday 2017 for Mario.
Four first party titles announced for the entire year. That's not even considering the ridiculous price they're asking for a weak console/handheld with shitty battery life.
Four first party titles announced for the entire year. That's not even considering the ridiculous price they're asking for a weak console/handheld with shitty battery life.
I'll eat my metaphorical hat if Mario comes out his year. Ditto Xenoblade.
viciouskillersquirrel
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I could definitely see Xenoblade 2 missing its date, but Mario doesn't have the history of getting delayed after announcements that Zelda and Xenoblade have.
The rest though are definitely being held back. There is a huge Animal Crossing sized hole in the Wii U lineup, we don't know what Retro is doing and all the small and mid tier stuff that would normally go to the 3DS hasn't been mentioned either. The 3DS level stuff that would be absolutely eclipsed by having Zelda at launch is probably going to get announced and released in a trickle.
If this thing does get Pokemon, it will be a huge deal.
mikezilla2
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so both my Gaf foo and google Foo is failing me a little
i decided to play MKXL on the PS4 with a friend just the other day and i like it ( i also have MK9) thing is im wondering if there is much of diffrence betwean short cut moves ie L1 for a Grab Vs Saqure + X for a grab move ? ie stronger ? logicaly some of these same combos should be weaker or none chainable
is there a fighting game thread i should ask in or an MK thread i should ask in ? ie for talking about move sets and combos ?
tried looking for an MK thread but theres alot and they are mostly dorment and the one i posted in was simply ignored or not noticed.
thanks guys
Edit : for those intrested in the LRG relase of firewatch the campo santo pre sale is over, more copies to come tommrow - after that - thats it
this is probbly there best if not one of there best selling titles
i decided to play MKXL on the PS4 with a friend just the other day and i like it ( i also have MK9) thing is im wondering if there is much of diffrence betwean short cut moves ie L1 for a Grab Vs Saqure + X for a grab move ? ie stronger ? logicaly some of these same combos should be weaker or none chainable
is there a fighting game thread i should ask in or an MK thread i should ask in ? ie for talking about move sets and combos ?
tried looking for an MK thread but theres alot and they are mostly dorment and the one i posted in was simply ignored or not noticed.
thanks guys
Edit : for those intrested in the LRG relase of firewatch the campo santo pre sale is over, more copies to come tommrow - after that - thats it
this is probbly there best if not one of there best selling titles
That's a big call considering PSP did 82 million worldwide. It'll be nice if the Switch could reach 3DS numbers of 60 million but I wouldn't call that safe either considering the worldwide (except Japan) downtrend of handheld gaming sales.
It'll do better than the GameCube and Wii U by virtue of being Nintendo's next handheld device (even if it isn't currently priced or marketed like it) but man, it definitely needs a year for the price to drop and the library to build before it reaches that mass market sellable point, which is what happened to the 3DS too.
viciouskillersquirrel
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I think PSP numbers are the absolute floor for the system, personally, unless the entire gaming industry in Japan collapses. It will have a desirable library just for being the successor to the Vita and 3DS in Japan and games sell systems.
Guess it depends on whether Nintendo really is abandoning all other hardware, or whether this is just a WiiU replacement and we'll still see a DS successor that's cheaper. certainly Nintendo is pushing the idea that its a home console you can leave the home with rather than a DS you can plug into a TV.
Personally I'll be amazed if it does PSP numbers, but then I think the dedicated handheld market is basically over, aside from I guess Japan. Most people will be happy enough with games on their phones, especially if Nintendo keeps putting out phone games.
viciouskillersquirrel
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Nintendo putting out phone games seems right now to be less about making revenue from the games themselves and more about driving awareness of their brands and upselling people onto their dedicated hardware. When it comes to Pokemon, for instance, the success of Pokemon Go has catapulted 3DS sales into the stratosphere, to the point where people are talking about shortages for a system that's almost six years old.
If they drop the pokebomb on Switch, they have a near guaranteed hit.
But yeah, I do think they're planning to abandon all other hardware unless Switch is a sales disaster.
reptilescorpio
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82 million doesn't really seem like a safe prediction!
My safe bet would be outsell WiiU lol
3DS is at 62 million but after the Pokemon Go/Sun/Moon craze I assume it's up past 65 million, maybe closer to 70.
E3 will bring Pokemon, TGS will likely have a Yokai title too.
I actually think Xenoblade 2 could hit 2017 but should get shifted into first half of 2018 to avoid bomba. Mario will be fine unless they do a complete revamp.
It's fantastic. Really great quality with an awesome map/info sheet and a delightful postcard! All for $30 USD before postage.
The core gaming industry DID collapse. The majority of the market went to mobile, even Sony make more money from that than core gaming in Japan now!
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