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[DangerStepp]

Some folks are being a bit harsh on Cliffy for his opinion (which is a good talking point, but calling him out for the ultra-violence/quality of Gears is immaterial here).

I think he's just trying to say that the game's reputation for crude humor precedes itself and overshadows the amazing things that make it so much more.

It really is a fantastic game that revels it its own crazy world and that's why we love it.

 

[Zaventem]

Wasn't one of the GTA4 AddOns "that game with the penis"?

It really wasn't.People discussed it but for the most part the add on talked a lot about what people thought GTA stand alone could of been.In fact you rarely see male frontal nudity in games/movies compared to the amount of women you see with their tops off and that "unusualness" is what caused the slight discussion.

 

[DjRoomba]

Why do we care what this douchenozzle says?
Should we make a thread of what McG suggests Tarantino should have done in Django Unchained?

 

[EGM1966]

I'd rather my wife walked in on me playing an obviously daft game with purple dildos than a game where I chainsaw the natives in half while chanting "too ugly to live".

Also, being too similar is rarely the best way to beat an established brand - you need to be similar but sufficiently different I thought was the accepted wisdom.

 

[Mxrz]

How exactly is this on the developers or on the game itself? Why did he all of a sudden decide to have something vocal to say about this franchise when the third game has been out for almost two years and the fate of the fourth is up in the air (is it?).

Yeah, this bothered me too. We're all kind of on edge about what's going to happen. Then Cliffy, a pretty important dude, comes out and voices our worst fear. Ick.

 

[OrbitingCow]

Why do we care what this douchenozzle says?
Should we make a thread of what McG suggests Tarantino should have done in Django Unchained?

Idea! (goes back to gas-powered dildoing himself)

 

[HueyFreeman]

Some folks are being a bit harsh on Cliffy for his opinion (which is a good talking point, but calling him out for the ultra-violence/quality of Gears is immaterial here).

I think he's just trying to say that the game's reputation for crude humor precedes itself and overshadows the amazing things that make it so much more.

It really is a fantastic game that revels it its own crazy world and that's why we love it.

Yeah this is how I take it. I think he's just trying to say it doesn't need the gimmicks anymore, that it can fully stand on it's own as an IP. I think this thread is definitely illustrating that there's a "pro-dildo" contingent though.

 

[outunderthestars]

Some folks are being a bit harsh on Cliffy for his opinion (which is a good talking point, but calling him out for the ultra-violence/quality of Gears is immaterial here).

I think he's just trying to say that the game's reputation for crude humor precedes itself and overshadows the amazing things that make it so much more.

It really is a fantastic game that revels it its own crazy world and that's why we love it.

And one could also argue that the dudebro, 13 year old male power fantasy reputation of Gears precedes it.

Also, I just don't like the idea of a game creator shitting on another developer's game. If he wants to see "Heat, the game" then he should make it himself.

 

[Qalbert]

what if the dildo had a chainsaw?

 

[outunderthestars]

what if the dildo had a chainsaw?

This should have been the first response. 10/10

 

[SteveWinwood]

Cliffy can say whatever he wants, it's his opinion, and at the end of the day I get to choose to not agree with him because I greatly enjoyed Saints Row the Third and never like Gears.

 

[Karak]

OUCH! :lol

It was indeed a good sharp post.

But myself I like the over the top goofiness. I can see some thinking it was over the top and they could tone it down VERY little. But that is what I like about Saints Row.

 

[solarus]

Fuck off cliffy, you don't understand saints row at all.

 

[Zaventem]

Gears 3 MP is a piece of shit.

I've played tons of gears 3 so i can back up my claim and say it isn't i'll go out on a limb and say you haven't even played a gears game.Stopping power is the only thing that might turn off older Gear 1 fans even then most of the weapons see use.And if you're a gear one fan you the complaint can't even be about shotguns got their power and you need to be dead close in someone's face to get the free kill with the sawed off.

 

[Omegasquash]

Some folks are being a bit harsh on Cliffy for his opinion (which is a good talking point, but calling him out for the ultra-violence/quality of Gears is immaterial here).

I think he's just trying to say that the game's reputation for crude humor precedes itself and overshadows the amazing things that make it so much more.

It really is a fantastic game that revels it its own crazy world and that's why we love it.

But he focuses on two specific things that advocates (I guess that's what we are, in this case) of the game found funny. It's me being told that something I like is giving the industry a bad image and I disagree. When I'm told that my likes are damaging, I'll point the finger right back.

It would be like me saying that Pop music gives the music industry a bad image. A bit off as a simile but I hope it gets my meaning across.

 

[Wolfgunblood Garopa]

Yeah this is how I take it. I think he's just trying to say it doesn't need the gimmicks anymore, that it can fully stand on it's own as an IP. I think this thread is definitely illustrating that there's a "pro-dildo" contingent though.

Everything should be grimdark serious.

That's why Watch Dogs is such an anticipated game, it fills that void of playing as a criminal looking dude running and gunning through grimdark city streets.

 

[Corto]

Anal beads then?

 

[SpudBud]

Gears would be so much better if it had dildos.

 

[JCV]

So it's okay to make heads explode and to be able to hit random people in the game with a chainsaw, but the dildo is going too far?

I don't understand people sometimes

 

[Doctor Decimate]

the gimps and dildos are what makes it a distinct alternative to GTA, but ok.

 

[inner-G]

Make it a brown UE3 shooter.

What a dildo.

 

[kai3345]

Chainsawing dudes in half doesn't help industry perceptions any more than dildos do, Cliff.

 

[Marleyman]

So it's okay to make heads explode and to be able to hit random people in the game with a chainsaw, but the dildo is going too far?

I don't understand people sometimes

He is using the dildo, poorly I might add, to highlight that SR3 went too far over the top and doesn't need to considering how solid the mechanics are.

 

[Baron]

Leave the dildo, take the cannoli.

 

[HueyFreeman]

Everything should be grimdark serious.

That's why Watch Dogs is such an anticipated game, it fills that void of playing as a criminal looking dude running and gunning through grimdark city streets.

Thanks for summarizing my post so effectively. Do you do this for a living?

So it's okay to make heads explode and to be able to hit random people in the game with a chainsaw, but the dildo is going too far?

I don't understand people sometimes

I'd be all for the industry re-assessing the amount/nature of violent content in games actually. It's not about freedom of expression either, it's just about broadening content and appeal in the AAA category - throwing a dildo into the mix doesn't really accomplish that.

 

[SapientWolf]

I think the often cringe-worthy attempts at humor is the only real thing Saint's Row has going for it.
Without it, it would just be a dull and poorly-made GTA.

No, that's GTA IV. SR3 was actually fun.

 

[OrbitingCow]

I think all of this just exemplifies that twitter is the most goddamned awful thing to get any kind of serious point across, and if you are the one trying to do this you are a fucking moron.

 

[LiK]

How exactly is this on the developers or on the game itself? Why did he all of a sudden decide to have something vocal to say about this franchise when the third game has been out for almost two years and the fate of the fourth is up in the air (is it?).

Who knows. Apparently dick jokes are too much for him now that he's married.

 

[OrbitingCow]

Gears would be so much better if it had dildos.

Possibly.

Man: No honey, I quit murdering dudes with chainsaws and I am whacking them with dildos and they don't even die half the time. Fuck this game.

Wife: Mmkay. When are you going to go down on me loser?

 

[Kusagari]

He is using the dildo, poorly I might add, to highlight that SR3 went too far over the top and doesn't need to considering how solid the mechanics are.

Or maybe Volition wants it to be that over the top. Shocking I know.

 

[Spirit of Jazz]

I thought the use of Gimps in Saints Row the Third was far less embarrassing than anything in the Gears of War franchise because they were actually written in well. Gear's is just gratuitous violence with a horrible story, how is that any better? Also I think Cole's speech in Gears 2 is one of the most cringeworthy sections of any game I've played.

 

[LiK]

I thought the use of Gimps in Saints Row the Third was far less embarrassing than anything in the Gears of War franchise because they were actually written in well. Gear's is just gratuitous violence with a horrible story, how is that any better? Also I think Cole's speech in Gears 2 is one of the most cringe-worthy sections of any game I've played.

COOOOLLEE TRAIN BABY

 

[sflufan]

Now that Volition/Saints Row is now owned by a German firm, I bet there are gonna be dildos EVERYWHERE in the next game.

And lots of scat porn references.

 

[JCV]

He is using the dildo, poorly I might add, to highlight that SR3 went too far over the top and doesn't need to considering how solid the mechanics are.

Yeah but that's the point of Saints Rows. It's over the top in everything it does, and that's why it's a fun experience. I don't get why the dildo itself is more over the top than the rest of the game and why removing it would be beneficial to the crazyness of the game.

 

[cuyahoga]

Lose the dildos and gimps and some of the puerile things, but please do not drop the lighthearted tone. If anything, make it weirder, sillier and funnier—I want an entire game as unexpected and surprising as that weird text adventure mission.

 

[Lemonte]

I haven't bought SR3 just because all that immature stuff in it, but I think I would enjoy SR3 much more than GTA IV which was dull and boring.

 

[FastRedPonyCar]

My wife saw me playing SR3 one time. I was a toilet running around with the dildo bat. Mega lulz from everyone.

It's a game, who cares. I think if there was gratuitous sex/nudity then she may raise an eyebrow in disapproval but beating shit up with a big dildo is freakin hilarious.

 

[jimi_dini]

Leave the dildo, take the cannoli.

Use the shark cannon

The FRICKIN' SHARK CANNON.

I just love Saints Row 3. I can't believe that the first mission is more fun than I had in GTA IV as a whole. And then it tops itself on every mission. Every single mission. No video game has caused me to laugh so hard in ages. It's like uh what do I get next? What do I get next? Also I asked myself after every mission - they can't get more funny than this. They can't. And then they do. I would have never thought that they even added a tiny

Spoiler

text adventure into the game

and then they even added driving with a frickin'

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tiger

.

 

[LiK]

I haven't bought SR3 just because all that immature stuff in it, but I think I would enjoy SR3 much more than GTA IV which was dull and boring.

You should buy SR3. The humor is smart and funny. The game will make you laugh many times.

 

[Aggrotek]

I think he misses the whole point of the game.

 

[outunderthestars]

You should buy SR3. The humor is smart and funny. The game will make you laugh many times.

THIS. It's in my top 5 games of the generation.

 

[Brinbe]

Hell no! Fuck off, Cliff. Just play GTA if that's what you f'n want!

And really, who gives a flying fuck what others think about what you play? Do you also want artists to change up their music or tv/movie directors to change up their content because they can cause embarrassment as well? What a ridiculously stupid statement, the more I think about it.

 

[Hawkian]

Purple suits?

Everything about Saints Row 3 is fucking ridiculous. Removing the fact that you can swing around a dildo wouldn't turn it into training day. You go into a goddamn computer.

edit: Like the scale-breaking testosterone festival of the chainsaw killcam in any GEoW combat sequence would be less embarassing to have your wife walk in on? This is like the most naive condemnation of gratuitousness in history.

 

[JCV]

Also, I didn't know that maturity was about whether or not you could still get a laugh from toilet humor. I guess I'll never be mature.

 

[LiK]

Purple suits?

Everything about Saints Row 3 is fucking ridiculous. Removing the fact that you can swing around a dildo wouldn't turn it into training day. You go into a goddamn computer.

You can have a Zombie voice! Brilliant

 

[Morgan Blackhand]

I agree with Cliffy. I liked Saints Row 2 better because it wasn't so over the top and had some good drama with the jokes.

 

[SapientWolf]

Purple suits?

Everything about Saints Row 3 is fucking ridiculous. Removing the fact that you can swing around a dildo wouldn't turn it into training day. You go into a goddamn computer.

And you get turned into a talking toilet.

Why is everyone so fixated on the dildos anyway? Yes, they're in there. No, you're not required to carry them around and use them all the time. Seems like it says more about the person than the game.

 

[Phonomezer]

I haven't bought SR3 just because all that immature stuff in it, but I think I would enjoy SR3 much more than GTA IV which was dull and boring.

You missed the THQ Humble Bundle?

 

[SmokyDave]

I haven't bought SR3 just because all that immature stuff in it, but I think I would enjoy SR3 much more than GTA IV which was dull and boring.

If you ever do buy it, you'll kick yourself for waiting so long. It's fucking great.

 

[Wolfgunblood Garopa]

So it's okay to make heads explode and to be able to hit random people in the game with a chainsaw, but the dildo is going too far?

I don't understand people sometimes

Blood fountains after a headshot, blood spraying all over the screen from cutting someone in half... that's the kind of good old fashioned video game entertainment we're expected to be enjoying. Let's stick to that, we don't want to embarrass anyone.