Jest Chillin
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I genuinely believe Travis had no idea what that was. I don't think their studio has the big monitor that shows them the twitch chat up for them, so as not to influence the game.
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Critical Role: Voice Actors Playing D&D
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Jay Shadow
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Turns out it was a bit more than luck, cause Matt misheard Travis. He got the result for the Queen of Hearts instead of the Queen of Spades which would have been -2 to all saving throws. Still could have been way way worse.
BrightLightLava
Unconfirmed Member
I still catching up, and just got thru the Umbrasyl fight.
Good god, all the stuff with Tiny Vax and Scanlan inside the dragon was funny as hell.
The times when the venn diagram of Travis and Grog intersects on something neither of them know about is when some of the best scenes happen.
Nice. I'm glad he got what he did, Grog always needs a new wacky weapon.
I have a vague idea of the things in the deck, but I decided not to look it up so that it'll be surprising if it gets pulled out again.
That fight feels like it happened years ago now. 2016 was a long year.
Alpha Centauri
Member
Man Taliesan needs to wash his hands. Dude stays licking his fingers and sticking them in his mouth. It's making me inadvertently transform this into a podcast vs. watching them lol.
This world is blowing my mind. Mercer is cruel yet often times benevolent. And I swear one of these days Keyleth is going to kill the whole party
This world is blowing my mind. Mercer is cruel yet often times benevolent. And I swear one of these days Keyleth is going to kill the whole party
Calcium
Banned
Just finished the new episode. As always Rothfuss is probably my least favorite guest, but the episode was still enjoyable. I really don't get what Scanlan is doing, though. His current character mindset is
fearing death because he has someone to live for, but he starts fucking with drugs that could easily kill him? Doesn't make sense.
I saw a tweet from Matt that said resurrections get harder with each time they are used. Things might be getting nasty for Vox Machina in 2017.
https://twitter.com/matthewmercer/status/817268116350586880
https://twitter.com/matthewmercer/status/817268116350586880
I think responsibility is starting to weigh on him from his personal life and the world crisis, and he's not up to dealing with it. Similar to why people turn to that in the real world too, I would guess is what he's going for.
Calcium
Banned
Uh..hasn't she died like 3 times now? That'd make the DC at least a 15 for the resurrection and I'm pretty sure Pike rolled a 10 last time.
It's a pretty weak move for Scanlan when all his development up to this point has been stellar. When he discovered he
had a daughter and the character growth that came out of that
I get the feeling he might lower the DC depending on how good/flavorful the other players' assistance in the ritual is, as well. Either way, I think
Keyleth is the only one who hasn't died at least once out of the group.
Nobody wants to be a
deadbeat dad
Calcium
Banned
That is actually surprising. The way she performs in combat you'd think she would be on the other end of that.
Jay Shadow
Member
Vax has also never died. Which is a miracle considering the situations he's put himself in.
She's often in another form with an extra set of hit points. Although there's a pretty good chance she would have gotten instant perma killed
when she decided to poke the mystery orb if she didn't role a 20.
Elemental forms
lava flop.
That's true. Advantage on death saving throws is handy. And he's so decked out with fancy shit and insane mobility.
I think 6...sometimes 7 with Ashly is enough Matts done well in giving the party items to help the fact they lost their main Magic User, Kiki was essentially the *utility bitch* for awhile giving her the staff for extra damage spells was a great idea even if the staff is fucking bonkers in how good it is.
Mary, the guy who plays Kashaw, and the Talks Machina host are starting their own home game with a few others I think, but I'm sure a lot of people would drop whatever they were doing to be involved in the next CR campaign. 6-7 players (hopefully consistently 7 by then) is already a lot though, so I feel like the cast will stay the same unless one of the mains drop out for whatever reason. I'll be very interested to see how they handle different characters since I get the feeling their current characters are just slightly caricatured versions of themselves, whether the cast admits it or not.
I think druids tend to get put into the "utility bitch" role because they are so good at it, but I could see it being a bummer to the player who feels handicapped in battle because of it. That staff is crazy, though I think Marisha forgets about it sometimes, and I wonder if we'll see an awakened form during the finale with Kiki's archenemy.
Calcium
Banned
Oh wow, I wish they recorded that game. I'd watch the hell out of that. Will and Mary are always fantastic when they are on the show.
I really need to find a D&D group, or convince some friends to start one. I've always been interested in the lore/monsters/art/etc through video games and just general nerd culture, but after watching Critical Role it makes me want to finally jump in and play for real. I don't know if normal people can compete with a DM like Mercer, though. I guess I'll just have to infiltrate their next campaign somehow.
They both seem to really enjoy the game and are actors so they are quick on the improv. The issue with guest characters is when they aren't quick enough to keep the pace up and contribute meaningfully to the role playing.
Jest Chillin
Member
Keyleth, Vax, and Grog I think have never died. Grog was effectively brain dead once but I'm not sure if it's the same thing.
As for the death rule, I think it's something Matt recently changed given the nature of the show. I don't think it was any easier before but I would guess with how often deaths started happening, and with how much assistance the party has been able to pull out, he probably added the +5 in order to avoid cheapening his previous ruleset.
Grog was killed by the talking sword.
Calcium
Banned
I highly recommend it. I started playing because of Critical Role and I'm really glad I did. Just keep in mind that you probably aren't going to be in a game anywhere near as good as the campaign in Critical Role. The group I DM is fun, but they aren't super into RP so it's not as satisfying for me.
Henchmen21
Banned
And K'varn
Deaths in order go: Pike (off stream), Grog, Vex, Grog Again, Tiberius, Percy, Vex (again) & Scanlan in the same episode
Both in the same manner.
Vax is so weird haha.
Calcium
Banned
That was a great moment. "You know you're getting weirder?" I've really grown to like Percy over the course of this show which is funny because initially I didn't like him. The first 20 episodes or so Talesin just sat there contributing very little, but he really came out swinging after that.
I still think the
Percy/Vex
Keylith/Vax
That whole bath scene was constructed so well on the fly. The casual "you know you're getting weirder" is definitely one of Percy's best lines, and Vex made all of his lines to Vax better in retrospect by jumping into the scene. You can see the moment when Laura gets the idea to do it, too.
You know, that wouldn't even help me not notice him doing it because it's so loud. I always thought he was just smacking his lips though, because I'm always watching somebody else when he does it.
Jest Chillin
Member
It was subtle but it was there. A great example of how the increasing reminder of the characters own mortality influenced their decision to just go for it.
That moment
in the Feywild with the title and Vex's dad was really big for her, I think. It makes sense that him having her back in that situation when she felt most vulnerable would foster feelings or reveal feelings that were already there. It actually makes more sense to me than Keyleth/Vax, who have really awkward chemistry because they're both pulling their "we don't deserve to be happy" behavior all the time.
Calcium
Banned
It was very subtle and just blew up after
Percy died
Percy giving Vex a title
Yeah, that was when it started for sure. Just saying, they could have hinted at it beforehand. I really didn't see it coming based on the interactions the two had previously.
Oh, for sure.
Keylith/Vax
I've been slowly going through the old episodes again. Anybody else completely forget that Vax
Or just me?
has a giant pet wolf now?
Well he did
modify her broom to make it better and she helped him work on it. If there's any direct way into Vex's heart, it's that.
Jay Shadow
Member
According to Laura it began for Vex when Percy started building arrows for her cause no one had ever given her things without wanting something back.
Calcium
Banned
Wasn't the instruction to just watch the city for a while then he'd be free to go his own way?
Zahra made her some Dragonslayer Arrows. So close to Zahra/Vex.
Jay Shadow
Member
Vex would still probably hit that if given the opportunity.
That was what the deal was
after Grog convinced it when it was first released. After the assassination attempt on them all in Whitestone by the Rakshasa and a group of assassins, the wolf caught one who fled after the fight, and when he returned he was all cuddly with Vax because he had since multiclassed into paladin for the Raven Queen.
It's kind of unclear at the moment, so I don't know if it'll be returning or not. I think I just like the idea of the twins both flying around with animal companions.
It's kind of unclear at the moment, so I don't know if it'll be returning or not. I think I just like the idea of the twins both flying around with animal companions.
Miss.Selfdestruct
Member
Might give this show another go sometime since it's so highly praised. Streamed DnD is so jarring since you're not involved.
Calcium
Banned
Haha, probably.
Ah, forgot about that part. It'll be interesting to see if anything comes of that. I'm sure it hasn't escaped Mercer's memory.
The first few episodes have some pretty rough audio issues, but do try and stick with it if you like D&D.
Jest Chillin
Member
Oh they had, they're just both types that don't do it in an obvious way.
Vex starts calling Percy "darling" in conversation, which gets missed because it comes across similar to they way older women may refer to kids as "honey" or "sweetie." Basically a slightly caring but platonic reference (Zahra uses words like this for eveyone for example) but Percy is the only one to be referred to like that by Vex. She occassionally uses terms like this with Vax but usually in a teasingly sarcastic way. On Percy's end of things, he's got such a fatalistic view of things, that I don't think he would have ever admitted anything had she not first. His version of flirtation could be picked out if you noticed that he always volunteered to make/improve/modify things for Vex. He tends to criticize her decisions/though process less than others. I think his end of things grew primarily out of respect for her willingness to take the lead and her practicality when doing so (The others either tend to default to either Percy or Vex, or in the case of Scanlan, make ridiculous decisions when they take the lead.
When the title was given, I was extremely surprised, but not because it appeared strange but because it was so much more overt than they had been previously. Likewise for the kiss.
When the title was given, I was extremely surprised, but not because it appeared strange but because it was so much more overt than they had been previously. Likewise for the kiss.
That was how I interpreted things anyhow.
This show has inspired me to play one of the old isometric Bioware RPGs since I don't have a group of friends to play DnD with or have any desire to play it with randoms. And Travis' Grog has really inspired me to play a Barbarian. I am usually a Mage in any RPGs but I think I will mix it up a bit.
Not sure which one to play, I own them all on GoG.
Not sure which one to play, I own them all on GoG.
Jest Chillin
Member
Yup. That's the downside to a Ranger that goes with the pet. At least in the original 5.0 book rules. The pets is pretty vulnerable and Ranger dps is severely limited compared to the alternate class path, Hunter. Matt's tried to help that with some of the items he's allowed Vex and Trinket to have but the problem really is in the bones of the archetype that allows the pet.
Maybe this has been fixed in Arcana updates though?
Jay Shadow
Member
It was fixed, but too big of a change to implement with Vex after this long. For example they could put Trinket separate in the turn order now, but Vex would lose her multi attack.
Calcium
Banned
Yeah, that really is a shame. Matt has tried to buff Trinket up some, but it still results in him never being used. I'd really like to see Matt come up with something that lets Trinket be used more, I really miss the interactions that came from him being around.
The answer is simple: buff Trinket's AC and stats to PC levels and make him a separate entity from Vex.
Calcium
Banned
Of course, but knowing Matt he'd probably like to incorporate a story element to this upgrade so that is what he'd have to figure out.
"He's a werebear now. Shut up and go with it."
Jest Chillin
Member
Figures. I'll have to look for that update.
Too stronk. That's essentially adding another party member which then would mess with how he would have to adjust encounter difficulty, which already is a pain in the ass as the DMG lists stuff for 5 party members or less. He basically has to hack the enemy stats for every encounter as it is.
Well they've had more members before.
Clearly trinket needs a vestige (or two) of his own!