I'm a hardcore nerd these are the sorts of things I notice, picking up my broken PS4 copy of Thief tomorrow
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Crave: Thief PS4s Low Framerate is Proof that 1080p isnt Always the Answer
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Artemis-Thoth
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1080p is a standard, if you can't utilize the power of PS4 to achieve it, maybe the engine is shit and/or the dev team needs to slow down the dev cycle and not release garbage to the gaming community because of some theoretical deadline.
Uncle Rupee
Banned
Holy crap, it's the new Strider on 3DS!
KennyLinder
Member
QA? No, you don't understand how game development works if that's what you think.
There could well be for all us normal people know , riding on the back of the 1080 hype wave.
lordchompy
Member
The difference in performance drop in the teens isn't usually justified by slightly lowered resolution unless there is also another issue contributing.
I think the game is running out of memory on the PS4 because it was likely optimized on the Xbox One and its ESRAM, which is causing the framerate on PS4 to dive into the teens when the game is loading data in and out of the RAM.
The higher the resolution, the more RAM is needed to buffer the data loading.
I think the game is running out of memory on the PS4 because it was likely optimized on the Xbox One and its ESRAM, which is causing the framerate on PS4 to dive into the teens when the game is loading data in and out of the RAM.
The higher the resolution, the more RAM is needed to buffer the data loading.
"regularly dipping into the 15-20 range during gameplay. At several points in the journey, it even edges toward the single digits"
Unacceptable if this is true. Regular dips to 15-20 guarantees i wont be buying this game unless its fixed... Damn shame too, was looking forward to picking this up friday..
Unacceptable if this is true. Regular dips to 15-20 guarantees i wont be buying this game unless its fixed... Damn shame too, was looking forward to picking this up friday..
It amuses me that so many people run straight to rushed porting. Even if that was the case, people would prefer the 1080p with shitty frame rates to 900p with good frames? I am not one who can tell the difference between 60 and 30 very well, but I sure as hell can tell when something dips to single digits!
My opinion is that devs should make the game work first, and then do the resolution choice. I think they will notice that more people care about a game working than the resolution. GAF will bemoan it not being 1080, but at the end of the day this is only one forum for enthusiasts and not the general population.
My opinion is that devs should make the game work first, and then do the resolution choice. I think they will notice that more people care about a game working than the resolution. GAF will bemoan it not being 1080, but at the end of the day this is only one forum for enthusiasts and not the general population.
boredandlazy
Member
Oh why did I get a PS4? All of these multiplatform games running at higher framerates at a higher resolution on XBOne, what was I thinking?
Seriously though, what does this game actually look like? Is it high quality like Tomb Raider and Killzone? Or is an obviously cross-gen game?
Seriously though, what does this game actually look like? Is it high quality like Tomb Raider and Killzone? Or is an obviously cross-gen game?
Hidden One
Member
I knew I shoulda canceled my pre-order. They better patch this game.
Except the XB1 version has major framerate issues too.
But I don't expect Phire to update the OP anytime soon.
edit: I was wrong, thanks Phire.
Nocturno999
Member
I think Killzone kills that argument.
Thief is not a graphics powerhouse and the game has many small areas.
Thief is not a graphics powerhouse and the game has many small areas.
The idea games are running this poorly on either system just three months out is fucking disgusting.
ResolutionGate is mostly an interesting technical debate, but in no way is 720p offensive. But the idea that a UE3 game with PS360 versions isn't hitting 30fps perfectly is absolutely unacceptable.
What happened to this project? Five years, looks rough, poorly received, runs badly, embarrassing.
ResolutionGate is mostly an interesting technical debate, but in no way is 720p offensive. But the idea that a UE3 game with PS360 versions isn't hitting 30fps perfectly is absolutely unacceptable.
What happened to this project? Five years, looks rough, poorly received, runs badly, embarrassing.
Tomb Raider doesn't run at a solid 60fps though, It does a similar thing to Knack where it's constantly searching between 40-60.
This is going to be a terrible generation for people who like solid framrates
Red Blaster
Member
the author of the article is the same person who made these posts regarding titanfall and is now banned
you can take a guess why
you can take a guess why
I'm sure people would prefer 900p with good framerate to 1080p with bad framerate. The problem is that its horrible framerate on both.
I think that Two Worlds Xbox demo is still up. Sounds like someone needs to take that for a spin!
And admittedly there is something of a point of resolution vs FPS, problem is that given the games that have hit 30+ FPS on PS4 and even XB1 the problem lies more with developers who seem to consider some visual shinies more important than damn playability, compromising both fluidity AND gameplay scope for this. Nevermind that often mentioned possibility that the developers just messed up.
Oh dear.
Prince Vultan
Banned
I'd honestly never heard of Craveonline before this thread, but I took a quick look at the site and noticed that this article was written by someone called "Jonathan Leack".
That wouldn't be the same as 'JLeack' here on GAF who has been on the Xbone defense force since he signed up last year by any chance, would it?
Edit: ah, already been covered above I see... lol
That wouldn't be the same as 'JLeack' here on GAF who has been on the Xbone defense force since he signed up last year by any chance, would it?
Edit: ah, already been covered above I see... lol
lordchompy
Member
The same sort of issues, or not as bad?
SJRB
Gold Member
Nice detective work. I guess that explains the article.
What is so amusing about that when other sources say that the Xbone version has the same issues? Just looks like really bad port.
Haha. Daaaaamn!
Buuusted.
Games like AC4 kind of just highlight how bad of a port job this was. Perfect smooth 30fps at 1080p and still has better graphics and is open world compared to Thief.
Oh, more paid xbots. When will the madness end? =)
Jinfash
needs 2 extra inches
Massive shade detected.
Oh wow it is the same guy. Dude has been having breakdowns on things XB1 related since the E3 reveal last year.
Cow Goes Moo
Member
goddamn, nice find
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
Banned
I'll gladly take 720p/60fps over 1080p/30fps any day. This is why having options within a game is nice.
With that said, I don't believe the author. I'll see it for myself. Digital Foundry or bust (Kojima, save us!)
With that said, I don't believe the author. I'll see it for myself. Digital Foundry or bust (Kojima, save us!)
NullPointer
Member
That is a broken game. What the hell?
How much you wager, stranger?
No idea, reviews are all over the place. Guess we need DF to settle things.
Zombie James
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Natureboy99
Banned
Nobody said 1080p low frame rate is the answer. Everyone said 1080p 60 fps is the answer. 30 fps minimum.
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Deleted member 80556
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Well, I guess I'm waiting for a more reputable site to report on this then.
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