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[water_wendi]

I think that's my point. I believe there are more "quality gates" exist around some of the more mental people on GAF which isn't there for Blizzard forums.

But you dont have to be a Gaf member to read Gaf.

 

[Archie]

I know it has been reiterated a hundred times: but if the RealID was really about cleaning up the forums, they would just have all players tied to a singular account and implement a three strikes policy where the third infraction leads to a permaban. That would eliminate the level 1 "buttseks" alts and encourage people to behave in a more civil manner.

 

[DarkJC]

One screenshot was debunked, it's still possible. A GearScore 3.2 beta does exist, it's not entirely clear who made it, but the only fact that matters is that the code that reveals RealID names is real.

Just to clear this up, no, it's not possible. Your client doesn't even know your own full name, it's not visible anywhere. The names shown in the screenshots were fake names generated by the addon that was faking it. Again, watch the video made by the person who writes Gearscore.

 

[bigdaddygamebot]

The average GAF user is not who you should be worrying about. Hell, not even GAF users. Do you know how many people read these forums?

no...actually. I don't know how many people read these forums.

No one...and I mean NO ONE in my life that I have ever encountered knows ANYTHING about GAF.

We're not exactly a proboards.com forum but I didn't think GAF was that "big".

**added last minute**

I think the odds of getting stalked from having my real name published on an internet gaming forum of this size is about the same as having a random stranger approach me and try to fuck with me.

Slim. Quite slim.

 

[bigdaddygamebot]

Fun fact: my dad knew more about my girlfriend than I did before I introduced them. All through the internet, all he had to go by was her name. He knew where she lived, where she worked, where she spent her holidays, her vacations and what kind of car she drove, all within 30 minutes of simply using Google.

You have a parent that is invested. Good for him and good for you.

There needs to be more parents out there like your dad.

 

[SupaNaab]

The fact that RealID has become such a large debate for the gaming community makes it all the more a problem. If you were having a debate on the Blizz forums and someone wanted to hit you where it hurts we both know its gonna be the RealID. It's just the easiest scapegoat to abuse.

Also RealID will force me to avoid otherwise fun things in Blizzard games. There is no way Im gonna play my pinkpigtailed female gnome warrior named Executie with my real name attached. I've had lots of fun with the character but I'd rather have a serious roleplaying avatar if I had to use it with RealID.

 

[Naeblish]

If you ask me, Blizzard isn't the enemy. Google is. You aren't searching the Blizzard forums for pictures of someone's house.

Except that everything that Google searches is intentionally put there by individuals knowing fully well that their information is out in the open viewable for the public. Except for Google maps ofcourse.

 

[water_wendi]

no...actually. I don't know how many people read these forums.

No one...and I mean NO ONE in my life that I have ever encountered knows ANYTHING about GAF.

We're not exactly a proboards.com forum but I didn't think GAF was that "big".

Well you can always look at what happened right here on Neogaf with the trans thread. Some other forum found the thread and took the pics and info posted there to make bigoted things about Neogaf members. People outside of Gaf read Gaf.

 

[Evlar]

Except that everything that Google searches is intentionally put there by individuals knowing fully well that their information is out in the open viewable for the public. Except for Google maps ofcourse.

Bullshit.

 

[ChronicleX]

No, seriously, have you not heard of the things that 4chan has done? Like find photos of a girl that died in a car accident, literally masturbate on those photos, and send those stained photos to the dead girl's family?

This would be a fucking field day for these people.

Aye I made this point in the last topic, this would be a gold mine for 4Chan. I remember onetime someone from 4chan hacked someones PC that contained footage/pic's of his girlfriend then made a pornsite out of it, then emailed the girlfriend and everyone in that guys contact list for MSN, including the girlfriends parents. Oh and did I mention she was not yet legal?

4Chan is a real fucked up place, the Special Olympics version of the Legion of Doom.

 

[water_wendi]

Except that everything that Google searches is intentionally put there by individuals knowing fully well that their information is out in the open viewable for the public. Except for Google maps ofcourse.

Except that isnt the case. A basic example, your high school could post your graduating year info on their site without your consent. Once it hits the net and is cached its there forever.

Try a site like http://pipl.com/ and see what comes up.

 

[Malio]

This is a real mis-step on Blizzard's part. Glad I haven't played WoW for over three years, and don't post on their forums.

 

[bigdaddygamebot]

The fact that RealID has become such a large debate for the gaming community makes it all the more a problem. If you were having a debate on the Blizz forums and someone wanted to hit you where it hurts we both know its gonna be the RealID. It's just the easiest scapegoat to abuse.

Also RealID will force me to avoid otherwise fun things in Blizzard games. There is no way Im gonna play my pinkpigtailed female gnome warrior named Executie with my real name attached. I've had lots of fun with the character but I'd rather have a serious roleplaying avatar if I had to use it with RealID.

You couldn't be more wrong.

Are you even playing WoW?!?

Nobody sees your Real ID but those you allow.

On the forums, the only person posting that you are playing a pink, pigtailed gnome (lame) named Executie is YOU.

So don't post on the forum. Problem solved.

I DON'T have a problem with the Real ID thing but they way they implemented is SO clumsy and it really makes me think it's just the tip of the iceberg. I think I might be done with all Blizzard games until this gets fully hashed out.

 

[Interfectum]

Fun fact: my dad knew more about my girlfriend than I did before I introduced them. All through the internet, all he had to go by was her name. He knew where she lived, where she worked, where she spent her holidays, her vacations and what kind of car she drove, all within 30 minutes of simply using Google.

Using Real ID on the blizzard forums will draw the perverts, creeps and cons out of the woodwork and into said forums. Now imagine them gaining access to above information. Would you really like people who should be behind bars to know all about your private life?

Uh, that's Google's fault, not Blizzard's.

 

[kodt]

Uh, that's Google's fault, not Blizzard's.

It is not Google's fault. They simply index information for searches.

The fault lies with whoever posted the information online in the first place.

 

[Naeblish]

Except that isnt the case. A basic example, your high school could post your graduating year info on their site without your consent. Once it hits the net and is cached its there forever.

Try a site like http://pipl.com/ and see what comes up.

True, you are dependent on what others post too, but if you aren't active with blogs and what not, it's hard to find info about someone. Most personal information that you can find on the web is put there by the individuals themselves.

 

[Interfectum]

It is not Google's fault. They simply index information for searches.

The fault lies with whoever posted the information online in the first place.

The fact that you can google anyone's name and their information is out there for all to see is Google's fault.

Everyone here is scared to post their REAL NAME because everything about you is so easily found on Google.

Most of the stuff I find about me was not posted with my consent, btw. All of my social networking accounts are locked tight.

But lets avoid the real problem here and just be scared of our real names. :lol

 

[Gravijah]

It is not Google's fault. They simply index information for searches.

The fault lies with whoever posted the information online in the first place.

It's not the fault of whoever posted it in the first place, the fault lies with whoever created the information pre-internet.

 

[Gwanatu T]

Please, please don't tell me anyone is actually shocked by this.

I'd love to say they didn't expect this, but this is Blizzard, some of the most brilliant minds on the industry; how could they not see this coming? Oh well, hopefully this makes it go away.

 

[kodt]

Except that isnt the case. A basic example, your high school could post your graduating year info on their site without your consent. Once it hits the net and is cached its there forever.

Try a site like http://pipl.com/ and see what comes up.

Those people search sites always lead to some site where you need to pay though. I guess it is possible that people are actually paying to get this information. But I always assumed that 4chan and such found everything out without spending money on a background check service or private investigator.

 

[Interfectum]

It's not the fault of whoever posted it in the first place, the fault lies with whoever created the information pre-internet.

It's Google's fault for making that information so easily gathered. You have absolutely no way to protect your identity from Google.

But lets hate on Blizzard because you can't post on an optional forum that shows your real name... which in turn can be Googled to see your life story.

 

[MrHicks]

sometimes i feel like i'm the only one in the world without a facebook account
its exactly for reasons like this lol

privacy is sacred no site or service is gonna seduce me in giving that up

 

[Gravijah]

It's Google's fault for making that information so easily gathered. You have absolutely no way to protect your identity from Google.

But lets hate on Blizzard because you can't post on an optional forum that shows your real name... which in turn can be Googled to see your life story.

This is not hating on Blizzard. This is people having legitimate gripes.

 

[ChronicleX]

sometimes i feel like i'm the only one in the world without a facebook account

Your not the only one, but we might be the only two :lol

Spoiler

It is kinda fun having a new reply in this topic every single refresh

 

[Dead Man]

For the first time in a while, PA nails it:

Accountability is crucial - you might recall our theory on the subject - and a fixed persona makes the laws of a microculture enforceable. But the idea that this persona must bear your actual name to lend it value (for you, or for others) is ludicrous.

There is no useful purpose to the poster achieved by this that cannot be achieved without giving up personal information.

And again, for those that seem to not understand some of the problems people have with this. Yes, most people have their name somewhere on the net, but it is not as easy to link that person to a comment on a board if you do not have their name to start with. And it doesn't even have to be worry about being harassed, how many prospective employers do you want to know that you play WOW?

I don't play WOW and have not much interest in Blizzards upcoming games (heresy, I know), so it will not effect me, but I completely understand people being against this. There is no reason for peoples names to be made public. If Blizz wanted to get real names, keep them on file, link everyone's posts under alts to that name on their database, and keep the name out of public views. But as it stands, you do not even need to be logged in to mine the forums for names, so why provide more info for those that would do so?

 

[Interfectum]

This is not hating on Blizzard. This is people having legitimate gripes.

This legitimate gripe is much bigger than Blizzard. There is a reason why people are so scared to show their real name to the world.

 

[RiskyChris]

It's Google's fault for making that information so easily gathered. You have absolutely no way to protect your identity from Google.

But lets hate on Blizzard because you can't post on an optional forum that shows your real name... which in turn can be Googled to see your life story.

Yes let's, because we're not all as narrowly naive as you.

 

[ChronicleX]

It's Google's fault for making that information so easily gathered. You have absolutely no way to protect your identity from Google.

Feeding google with forum names that are your identity is not exactly going to help the situation now is it? However I am more scared of 4Chan than anything google could ever do to me.

 

[kodt]

It's not the fault of whoever posted it in the first place, the fault lies with whoever created the information pre-internet.

What does that even mean? We have kids these days who weren't alive pre-internet.

Also :lol at people blaming Google. Google is a search engine and should do everything it can to index all freely available information on the internet.

If websites have private information they can prevent google from indexing it with proper use of a robots.txt file or by keeping sensitive information secure and password protected. Then google will be unable to index it.

 

[water_wendi]

Those people search sites always lead to some site where you need to pay though. I guess it is possible that people are actually paying to get this information. But I always assumed that 4chan and such found everything out without spending money on a background check service or private investigator.

i found out a ton of info including pictures of their house of a member just the other day without having to pay anything.

 

[Interfectum]

Yes let's, because we're not all as narrowly naive as you.

Personal attacks. :lol Worthless.

 

[zerokoolpsx]

:lol Who didn't see this coming?

 

[Gravijah]

What does that even mean? We have kids these days who weren't alive pre-internet.

I was being sarcastic and showing how far that stupid chain can go.

 

[Interfectum]

Feeding google with forum names that are your identity is not exactly going to help the situation now is it? However I am more scared of 4Chan than anything google could ever do to me.

That's a good point too. Also, I'm sure 99% of the information 4Chan gets about you is from Google... so Google is still the source of the problem.

 

[Meier]

Also RealID will force me to avoid otherwise fun things in Blizzard games. There is no way Im gonna play my pinkpigtailed female gnome warrior named Executie with my real name attached. I've had lots of fun with the character but I'd rather have a serious roleplaying avatar if I had to use it with RealID.

If it makes you feel any better, the thought is that you'd have to select 1 character to be your permanent in game person associated with your real name on the forums. Just don't pick Executie and then no one would know.

 

[water_wendi]

:lol Who didn't see this coming?

Activision Blizzard according to a USA Today interview in May

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/gamehunters/post/2010/05/blizzard-and-facebooks-friendly-social-networking-deal-launches-with-starcraft-ii-/1

Do you expect any push back from diehard Blizzard fans from the Facebook features?
We don't anticipate any.

 

[RiskyChris]

That's a good point too. Also, I'm sure 99% of the information 4Chan gets about you is from Google... so Google is still the source of the problem.

If the problem wouldn't have happened without someone posting on Blizzard's website the problem's source would be Blizzard you numpty.

 

[Quasar]

surely this is a violation of the data protection act in the UK? you can't give out personal information on anyone without their express permission..

Well you choose to use it or not, so it's no different to Facebook. And that seems to be legal in the uk.

 

[ChronicleX]

That's a good point too. Also, I'm sure 99% of the information 4Chan gets about you is from Google... so Google is still the source of the problem.

But google is a peaceful loving entity that gives hugs and cookies. Problem is that it is unjudgemental and loves everyone even the twatfaced scum of the cybermatrix.

In Short if Google is God, Facebook is the Devil then 4Chan is a recently escaped devil worshipping mental patient pretending to be religious to rape the nearest Alterboy.

 

[Fularu]

Because I guarantee: Bashiok was the beginning. For at least the first few weeks, if Blues are forced to reveal their real names, people WILL make their lives suck. Big time.

They real names are in yoru WoW manual

 

[panda21]

The fact that you can google anyone's name and their information is out there for all to see is Google's fault.

Everyone here is scared to post their REAL NAME because everything about you is so easily found on Google.

Most of the stuff I find about me was not posted with my consent, btw. All of my social networking accounts are locked tight.

But lets avoid the real problem here and just be scared of our real names. :lol

er like what?

it's not google's fault, its the fault of whoever posted the information. you might as well blame this on computers.

 

[Kusagari]

That's a good point too. Also, I'm sure 99% of the information 4Chan gets about you is from Google... so Google is still the source of the problem.

But Google isn't tying a name to a face/user/etc like Blizzard is by doing this. They're giving people a reason to find out your info on google.

 

[Saint of Killers]

This wouldn't be so bad if they removed friends of friends being able to see your real name.

Friends of friends = strangers, Blizzard!

I got /w'd to the point of wanting to log off from friends of a particular friend before Real ID came along, and now fear how much worse it's going to get. That and if I sign up to it I'll no longer be able to create a secret character to chill out with on some backwater server where nobody knows me, as anyone who has your Real ID will have ALL your characters appear on their Real ID f-list. Which are reasons enough why I won't be signing up to it, and so not only will be unable to chat to friends on different servers/factions to me, but I'll also end up looking like a miserable git.

Thanks Blizzard.

 

[kodt]

That's a good point too. Also, I'm sure 99% of the information 4Chan gets about you is from Google... so Google is still the source of the problem.

No it is not. Google didn't post this information on the internet, it just allows you to search for it. Even if you shut down Google to "fix" this problem, there are plenty of other search engines that will allow you to find the same information.

 

[Quasar]

Man, I wish you'd be right. But you're not.

In the context of the vast amount of private info that millions post to websites like social networks I do wonder how consequential it is.

 

[Hari Seldon]

I am simply going to never post on Blizzard forums. Problem solved. Also use fake names.

Edit: Actually I just logged into my battle.net account and realized I cannot delete my name. I also cannot delete the account. So I guess I'm making an entirely new Bnet account with Harry Ballsack as my name for SC2.

 

[water_wendi]

This wouldn't be so bad if they removed friends of friends being able to see your real name.

Friends of friends = strangers, Blizzard!

I got /w'd to the point of wanting to log off from friends of a particular friend before Real ID came along, and now fear how much worse it's going to get. That and if I sign up to it I'll no longer be able to create a secret character to chill out with on some backwater server as anyone who has your Real ID will have ALL your characters appear on their f-list. Which are reasons enough why I won't be signing up to it, and so not only will be unable to chat to friends on different servers/factions to me, but I'll also end up looking like a miserable git.

Thanks Blizzard.

That there was the reason i said no to Real ID first. Sometimes i want to log in and do stuff without my friends knowing. There are days i just want to chill and be left alone.

 

[ultron87]

You should be able to opt out of Friends of Friends seeing your name. If you can't do that then the system is extra terrible.

 

[Dead Man]

They real names are in yoru WoW manual

As meaningless names with no context. Now they are responsible for posts that may result in some evil shit troll looking like a fool. How do you not get the difference?

 

[neorej]

I am simply going to never post on Blizzard forums. Problem solved. Also use fake names.

I've posted there in my WoW-days, my real name was mandatory because of the Credit Card info.