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Bloodborne gameplay : The first 18 minutes
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DamagedInc
Member
Well that looks pretty awesome, there is so much atmosphere in it, hopefully it will click with me, I loved Demon Souls but not Dark Souls so much for some reason.
Mm yes that's the good clipping Souls I know. Smough and onion body, come to me.
To be fair, most games will have some level of clipping if you put the character in an uncommon posture posture like that. The majority of effort in adjusting animations/models to avoid clipping goes into common scenarios.
I like that they reward skill in future playthroughs. Dark Souls is probably the game with greatest replay value I've ever played.
DoubleTake
Member
Again. The big difference between this and Dark Souls 2 is that in the latter the levels are very linear and few loop back on themselves in any meaningful manner. Bloodborne doesnt seem to have this problem.
Yes it may have the same philosophy in design as DS2 but the execution(so far) seems much better and more thought out. Already in that 20 minute vid I saw 4-5 different ways you could go that werent available in the Alpha, which I already thought had pretty good level design, something DS2 missed.
JudgmentJay
Member
There's nothing to indicate that Bloodborne's level design is like Dark Souls 2's. If anything, it looks much more like Dark Souls 1 in that it twists in on itself and there are multiple shortcuts around the same area.
No. Like I said, if we base things off the alpha, it's dark souls 1 + having the lord vessel at the beginning + firelink shrine being somewhere up in the sky.
Imru al-Qays
Banned
Why would anyone think they could handle the Catacombs or New Londo at the beginning of Dark Souls? I just don't get this complaint. Anyone capable of critical thought will get wrecked by the skeletons or the ghosts and easily dispatch the hollows and be like hmmm I guess I'm supposed to be killing these hollows.
th4tguy
Member
The frame rate seems better than the previous videos but there is some horrible judder going on. It's obvious there is still work to be done on performance.
Jimmyfenix
Member
aye like 3 times
Dark Souls 2 was a bit of a letdown in how disconnected the earlier levels were from each other. Dark Souls 1 had this wonderful "tangle" of areas that all linked up to each other in the middle/beginning of the game, with only the later areas being isolated. Hopefully Bloodborne brings that back.
Imru’ al-Qays;150277223 said:
Well, if you know what you're doing you can duck into New Londo
for a Firekeeper Soul, or a shortcut through Valley of Drakes to Darkroot Basin or Blighttown.
But yeah, those are things beginnings probably wouldn't discover on their own.
They use it at one point to execute a gunparry and also to annoy the rifleman (who they then run away from because the rifleman is scary).
Unrelated - kill what killed you to get your soul back:
Dark2 is like... a tree root. Theres a starting point and quicklly it starts to branch in multiple directions, but they dont go back to the strating point.
SweetJohnnyCage
Member
They use it at one point to execute a gunparry and also to annoy the rifleman (who they then run away from because the rifleman is scary).
Unrelated - kill what killed you to get your soul back:
Just a heads up for the riflemen, you can hear the click of the trigger before the bullet comes close to you if you're at range. So just keep an ear out. The bullet goes in a straight line, it's not like the homing arrows from Dark Souls.
If it's anything like Demon's Souls, you can kill the first boss for bonus rewards, but then die anyway.
RoadHazard
Gold Member
Ok then, sounds good! Still not sure about being able to warp all over the place right from the get go, but my fears have mostly been alleviated.
Jimmyfenix
Member
lolololol
I realise that I am and will be in the minority here, but the more I see of this game, the more I'm conflicted about it.
One the one hand it does in most ways look like a Souls game, with stronger ties to Demon's and Dark Souls 1 going by the sounds and animations, and that by itself should be enough to get pumped for it.
On the other hand, I'm not getting pumped yet because this game has made me realise something: for me, the past Souls games were so enjoyable because of how the semi-realistic medieval dark fantasy setting framed the tactical combat and exploration. This newVictorian Elizabethan setting for some reason isn't as appealing to me (yet), at least not in a Souls-type game where one needs to feel as if the world is harbouring secrets and lore everywhere.
I am also not sure what to make of the weapons showns so far. I tend to like simple, realistic looking weapons like swords and daggers (not counting the larger, over-the-top looking ones in the Souls games, which I never really used either) and don't really know if I like the focus here shifting to mechanical, crude looking ones. Having the guns as defensive weapons that do little damage also don't make much sense I feel, and I had preferred the return of shields or some kind of more logical long distance, lower damage weapon like a whip or crossbow to stun enemies (speaking of the enemies: is it just me or are others also feeling mixed about the basic enemies now being mostly human looking and sounding hunters instead of lumbering zombies? It feels a bit weird going around and killing them, though I suppose that will be explained in the story to some degree).
Both the environments, character outfits and weapons now have a - for lack of a better term - over-designed look to them, almost as if Miyazaki and his team this time are consciously trying to give us cool looking stuff (to kills things with) instead of just doing their thing creating more or less subtle designs that end up being cool and impressive.
Sigh, quite a conundrum for me, this game. I do feel it is important for the team to try and go beyond the Souls (and King's Field) games, but maybe they've lost some key parts of that unique atmosphere and experience along the way at this point by going to a more modern setting with more mechanical designs? I'll remain hopeful that everything will click for me eventually when I actually get to play it though.
Edit: After some more thought and after reading the rest of this thread, I must say I am warming up to the game's tone, setting and combat a bit more. Maybe I just have to try and embrace the changes while trusting Miyazaki to not completely abandon the core experiences that made the Souls games click with me. Also, the benefit of this new setting apart from allowing everything to feel fresh, is that we now have a game with more direct aesthetic links to the classic Castlevania games, which in my opinion is fitting since the gamepay and pace of those games already seemed to be a big inspiration for Miyazaki's works.
One the one hand it does in most ways look like a Souls game, with stronger ties to Demon's and Dark Souls 1 going by the sounds and animations, and that by itself should be enough to get pumped for it.
On the other hand, I'm not getting pumped yet because this game has made me realise something: for me, the past Souls games were so enjoyable because of how the semi-realistic medieval dark fantasy setting framed the tactical combat and exploration. This new
I am also not sure what to make of the weapons showns so far. I tend to like simple, realistic looking weapons like swords and daggers (not counting the larger, over-the-top looking ones in the Souls games, which I never really used either) and don't really know if I like the focus here shifting to mechanical, crude looking ones. Having the guns as defensive weapons that do little damage also don't make much sense I feel, and I had preferred the return of shields or some kind of more logical long distance, lower damage weapon like a whip or crossbow to stun enemies (speaking of the enemies: is it just me or are others also feeling mixed about the basic enemies now being mostly human looking and sounding hunters instead of lumbering zombies? It feels a bit weird going around and killing them, though I suppose that will be explained in the story to some degree).
Both the environments, character outfits and weapons now have a - for lack of a better term - over-designed look to them, almost as if Miyazaki and his team this time are consciously trying to give us cool looking stuff (to kills things with) instead of just doing their thing creating more or less subtle designs that end up being cool and impressive.
Sigh, quite a conundrum for me, this game. I do feel it is important for the team to try and go beyond the Souls (and King's Field) games, but maybe they've lost some key parts of that unique atmosphere and experience along the way at this point by going to a more modern setting with more mechanical designs? I'll remain hopeful that everything will click for me eventually when I actually get to play it though.
Edit: After some more thought and after reading the rest of this thread, I must say I am warming up to the game's tone, setting and combat a bit more. Maybe I just have to try and embrace the changes while trusting Miyazaki to not completely abandon the core experiences that made the Souls games click with me. Also, the benefit of this new setting apart from allowing everything to feel fresh, is that we now have a game with more direct aesthetic links to the classic Castlevania games, which in my opinion is fitting since the gamepay and pace of those games already seemed to be a big inspiration for Miyazaki's works.
Imru’ al-Qays;150277223 said:
Because DkS1 is clearly, unambiguously different in that regard from both Demon's Souls and Dark Souls 2? You can do Tower of Latria or the the fourth zone first if you want. You can do Heide's first if you want. Dark Souls 1 stands out as having the most gating that is not skill-based, unlike the rest of the "series".
It is really goddamn condescending and arrogant to say "anyone capable of critical thought", especially in a case where it defies the logic and flow of other games in the same series.
Not gonna happen man. Don't even hope .
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
Instinct. And that's kinda the point.
It has the same chance of being PC ported as Demon's Souls.
GwyndolinCinder
Member
Find it incredibly weird that there are no npcs at the starting hub doing repairs etc, my guess would be that this is either not the final game or this isnt the hub the whole game
Not even a million to one.
Jimmyfenix
Member
lol
The only way to play this is to get a PS4
On topic of the game. The music hnngggggggg
So happy they cut down the number of stats. Alo klooks like they renamed them to something useful
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
I guess a rolled up left sleeve was a European thing at some point.
SweetJohnnyCage
Member
It'll be like every other Souls game where the hub gets populated by finding NPCs in the world, I'm sure. The Nexus was populated because they dedicated NPCs to inventory management due to item weights. Firelink Shrine only had the Crestfallen Warrior in the beginning, and DKS2 only had the Herald, the one vendor in the big house, and the Crestfallen Warrior. The rest showed up after finding them.
Jimmyfenix
Member
As i said in the last thread. Yurt should come back
He would fit this universe
He would fit this universe
BouncyFrag
Member
What happens to the right hand weapon here? Is it unequipped just before the baddie is impaled?
It has a lot of aliasing. More than other games. It is a video game after all, so I'll be judging the way it looks.
super-famicom
Member
I'm not going to watch the video, on a media blackout until I receive the game in the mail.
One question: does the video show the character creation? That I wouldn't mind seeing.
One question: does the video show the character creation? That I wouldn't mind seeing.
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
Nope!
I don't know why this single image already has me super hyped.
hotnheavyload
Banned
As i said in the last thread. Yurt should come back
He would fit this universe
I think Marvelous Chester should make an appearance. He can travel through time after all.
Nope. There was a tweet stating it was skipped so they could share more info on it later in the month.