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Core i9 processors apparently coming very soon
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Turbowaffles
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This is cool and all but when are we getting quantum computers?
They will be on the X299 HEDT platform, but these quad's are kinda like how Intel makes quad core Xeon-E5's.
Exactly its like im in lalaland right now.
Why would somebody on an expensive platform like X299 buy a cheap processor like those?
This isn't like servers.
These are on a X299 platform, not the cheaper z270 platforms.
That is if X299 doesn't end up cheaper, but then the z270 based motherboards would have to become cheaper in turn.
ShadowKingpin
Member
Ouch.
Locuza
Member
No, but Skylake-X modies the cache hierarchy.
Since at least Sandy-Bridge Intel uses a inclusive cache design where all data content per core from the L1I/D$ (32+32KB) and L2$ (256KB) is stored in the L3$ (1536/2048/2560KB).
This effectivly reduces the cache capacity of the L3$ but enables robust data integrity across all cores.
But Skylake-X will switch to an exklusive L3$ design.
The L2$ size will grow from 256KB to 1024KB and the L3$ size will be reduced to 1,375MB per core.
If the cache design would be still inclusive there would be bascially nothing left from the L3$.
AMD also uses an exclusive L3$ design with Zen:
64KB L1I$ + 32KB L1D$, 512 KB L2$ and 1024KB exclusive L3$ per core.
DonMigs85
Member
Isn't Ryzen's L3 a victim cache?
So far only the i7e to i9 rebrand is known? If AMD prices that rumored threadripper(16c/32t) platform competitively and Intel doesn't react price-wise they will be hurt(at least until theirs 10nm is ready)
I think their strategy is to maintain the price tag the same at the cost of lost sales to Ryzen until they have process advantage again.
I think their strategy is to maintain the price tag the same at the cost of lost sales to Ryzen until they have process advantage again.
To be fair, it is a good strategy.
The single-core advantage alone will tide them over until 10nm gets into gear.
theclaw135
Banned
For sure. If you're in the 0.infinitesimal hardcore gamers with a daily use for a PS/2 port, COM port, LPT port, TPM port, or iGPU, here's a brownie point.
MrCunningham
Member
I didn't expect to see intel respond to Ryzen this quickly. Does this mean that i7's will drop in price? Or will i9's be a higher price tier?
Yes, I've been thinking for a while that with their diversification efforts(nervana, mobileye) and ongoing restructuration, they can't just shrink their revenue streams right now, and so they will rely only on IPC and clocks, and risk resigning some money to amd.
People expecting Intel to lower prices will be disappointed if this is the case, though.
They still exist.
Coulomb_Barrier
Member
Doesn't matter they won't be faster than a 7700K for gaming.
Wolfgang Jr
Banned
TDP?
The Hamburglar
Banned
Interesting. Been waiting to upgrade, do you think the 6 and 8 score will overclock to 4.4ghz without issue?
DonMigs85
Member
Probably best to wait for Cannon Lake or even Ice Lake since those are the ones rumored to have a big IPC uplift.
SargerusBR
I love Pokken!
i just upgraded to a i5 Skylake... 
ScepticMatt
Member
Quantum computers don't provide a general improvement. They are very good at specific operations.
Caayn
Member
If I remember correctly the i9 series was originally planned to be the name for the extreme editions in the i series, the 990x, 4930, 58xx, etc i7 CPUs.
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Shame that they're now reducing the HEDT platform by bringing low core/thread, dual channel memory and low PCIe lanes CPUs onto it. And convoluting the naming with these plans.
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Shame that they're now reducing the HEDT platform by bringing low core/thread, dual channel memory and low PCIe lanes CPUs onto it. And convoluting the naming with these plans.
LelouchZero
Member
Hmm that's interesting, thanks!
If Cannon Lake is still H2 2017 sure; but Ice Lake is kind of too far away.
i just upgraded to a i5 Skylake...
Considering there are already >4 core CPUs out and their price & performance, you're not in the worst situation.
It will be pretty obvious when it's time to get a >4 core CPU in terms of game performance. Just maybe don't expect 5+ years of optimal performance out of your Skylake...
so that's how intel is going to save the boutique Xeon line, by holding SLI and PCIE SSDs hostage to a $1000 CPU that might or might not be slower at 4-6 core usage than the cheaper models
cartman414
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Kaby Lake-X (i7-7640K, 7740K) had already been on the roadmap alongside Skylake-X, evidently as entry-level enthusiast (lol) chips for anyone later wanting to upgrade to higher-end chips on the X299 platform.
It just happened to come right before the mainstream debut of 6 cores with Coffee Lake, and was originally scheduled for later in the year until AMD forced their hand with Ryzen.
You must mean Coffee Lake (14nm++). Cannon Lake (10nm) is being limited to low power chips for tablets (4.5/6 W Y) and ultrabooks (15 W U), with 2 cores.
Coffee Lake might be ready by August, which is close enough.
From Videocardz. Well I eat my words, that's a pretty wide lineup from Intel.
One interesting rumor from Anandtech forums is that you must have a new motherboard Z370 for Coffee Lake.
One interesting rumor from Anandtech forums is that you must have a new motherboard Z370 for Coffee Lake.
CEJames
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EVA UNIT 01
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Here's hoping i7s drop in price.
I'm rocking an i5 6500 and would like an upgrade.
I'm rocking an i5 6500 and would like an upgrade.
Based on the new chart, it seems Turbo Boost 3.0 allows the 8c and 10c parts to hit quite high clocks.
Having said that, 7740K got you covered lol.
scoobs
Member
And totally useless for gaming. I'm hoping this drops prices of the 7700k.
I've been having issue where my X99 board loses track of 2 of my DIMMs.
Seems like a good time to upgrade and pass my 5820k on to my kids.
It must be just a coincidence that it has two more cores than AMD's thread ripper. Intel seems to be feeling the pressure now that AMD is somewhat competitive again. It'll be interesting to see if Intel suddenly finds a greater than 10% IPC improvement with the next CPU cycle.
Seems like a good time to upgrade and pass my 5820k on to my kids.
It must be just a coincidence that it has two more cores than AMD's thread ripper. Intel seems to be feeling the pressure now that AMD is somewhat competitive again. It'll be interesting to see if Intel suddenly finds a greater than 10% IPC improvement with the next CPU cycle.
For most games sure but when you are 4+ GHz there doesn't seem to be that much gain from upping the clock speeds. Games are being limited by consoles as they have about half the clock speed.
I think you might see benefits from 8 cores in CPU heavy games that scale well with more cores. Console ports might also benefit since PS4 for example is technically 8 core. That said, we probably have to wait a few years before having tons of cores is actually useful in games. It has taken years for Hyperthreading to be anything but something that results in less or equal performance.
Intel being Intel, I expect the over 4 core models to be hideously expensive unless AMD manages to pressure them enough.
vewn
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And totally amazing for prosumers/professionals.
Hoping this actually starts a price war in the higher end market
General Lee
Member
Looks like they're just bringing the high end Xeons to HEDT to compete against Threadripper. I'm sure Intel is hating what this will do to their margins.
Tarin02543
Member
I'm aiming for a sweet sweet i9 with 10 cores. Almost 12 cores with a sweet discount.
Darkstorne
Member
At this rate I'll be amazed when a new Intel CPU doesn't require a new motherboard :/
I'm so glad CPUs are finally going somewhere again though! Thank you for the competition, Ryzen! Still waiting on an 8 core 16 thread CPU at 4ghz+. Whichever team gets there first, I'm on board. Until then, my 2600k is holding on
barely
Everything in that rumor chart is for X299