I'm guessing it's from having SW messing with his head. The shot of Hulk's hand out in front of Widow seems like a scene where Hulk might be getting confused/losing control of who he is and recognizes. Cue the Hulk/IM battle in the streets. After, Banner is all shaken up after having been fucked with and put out of control like that.
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Avengers: Age of Ultron Trailer #1
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I'm guessing it's from having SW messing with his head. The shot of Hulk's hand out in front of Widow seems like a scene where Hulk might be getting confused/losing control of who he is and recognizes. Cue the Hulk/IM battle in the streets. After, Banner is all shaken up after having been fucked with and put out of control like that.
Not a fan of the mouth at all... it ruins the menacing look he had. So we'll never see this shape of eyes/mouth in this incarnation.
They humanized the crap out of his eyes and mouth to the point where, the more I look at it, the more awful it actually looks.
*You now see his mouth as eyes*
Interesting. Even if we know it involved the Scepter Loki forgot.
Also in the whole Civil War stuff
I'm thinking that this will involve the World Security Council + USA and the Army vs. every other metahuman, including the Avengers team, Coulson's dollar_storeSHIELD and the other guys in the Netflix shows
Vulcano's assistant
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To be fair, seems like there are neither eyes nor mouth in there, but shapes that look like them.
shinobi602
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For someone who doesn't know much about the comics, is there any particular reason Iron Man is fighting Hulk?
BronsonLee
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Because Tony's an asshole/Hulk is probably freaking out and Iron Man needs to stop him
Don't you want to wait and see the movie instead of being spoiled?
Speculation goes that Scarlet Witch put a spell on Hulk, making him go crazy. Iron Man puts on the Hulkbuster... et voila.
We havent seen the movie yet, too
The last time they fought with Tony in the Hulkbuster, Hulk declared War on a group of Heroes who shoot him into space. He fellt in love with warrior woman there who got killed as the spaceship exploded. He tought Tony and the others constructed the spaceship as a bomb and seeked for revenge.
Its very unlikely that a similar thing will happen in the movie
Not a fan of the mouth at all... it ruins the menacing look he had. So we'll never see this shape of eyes/mouth in this incarnation.
They humanized the crap out of his eyes and mouth to the point where, the more I look at it, the more awful it actually looks.
They know what the iconic look is.
I'll just have to put trust in them that they'll get this Ultron on screen for his final form.
SlowRevolution
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kind of shocked/impressed that they didn't ruin the trailer by ending it with a dumb joke.
spader sounds great.
spader sounds great.
HomerSimpson-Man
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You know the most hyped aspect of the first Avenger trailers were with Hulk and Ironman too. The scene in which Hulk caught Ironman in mid-air got everyone all sorts of giddy. Marvel knows what's up to tease Hulkbuster versus Hulk.
GotchaForce
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Digging your theories, dude. Having a blah day but hanging out in this thread has been fun.
vinnygambini
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As someone who doesn't follow Marvel much, this was quite a good reveal.
Looks much better than the first.
I'm telling you Marvel is getting their shit together. Captain America: The Winter Soldier and Guardians of the Galaxy were great! Hope they continue the tradition!
Looks much better than the first.
I'm telling you Marvel is getting their shit together. Captain America: The Winter Soldier and Guardians of the Galaxy were great! Hope they continue the tradition!
Oh shit, X-Men/Avengers Movie Crossover confirmedI see what you did there Whedon...
Miles Quaritch
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That does sound more plausible and something that would genuinely leave him shaken.
If memory serves, don't the twins start out as villains? If so, that could be seen as adding more weight to Scarlett being the reason he looks so haunted/shaken.
Master Yoshi
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I hope this scene begins with Stark with no armor, and then suiting up twice.
Pai Pai Master
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I have a feeling they aren't going to be outright evil in the beginning of the film. We know Hydra has held them captive for some time and has experimented on them and done some pretty horrible things. They're probably under extreme duress and forced to attack the Avengers even against their own will.
I'm thinking that confrontation is going to keep the Avengers occupied while Ultron is starting to become self-aware and fucking insane in the background, and the team will save the twins from him and they'll realize they're on the wrong side, and are safe from Hydra with the Avengers backing them up.
Actually from the trailer, it looks like Ultron recruits the twins to fight on his side.
Gherid__lacksGPS
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Howard stark, tessaract, arch reactor? Holy shit, why did i never make the connection......be sick if its legit. Adds a shit ton of depth and retrospect. Damn.
shira
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DXLelouch153
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then Pietro dies and Wanda goes apeshit on Ultron
Aw shit, that'd be hot.
"I'm waiting for my suit"
"What are you talking ab..."
Doesn't seem like it, though.
Major Gripex
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That trailer was pretty epic... though the style kinda reminded me of the Iron Man 3 trailer.
Hopefully the twist isn't that Ultron is actually just an actor.
Hopefully the twist isn't that Ultron is actually just an actor.
BeatResetsTheWorld
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If he was a top level actor he could've made do without the facial expressions. If Tom Hardy can act with a mask covering 90% of his face as Bane, Karl Urban with only his mouth visible as Dredd, and James Early Jones wearing a completely immobile mask as Vader, then Spader can make do with just his tone and inflections.
It's a weak excuse, for a "top level" actor
GotchaForce
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Personally, Ultron at the end of that trailer creeped me the hell out and not just his voice but his movement. A giant, wide open mouth that never moves would look silly on the big screen I imagine.
That trailer was pretty epic... though the style kinda reminded me of the Iron Man 3 trailer.
Hopefully the twist isn't that Ultron is actually just an actor.
Man Ultron being a day time soap opera star. Fantastic.
Calculon -> Ultron sounds good to me!
It allready is becuz WhedonOh shit, X-Men/Avengers Movie Crossover confirmed
But reading Dangerous right now, I can see Whedon looking back at Danger's design in Astonishing X-Men.
Pai Pai Master
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I will refer you to Slayven's excellent thread detailing Ultron and his long history.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=917674
(hint: he's the best Avengers villain)
Not a fan of the mouth at all... it ruins the menacing look he had. So we'll never see this shape of eyes/mouth in this incarnation.
They humanized the crap out of his eyes and mouth to the point where, the more I look at it, the more awful it actually looks.
I don't understand why people keep acting like this is what Ultron will look like for the entire movie. They used his face from the comics on a poster so it's pretty clear that this is just one of the many forms that Ultron will take over the course of the movie.
Live Free or Die
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Not a fan of the mouth at all... it ruins the menacing look he had. So we'll never see this shape of eyes/mouth in this incarnation.
They humanized the crap out of his eyes and mouth to the point where, the more I look at it, the more awful it actually looks.
I'm big fan of it. He looks freaky in the trailer.
He just needs the glow on the sides of his mouth.
bodyofanamerican
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Not a fan of the mouth at all... it ruins the menacing look he had. So we'll never see this shape of eyes/mouth in this incarnation.
They humanized the crap out of his eyes and mouth to the point where, the more I look at it, the more awful it actually looks.
I like this much better as well, but I wonder if the humanization of his face has to do with creating a model that Spader could effectively emote and act through.
dark_inferno
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So its a long time until its Release.
Why not tweet Whedon about it and show how we feel about those teeth and eyes of Ultron?
Why not tweet Whedon about it and show how we feel about those teeth and eyes of Ultron?
Pai Pai Master
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ding ding ding
it's stupid to get a great actor like spader to voice the character and just have a static robot face.
it's the kind thing that looks great in art/animation but would look silly in a live action film.
even if his "final form" looks less human and more like the classic comic style, I still expect him to have functioning eyes and mouth.
A good example of this would be Green Goblin in Spider-Man 1. One of the most expressive actors in the world with a power-rangers helmet covering his whole face. The dialog scene between him and Spider-Man in costume was ridiculous.
They know what the iconic look is.
I'll just have to put trust in them that they'll get this Ultron on screen for his final form.
Really hope they use the iconic one as the final form. He looks like a transformer now.
BeatResetsTheWorld
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Or the 3 examples I posted who somehow managed...
Tom Hardy (Bane)
Karl Urban (Dredd)
James Earl Jones (Vader)
And, considering how imposing he sounds just listening to his voice over during the trailer, even without it being attached to anything, I honestly don't think it would have turned out as badly as you guys (or the people making the movie) seem to think.
In fact, the scene at 30 secs is how I'd imagine it to be. Seeing his jerky robotic movements and expressionless face combined with his eerily human mannerisms and emoting, actually contributes to the creepiness
I will refer you to Slayven's excellent thread detailing Ultron and his long history.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=917674
(hint: he's the best Avengers villain)
Thanks mate. I'm still in the dark. It's just a really smart robot then.
Hurrah!
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EroticSushi
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Here's a little edit I did. Just slapped his original face design on his head.
Pai Pai Master
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2 of those 3 characters, you can still see their eyes or mouth moving. And I love Jones/Vader but I don't think he was particularly emotive, just a really cool, intimidating character with an interesting story behind him.
Ultron isn't just a creepy robot, he's legitimately bat-shit insane and you really need to have the character able to portray those things in an expressive manner for it to be really effective. It works in comics with effective writing, but you can elevate the character to something further with CGI facial capture.
Sheroking's Green Goblin example is spot on. This is a character who is also mentally unstable, and he just looked stupid with that dumb helmet on. The acting didn't portray him as crazy outside of "wow this guy is fucking nuts for wearing something so stupid looking." Look at how effective Dafoe is at portraying Osborne's increasing insanity when he's unmasked, compared to him bouncing his head around and moving his hands around to emote like a fucking power rangers character.
DonasaurusRex
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wait a minute....Karl Urban had his mouth exposed and played a character that was the embodiment of the law , James Earl Jones was the voice actor, he had a guy in a suit doin Vaders body movements, JEJ aint that damn tall..., Bane had cool lines and fighting scenes what does Hardy's face have to do with his fame? he wasn't motion captured. What is the is the famous bane facial expression or pose? There isn't one besides trash talking meme screen caps. He has classic lines and beat Batmans ass.
Here's a little edit I did. Just slapped his original face design on his head.
Dat thick neck.
Jest Chillin
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Here's a little edit I did. Just slapped his original face design on his head.
I'm not fond of this. Head looks too much like a jack o'lantern imo.
Can't be, we see Tony in his regular suit inside the Hulkbuster and you can see pieces of the Hulkbuster flying in like in Iron Man 3.
Probably Hulk goes crazy and Tony has to activate his Hulk contingency plans.
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