Roll a d20, add any modifiers, subtract that total from THAC0, and then compare it to the target's AC.
If it's equal or less than the AC, you hit. If it's more, you miss. THAC0 is a lot simpler than people remember.
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Baldur's Gate: Enhanced Edition announced - Summer 2012 [Up: BG2:EE also announced]
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If it's equal or less than the AC, you hit. If it's more, you miss. THAC0 is a lot simpler than people remember.
Biggest thing to add are tooltips for understanding what exactly all those flashing auras and lights surrounding mages are, especially in BG2. Too often fights became a clusterfuck guessing game of casting various 'Breach-type' spells in hope they properly counter whatever swirling magical effects were at work on mages especially. The single biggest complaint I had during my replay last summer off GoG.
Haeleos
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You don't even know what you're talking about.
FrontalMonk
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Ot they did saw how modders done that and now they rerelese as Enchenced edition (bg1 and 2 on 2 engine as one game with working multi), if that's the enchanced edition then i will buy it day one.
New graphical style for the Enhanced Edition!
BG1 already has a lot of extra content over the years. I imagine they updated the graphics. Even if the updated graphics are inoffensive, it wouldn't be a huge selling point to me. Especially considering the way they built this up.
Anoregon
The flight plan I just filed with the agency list me, my men, Dr. Pavel here. But only one of you!
Really? The game still looks great.
Sentenza
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And the interface is as simple and streamlined as it can get, especially in BG2 (in fact all the successive attempt to "improve it" in other games failed miserably).
I just watched a gameplay video of it. Pause at the start of the battle, the guy selected a shitload of commands, unpaused for like 2 seconds, paused again, selected another batch of commands, unpaused for a couple of seconds, selected more commands, unpaused, battle won.
It's almost how I play Dragon Age Origins (hear me out, before you people rip me apart), but this game looks a lot more tactical than any modern games, I can see some people not really feeling interested on getting to play it. I might, one day.
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
I've somehow never played the Baldur's Gate games, so I'm cautiously optimistic. If this sucks, I'll probably go ahead and play the originals.
And they better keep it this way.
Excitement rising. That inspires some confidence at least. Now to find out which members.
Anoregon
The flight plan I just filed with the agency list me, my men, Dr. Pavel here. But only one of you!
Baller. PhD
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Sentenza
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Yeah, well, it plays *exactly like an improved version of Dragon age, with better ruleset and more tactical combat.
About pausing every two seconds... that's up to the player, actually.
PapaJustify
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What tells you that?
oh shit, hype rising. this could be something. still not in full fap mode till more details emerge.
FunkyPajamas
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Do you understand that in between those "unpaused for like 2 seconds" and everything else comes a lot of thinking, strategy and "oh shit"s?
Anoregon
The flight plan I just filed with the agency list me, my men, Dr. Pavel here. But only one of you!
Truth. I'd say the BG series is an example of the audio actually being more important to the "feel" of the game than the graphics.
3rd Editition sholdn't be that hard though, Icewind Dale 2 was using that too. (And I think there are some mod projects for BG trying to achive the same thing.)
Steve Youngblood
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Well, maybe there's another version? That's possible. However, Beamdog is a PC Games service. So, we definitely know it's coming out for the PC. Other platforms? Who knows.
this. I have half boner.
I suppose that isn't that bad. D20 + mods >= AC => hit is still vastly superior of course.
This is basically what makes me so pessimistic - I see almost no chance of them nailing the feel and style of the original game... BG has so much charm, that pretty much any change could ruin. That said, the game could use some modernization in term of UI, which I hope is pretty much all they change.
Anoregon
The flight plan I just filed with the agency list me, my men, Dr. Pavel here. But only one of you!
For real, let me see a single god damn screenshot or something!
I'd like that. I know I found Origins to be an awesome game when I played it in PC and found it a horrible, boring mess on consoles when I played it first in there.
Maybe by looking at it it doesn't look that way, I'd need to experience that firsthand. I wasn't criticizing the gameplay, but mostly of a "I don't know what the hell is going on" thing.
Anticitizen One
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This better be on ipad
Whether it'd be hard or not for them to change it to 3rd or 4th edition (and let's be honest, if they are going to change it, it's going to be 4th Edition) isn't the issue here. The issue is just the amount of work it'd require for them to go back and rework everything to fit within the confines of the new system. Again, not hard, but it's a lot of effort when it'd be much easier for them to just focus on updating the visuals and adding new content.
Icewind Dale 2 was a game built from the ground up for 3E. This wasn't.
Anticitizen One
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Never forget:
It is a shitty ruleset, and I am a long time d&d player. BG games are good in spite of the gameplay mechanics not because then.
PapaJustify
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mclaren777
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I'd much rather have Dark Alliance HD on PSN/XBL.
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
Well, duh. How stupid would Bioware have to be to omit that?
Then again, they did make Dragon Age II.
Oh definitely. While THAC0 is simply just an extra step of math above that, it's still an extra step and entirely unnecessary in the face of what 3rd and 4th went with.
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