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CBO Releases AHCA Score: Details Coming In

Shoeless

Member
Is it safe to assume that Trump supporters are totally okay with this and even celebrating another great victory that will stick it to immigrants and minorities?
 

Ernest

Banned
Don't worry guys.

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Trickle will come down to you any day now and you'll have no problem paying for your healthcare.

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And to quote someone else; "ISIS wishes it could kill as many children as the GOP!"
 
Attack the CBO because the CBO didn't predict what colossal assholes the GOP would be about ACA implementation.

It annoys me to no end that reporters never bring that up in the briefings.

The CBO was right, though. It called the number of uninsured dropping almost to a T.

The thing is they just missed what form of insurance would be bought. but the end result was the same.
 

Shoeless

Member
When in reality they're really sticking it to themselves.

MAGA right?

I'm guessing that even if they have a child unable to get proper medical care and is dying because of it, they're holding that kid's hand and saying, "Don't worry, you're dying for a good cause. Think of all the colored people that have it worse. You're a real American, and you dying is worth it as long as ethnic people suffer."
 
12 billion a year in savings leaves 20 million uninsured? Fucking Christ, lol.
Nah. You're actually being far too generous. It works out to ~$500 per person per year. It could be ~5x that if they scrapped the tax cuts for the wealthy, but that would defeat the entire purpose of the bill.
 

royalan

Member
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THIS is why we don't get comfortable.

This is the headline I'll expect to see from irresponsible media outlets.

It happened with the last AHCA revision that the House ended up passing. You release a big turd, the media pans it. You follow up with a slightly smaller turd, and the media focuses on the "improvement."
 

Ernest

Banned
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THIS is why we don't get comfortable.

This is the headline I'll expect to see from irresponsible media outlets.

It happened with the last AHCA revision that the House ended up passing. You release a big turd, the media pans it. You follow up with a slightly smaller turd, and the media focuses on the "improvement."
To be fair, they got raked over the coals immediately for that headline and followed it up with a more accurate one:

https://twitter.com/USATODAY/status/867497427393290240

"CBO: House Obamacare repeal will increase uninsured by 23 million"
 
To be fair, they got raked over the coals immediately for that headline and followed it up with a more accurate one:

https://twitter.com/USATODAY/status/867497427393290240

"CBO: House Obamacare repeal will increase uninsured by 23 million"
Good that people didn't let me hem slide with that, but the point is that we shouldn't have to baby them like that in the first place. How desperate the media is to give the administration any type of win and hold them to the lowest possible standards is just sad. It's good that they adjusted it, but a headline like that shouldn't have happened in the first place.
 
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THIS is why we don't get comfortable.

This is the headline I'll expect to see from irresponsible media outlets.

It happened with the last AHCA revision that the House ended up passing. You release a big turd, the media pans it. You follow up with a slightly smaller turd, and the media focuses on the "improvement."

USA Today barely counts as media lol, and that headline was retracted
 

rokkerkory

Member
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THIS is why we don't get comfortable.

This is the headline I'll expect to see from irresponsible media outlets.

It happened with the last AHCA revision that the House ended up passing. You release a big turd, the media pans it. You follow up with a slightly smaller turd, and the media focuses on the "improvement."

HAHA what the heck
 

Majine

Banned
Their angle is a bit weird to explain. In a nutshell hardcore conservatives don't believe the government should have anything to do with healthcare. It shouldn't be regulated, and we shouldn't pay out shit. They don't believe it. Now, that philosophy isn't terribly popular, so they don't go out and campaign on that. They go out and campaign that Obamacare sucked and should be repealed. They then blamed what was a blunted premiums rising on Obamacare and people still want better healthcare. They promised they could do better by repealing it.

The problem is that Republicans overpromised. Obamacare basically is the conservative answer to the fact that people were dying without healthcare and being denied due to pre-existing conditions. They took a hard line against it because if they didn't then Obama would be hailed as a savior of healthcare. Now they're stuck between a rock and a hard place because any changes for the better will be much more liberal and any changes for the worse will literally kill people.

I was under the assumption that republicans didn't like the idea of health insurance altogether out of sheer selfishness, because they have the idea that everyone is self-made and paying for someone elses healthcare detracts from that and is the start of a socialist takeover.

How far from the truth am I?
 

GK86

Homeland Security Fail
Bill de Blasio @NYCMayor

Why are Republican leaders trying to take away health care from New Yorkers? Simple: they want to line the pockets of the wealthy.
 
As a dirty foreigner, what is their angle on this one? That wealthy deserve better because they made it? Fuck poor people?
People shouldn't be mandated to pay for health care; savings made by not spending public money on health care will allow for tax cuts that spur growth; a growing economy will allow everyone to pay for health care if they choose they to.

I mean, it's insane voodoo economics that's been repeatedly discredited over the past few decades, but that won't stop them, since their ideology is already a weird rich-person fever dream anyway.
 

IrishNinja

Member
Pretty sure this would not have passed the House if the score came out before the vote. Laughable. Paul Ryan, ladies and gentlemen.

And all those House members are in that giant photo op with Trump at the WH. Expect to see that a lot in ads leading up to next November.

exactly this
hope that skunky beer was worth it, that photo's not gonna age well for everyone involved
 
Bill de Blasio @NYCMayor

Why are Republican leaders trying to take away health care from New Yorkers? Simple: they want to line the pockets of the wealthy.
And they're barely even trying to hide it at all, since the vast majority of the savings from it are immediately going into tax cuts for themselves. Literal cartoon villains.
 

shiba5

Member
Unless I'm mistaken that's him coming out AGAINST the AHCA. He's saying waiting for this manufactured collapse of Obamacare is looking like the way to go since their replacement plans are all abject failures.

They are actively sabotaging the ACA so I don't see how it's any better.
 
Surely this isnt passing right?
It might. Right now it's not revenue neutral, so it can't pass with a simple majority budget resolution vote. But it wouldn't take a lot of tweaks to get it there. If the Senate manages to adjust it enough to clear, I'd expect the House to pass the revised bill without appreciable debate.
 

shiba5

Member
7 years of bitching about the ACA, 50 some attempts to repeal it, no attempts to improve it, active sabotage to cause it to collapse, and they think they're going to pin this on Democrats.
Fuck off with that.
 
This is what passed the House. They rushed it through so they could vote before they knew the effects.

It's DOA in the Senate. They're working on another version.

And THAT version would have to go back to the House. No way the crazy FC would pass it, not with the power they know they have after getting the AHCA passed.
 
This is what passed the House. They rushed it through so they could vote before they knew the effects.

It's DOA in the Senate. They're working on another version.

As much as i'd love to see the GOP get steam rolled in the mid terms, i dont want to see thousands of american die in order for that to happen.
 
It might. Right now it's not revenue neutral, so it can't pass with a simple majority budget resolution vote. But it wouldn't take a lot of tweaks to get it there. If the Senate manages to adjust it enough to clear, I'd expect the House to pass the revised bill without appreciable debate.

They can pass this through reconciliation. They only need 50 votes in the Senate.
 
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