The saw spear has good arcane scaling. Slapping bolt or fire gems on it does wonders.
-
Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.
Bloodborne: The Old Hunters |OT| Old Hunters. New Tricks, Bells & Whistles.
- Thread starter Robot Pants
- Start date
Hey guys, on my 2nd play through after taking a long break to play Old Hunters. Seems like I'm going with quality build again without using Ludwig GS this time - felt cheap w/ it breezing through bosses. Currently using saw clever and loving it, is there any other weapon like it in the new DLC? Also, were new armors added?
Yeah, but usually when I think arcane I think of something like the Burial Blade or the Tonitrus.
I wouldn't be surprised if the majority of the people who played BB thought that way. Most people will ask 'Why does this weapon have arcane scaling when it doesn't deal any arcane atk?'. You're average Joe wouldn't realize that slapping on a fire/bolt/arcane gem on a weapon with pure physical attack will remove their str/skill scaling and change it to arcane scaling. However, the threaded cane and the saw spear benefit the most from being an arcane weapon due to their scaling.
Morrigan Stark
Arrogant Smirk
Also you can't really "main" the Burial Blade for a first arcane playthrough since you get it so late... 
Tonitrus is a good choice though. I used a fire saw spear and Tonitrus myself, until I got the Moonlight sword of course.
Tonitrus is a good choice though. I used a fire saw spear and Tonitrus myself, until I got the Moonlight sword of course.^ Planning ahead! I remember a someone said they found an alt. version of it in the chalice before even fighting the boss for it.
Oh, I thought Ludwig's Holy Blade had the best arcane among buffable weapons.
Oh, I thought Ludwig's Holy Blade had the best arcane among buffable weapons.
What's the motivation for going beyond NG++? I feel like you're better off starting a new character if you want to just try a different build (assuming people go beyond NG++ to level up other stats).
Otherwise: are people just looking for added challenge?
On a related note: a few steps closer to that plat on my STR/ARC build. Just need to run the Ihyl dungeon and Messenger's Gift and before tackling G and MP and going into NG+.
Otherwise: are people just looking for added challenge?
On a related note: a few steps closer to that plat on my STR/ARC build. Just need to run the Ihyl dungeon and Messenger's Gift and before tackling G and MP and going into NG+.
It does but its overall dps is lower because it has a B/B str and skill scaling and you get higher DPS with a quality build.
Bl@de
Member
Sounds interesting. Especially want to try the Moonlight Sword. I guess I'll go with Str/Arc.
Thank you.
Well,you if you murder the crow, which is what I did in my first playthrough.Also you can't really "main" the Burial Blade for a first arcane playthrough since you get it so late...
In my last playthough I also used Logarius' Wheel as my main weapon.
Chaos2Frozen
Member
I find that to cover most of the unique weapons, you'll need two main characters, one STR/ARC and the other would be SKL/BLT
achromicia
Member
I always stayed in close. In fact my final tactic was to beat her around the sides and if I could glitch into her body, stay there as long as possible. When close to her second stage I'd then focus on her head and visceral as much as possible to avoid the stage's attacks.
KharmaPolice
Member
That would be the Blades of Mercy. The Burial Blade is only available after defeating
Gherman
A few reasons. Shared with other NG+ modes.
1. Challenge is one, higher NG+ games can only be matched by handicapped earlier runs.
2. Variety, you get different health and damage behavior. Keeps SP fresher.
Audioboxer
Member
Soo many games to play and I keep playing Bloodborne. FML.
Have skill and strength at 25 a piece on this new quality build. Think I'll just take one of them to 50, but which one... decisions.
Have skill and strength at 25 a piece on this new quality build. Think I'll just take one of them to 50, but which one... decisions.
Just finished the DLC last night on a new str/arc build. In the end I think it would have been fine to use my old character on NG+++, but once I got rolling I was just having a great time in the base game again and couldn't help doing all the areas again. Optional boss went down like a chump, but OoK took so long, so many deaths... brutal, just brutal. I was staring to think he'd never go down. I think I'll come back in a few months and finish on my old character and see what the experience is like with faster weapons.
I just have to say though, gatling gun is definitely not the best use of QS bullets but it's way too much fun. Fully upgraded, the damage output is fine, but a definite high point has been watching an invader just run when they saw the bullet stream start flying.
I just have to say though, gatling gun is definitely not the best use of QS bullets but it's way too much fun. Fully upgraded, the damage output is fine, but a definite high point has been watching an invader just run when they saw the bullet stream start flying.
Cool.
At Ihyl Chalice's Layer 1 boss and the P.D. is kicking my ass. Holy shit. I'm getting OoK vibes.
My bad, you are right.
Well, if you going for the true ending you can at least use it to kill the optional and the DLC bosses with it.
You can buy Blood Rock with 60 insight. I would advice you to save insight for that.
About how many weapons can you get to +9 in a playthrough? I have BOM at 9, Cane and Evelyn at 7.
If you have the DLC, I'd say 4.
Without the DLC it is probably 2-3 weapons. You get more chunks and rocks from Chalices so you can get more weapons to +9.
Once you hit lvl65 and have +9 weapon with decent gems. Maybe even earlier than that. So if you have access to UCW and Mensis you should be starting the DLC.
Audioboxer
Member
Yup, the dash forward is great for PVE. Very easy to pick it up on a "suicide run" as soon as you get access to the DLC.
On an unrelated note the bucket helmet pairs well with the executioners set \m/ As boring as ludwigs sword may be, I can't deny it absolutely wrecks on a quality build.
DamagedInc
Member
Lawrence
SkylineRKR
Member
One shot Loran Darkbeast. I wasn't even properly decked out, mostly Eye Runes. With Anti clockwise I could've wailed for longer. He's harmless if you keep on the offensive, which goes for a lot of bosses, which is good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7akQ0fLDf5M
But then again, perhaps I wouldn't have gotten that nice Blood Rock without Eye runes... which is a first for me after a boss. Moonlight sword +10 now, improving Arcane stat lately.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7akQ0fLDf5M
But then again, perhaps I wouldn't have gotten that nice Blood Rock without Eye runes... which is a first for me after a boss. Moonlight sword +10 now, improving Arcane stat lately.
Took me 57 tries. Either they've nerfed him a bit, he's just way harder with a saw cleaver than LHB, or I wasn't gemmed properly back then...
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NSu9lzAy95w
SkylineRKR
Member
I think 2 handed and fire paper help. He got stunned fairly quickly. Its like Paarl and VA, they can dominate you unless you really hit hard. When he's not charged with bolt, keep on him.
JadedWriter
Member
Fuck this god damn place!!!!
Yeah, I think Loran Darkbeast's difficulty is wildly affected by weapon choice. He's so fast and aggressive compared to the main game Darkbeast, it's hard to land more than one hit at a time and as such stunning him with a saw cleaver is really tough.
I did the whole game, chalices and DLC, with the saw cleaver as my main... Did a second run with the cane up to The One Reborn and now I'm juggling that with an arcane focused run. Will be pretty interesting to see which bosses are suddenly challenging or easy compared to my first run.
Mobile Suit Gooch
Grundle: The Awakening
I finally got the Rakuyo from those son's of bitches. +8 btw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTSgKzxwPUs
So this is the most fun I have had with this fight. Usually I use a melee and just visceral the shadows to death; minus the fireballer.
+4 vials
+3 QS on Vic
+15% stamina
It's a fun bowblade build. Basically you use vials like currency with blood sac. Then it is all about using the bow. You visceral as well to maintain stock. Stock stock stock.
Very fun, fresh compared to beating these bosses the same way over and over. Time consuming though.
So this is the most fun I have had with this fight. Usually I use a melee and just visceral the shadows to death; minus the fireballer.
+4 vials
+3 QS on Vic
+15% stamina
It's a fun bowblade build. Basically you use vials like currency with blood sac. Then it is all about using the bow. You visceral as well to maintain stock. Stock stock stock.
Very fun, fresh compared to beating these bosses the same way over and over. Time consuming though.
SkylineRKR
Member
Got platinum theme in the mail 3 days after I checked to receive promotion stuff. Nice.
I like gestures like this, I hope Dark Souls 3 Plat is doable and has something like it too.
I like gestures like this, I hope Dark Souls 3 Plat is doable and has something like it too.
wild wild rice
Member
Thinking about getting this DLC and starting a new build, looking for input.
Last time I was more of a dodge and backstab type build, almost never parried. What's good as far as starting class/weapons if I want to focus on parrying the shit out of everything?
Last time I was more of a dodge and backstab type build, almost never parried. What's good as far as starting class/weapons if I want to focus on parrying the shit out of everything?
darkslayer101
Member
with my Chikage 50 BLT 2H, went down in a min. Trick is to do max damage when he tries to reclaim his electricity.
SkylineRKR
Member
Bloodtinge + Skill probably. Skill scales with Visceral Attacks unless I'm mistaken. Bloodtinge makes your gun stronger. I found regular pistol easiest to parry with, after that, Evelyn.
So for runes I'd go with Visceral attack buff, QS bullets back on hit and extra bullets.
Just read the fextralife wiki when you get a weird item and would like to know more. I will sometimes read an NPC page if I have interacted with them the first time or would like to know where I will find them next, but I only read their questline to the current point and no further. Do not look up areas, who people are that you have not encountered, or where to find items. This is the fun of the game. Only research what you know so far. You can always explore open areas and you won't botch NPC questlines so long as you keep them alive, and like I said, just look up the next place you will find them to keep their story going.
GreyOcelot
Member
I really need to start doing this. Of course i killed Adeline because i thought giving one piece of brain or whatever was all i had to do with her. In DS2 I killed 1 npc total and of course it was one of the dudes you need to join a covenant and fight an additional boss
Relaxed Muscle
Member
wild wild rice
Member
Cool, I'll check this out.
usp84
Member
Someone should shop BB character in this gif:
So i am currently watching The Flash Season 1 and i cant believe what i am seeing!
Orochinagis
Member
Fuck this god damn place!!!!
You know, I always saw them as whales, not sharks