This was linked from the Guardian.
http://www.itv.com/news/2016-07-13/...n-foreign-secretary-united-states-of-america/
http://www.itv.com/news/2016-07-13/...n-foreign-secretary-united-states-of-america/
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Boris Johnson made foreign secretary by Theresa May
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EdwardTivrusky
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I live here and i've stopped taking us seriously any more too. We must look like some kind of Circus to the rest of the world now at least that's how i feel about us. I wonder if we'll paint stripes on the Houses of Parliament?
Is there a chance this is a genius political move by Theresa May? Boris probably has the most support in the Conservative party and therefore is the biggest threat to her premiership. By making him foreign secretary she is giving him a position of power to keep the Johnsonites happy but giving him a role he is clearly I'll prepared to do in any competent fashion thus giving his supporters to her. First big fucked he gets canned and she looks like a good decisive prime minister who isn't scared to shy away from the hard decisions.
If he doesn't fuck up and miraculously does a good job, she wins because it was her idea to give him that position.
If he doesn't fuck up and miraculously does a good job, she wins because it was her idea to give him that position.
And on the second part, the funny buffoon mask will be destroyed. Yeah, it's great for her, but the country is fucked more due to it.
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With fuck ups like this and Brexit, would that be enough to fuck the Torries in the long term? Though Labor party is shit right now.
I mean it's pretty clear at this point he thought they would lose a hard fought battle and he would come out smelling of roses. Political games which are gambled with the future of our children. He's a giant asshat but I agree he is an intelligent one. He just has some seriously questionable morals.
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Conservative voters rarely leave the ship. As a matter of fact, they don't exercise their right to vote; they clock in.
This is a constant through the Western world. Political disarray and second thoughts are leftist things.
Oh absolutely, there is no denying that. Any move that is made for political reasons and not because he's the best man for the job is likely to be bad for the general public, I just hope he fucks up fast and small so it can be like taking a horrible ugly little plaster off. Quick but a wee bit sore b
I just had an epiphany about the UK.
British Lifestyle is totaly focused on upper class. What with the monarchy, House of Lords, public schools, the clubs, country, hunting, etc. Everybody seems to be hell bound on being or at least mingling with the aristocrats that have been ruling this country forever. That's very different from the US, Germany or France I'd imagine.
Now, in most of the continent an aristocrat is an aristocrat. In Germany and France for example it's part of the name. A count is a count and his children are all counts and comtesses. In Britain however the title is bound to the estate. So you have one earl and the rest of the family is mr and ms whatshername. So you have this gentry that isn't defined by their titles but by manners, lifestyle and money. Hence this obscene tolerance or even celebration of overly eccentric, I don't have to take anything seriously clowns in British culture. Like there is nothing to gain from acting like an aristocrat in Germany because everybody knows you aren't one. In the UK it has everything to do with putting you in a certain inbetween social class.
Did I get it UK GAF?
British Lifestyle is totaly focused on upper class. What with the monarchy, House of Lords, public schools, the clubs, country, hunting, etc. Everybody seems to be hell bound on being or at least mingling with the aristocrats that have been ruling this country forever. That's very different from the US, Germany or France I'd imagine.
Now, in most of the continent an aristocrat is an aristocrat. In Germany and France for example it's part of the name. A count is a count and his children are all counts and comtesses. In Britain however the title is bound to the estate. So you have one earl and the rest of the family is mr and ms whatshername. So you have this gentry that isn't defined by their titles but by manners, lifestyle and money. Hence this obscene tolerance or even celebration of overly eccentric, I don't have to take anything seriously clowns in British culture. Like there is nothing to gain from acting like an aristocrat in Germany because everybody knows you aren't one. In the UK it has everything to do with putting you in a certain inbetween social class.
Did I get it UK GAF?
TatteredHat
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Front of the queue, first out the door.
Nah not really. The general public don't fawn over the aristocracy as described, however they have all the money and to run a successful political campaign you need money therefore the aristocrats end up in power and we have to vote which one we think is less of a twat. I have no idea who was up against Boris in hos constituency but based on the evidence it must have been something utterly ridiculous or completely inane so folks voted for the buffoon.
Also I have learned that you can never tell wtf is going on on English voters heads.
So you think a guy who bets everything (including own country's future) on one scenario for an individual political gain without even considering the other possible outcome is an intelligent one?
Definition of intelligence (one of them) said:
It doesn't mean that he's stupid. But he seems a bit short-sighted. (like with all the insults thrown around the world without thinking he will need to face that on the long term if he wants to have a successful political career)
This seems to be the truth unfortunately. We are obviously seeing the most extreme form of this in the UK at the moment, but it seem to be always present with what passes for the left.
Yeah, I guess. It's not like other people don't vote for idiots either.
Jezbollah
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If it makes you feel better, by the time you have the means to leave, Boris would have probably fucked up and been sacked
Newtype-001
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Atleast we'll continue to export a great quantity of cake from Walthamstow.
That would make me feel better, although Boris is ruthless and ambitious and might not do anything stupid enough to get sacked. Unfortunately he is the cherry on top of the shitcake that is UK politics right now - Brexit, the Tories looking stronger than ever and Labour in civil war are all completely bumming me out.If it makes you feel better, by the time you have the means to leave, Boris would have probably fucked up and been sacked
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The only positive I can find in this whole mess is that opportunist bag of shit Gove was just sacked.
Sounds like a Bond villain.
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We have reached parody levels now.
Just call him Lord of the Cunts
EdwardTivrusky
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I might pretend i'm an immigrant so i can get deported somewhere nicer.
fabricated backlash
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Nah, as long as they keep promising the return to the good old days* they'll be fine.
*definition may vary, adjust to respective birthyear and subtract 50 IQ points.
Even more hilarious he was sacked as a journalist for making up quotes but fucking idiots still trust him.
"Hahahs luk at foooney posh man, hav pint wit him!"
Royal_Phalanx
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At this point I'm considering moving to Ireland just for the EU citizenship, then go elsewhere. Seems easier than whatever restrictive system will exist without freedom of movement.
Thinking bout doing that until we get away from the rest of the uk hopefully.
Royal_Phalanx
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My dream for an independent Scotland is that it becomes solidly social democratic and gains closer ties with Scandinavia as a result. And stays in the EU. I honestly don't give a damn anymore if the UK disintegrates in the next 10 years. Would be a great sense of irony though, instead of Brexit making the UK 'great again' it breaks it up instead. I want out from a lot of the increasingly right wing English electorate.
snoopeasystreet
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As this point Britain is trying to out Black Mirror Black Mirror.
EdwardTivrusky
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I'd love the UK to stay together but as the UK seems to have an appetite for destruction and comedy at the moment i've given up caring about the place. If i was younger i'd definitely be looking at leaving but i'm older so i don't think i have any chance of escaping
Royal_Phalanx
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I'd love the UK to stay together but as the UK seems to have an appetite for destruction and comedy at the moment i've given up caring about the place. If i was younger i'd definitely be looking at leaving but i'm older so i don't think i have any chance of escaping
You have my sympathy. This debacle really motivates me to do well in my masters' so I can leave this country. Potential destinations: Canada, Germany,Sweden, Norway.
Because most people don't like their country being (even more of) a laughing stock? Because he is already well known abroad for his comments about different countries or races? Because a vile cunt is now the face of relations with those countries? Because he'll likely cause more of a mess rather than clean it up?
Trickster
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If I put two turds on your table. Would you want to keep one of them just because the other one was even more smelly?
PJV3
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I'm not hysterical but he's hated in Europe when the French foreign minister calls him a liar there is a problem.
And he is an actual liar, sacked for it kind of liar.
OriginalThinking
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Clever. She's given all the most "Brexit" related posts to leading brexiteers (aside from Gove). Meaning she can blame them when they inevitably fuck up and the right wing backbenchers will have to suck it up. There's definitely some insulation she's doing here
HazySaiyan
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Because this bumbling oaf with a nasty, bigoted streak is going to be representing us on the world stage. The guy doesn't know how to keep his mouth shut and will probably end up pissing off one of our allies.
OriginalThinking
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Are you talking about the general election?
That's like saying you're glad Trump wins the presidency because now he has to own all his mistakes.
I was much happier when Boris was consigned to the political doldrums as a failure.
We face the consequences of those actions
Our country requires in the next 2-4years us negotiating with foreign bodies and this absolute fucking asshat is Foreign Minister.
Hysteria is, for once, rational
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