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Dark Souls III Press Event Discussion: Embargo - 8am CST (03/01/)
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You guys have already seen the area, but here's my footage of the first area of the game with some of my thoughts.
Japanese people are sort of known for working and not taking holidays.
Dunno hard to say because there were/are definitly Team A and B (you can see/feel that with Dark Souls 2 imo), and I cannot tell you how many people they got from SCEJ for Bloodborne for example, but I guess they have many talented people in their ranks, outsource many art jobs and plan accordingly.
Even though my preference goes to Dark Souls world as well, i can't say I care that much. Shortcuts exist within Demon Souls' world as well, and Demons was awesome. For that matter, same goes for Bloodborne.
Inkvoterad
Member
Jesus, that
dialogue is awful. I'm sure it's to make new players understand the mechanics more easily but it really ruins "muh immersion".
Rest looks godly.
Andre
Rest looks godly.
Bloodborne was open world though.
I mean, this is Dark Souls 3, not Demon's Souls 2, so I don't understand the change (provided it's real).
ViewtifulJC
Banned
God forbid they explain the mechanics in-game to people instead of going on message boards/wikis to find out the same information
ِAgreed
My biggest gripe with Demon's Souls is that the levels feel just like that, levels, and it feels like that in the footage; very restrictive in the first few zones. It's the real reason why you can warp from the onset - you have to. How you get to the Undead Settlement just made me roll my eyes.
Inkvoterad
Member
Or do it in a menu or through messages? That method feels so "PRESS X TO DO THIS SNAKE" imo.
Gormenghast
Member
spoiler about equipment:
I think he says that you can use, as in Demon's Souls, a boss soul to craft stuff, including a special ring that makes you recover HPs through attacks, basically Bloodborne.
I'm pretty sure you still have to warp to areas from a hub in BB.
And a game can change all they want. Actually, Dark Souls 1 is the only game that is so interconnected. The rest pretty much deals with warping and shortcuts within those worlds.
Inkvoterad
Member
That's the only place that thing happened at though, right? I wouldn't say it's confirmed if so. Could just be something in style with Anor Londo.
Adry9
Member
This is my biggest concern too :/
Dark Souls 3 uses a lot of assets from the other games, especially for environments. That at least was my first impression and today Eurogamer wrote this
Plus they have a big staff, tech they've been using since Demon's Souls more or less and an established gameplay concept
Darryl M R
Member
I definitely like the description for the
class. I think I'm going to pick that at the start.
Assassin
Both Dark games and BB requires warping at some points, yes, but it's different to have some areas that requires warp that have every area requiring a warp, and basically make it stage based. That only happens in Demon's Souls. Dark 1, 2 and BB the majority of their levels in an openconnected state (BB the less but still).
I already hated the hub being it's own thing on BB, btw Still, BB wasn't DS3 anyways.
Killer Queen
Banned
If that's how you're behaving over a few areas I think it's time to take a break from the series or videogames in general.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
Vaati mentioned the hub is basically like the Nexus and disconnected from everything. You teleport from there to Lothric High Wall, and then at the the end of that you get flown down to the Undead settlement.
So I mean they're "connected", but its not like you can walk back up there. You need to teleport between the areas, which is probably why the fast travel system is open from the beginning.
I'm sure this probably helped sped along the development, but I'm sure this will disappoint plenty of DS1 purists.
edit: like the drama queen two posts above me, for example
Scorpion Soldier
Member
Here's our hands on article, no footage up yet though:
http://press-start.com.au/2016/03/02/hands-preview-dark-souls-3/
http://press-start.com.au/2016/03/02/hands-preview-dark-souls-3/
Not like this, Killer Queen, not like this.
I'm not a DS1 purist, they said from the beginning that it was using the Bloodborne structure, and I was more than ok with that. The twist is: It isn't! Bloodborne has some disconnected areas, sure, just like Dark Souls 1 has its fair share too, like the Painted World, Undead Asylum and Anor Londo, but the very first area already needs a cutscene to lead you to the next? That's incredibly disappointing.
We should wait and see a confirmation, maybe that person got it wrong.
No need to call drama queen anyone.
Warping was open from the beginning in BB and DS2 but they still had connected areas. Hell, DS2 areas had iffy connection but still had them even with the development mess the game suffered, so I don't think it has anything to do with speeding development. The only reason I see is just catering to Demon's fans.
Anyways, we should wait and see.
Killer Queen
Banned
I understand why you'd be frustrated, but that's quite a bit much especially for something that's not confirmed. Just kinda tone it down a bit before you have a heart attack.
he said in the patreon message he discovered a hidden mechanic, so it might be worth to check it out, don't know if it's in this video and since I'm avoiding spoilers, I can't tell
Inkvoterad
Member
Ah, hmm. I'll live.
Inkvoterad
Member
Watching peeve's footage right now. It is definetly ALOT more open than DeS, so i highly doubt it'll feel as linear as that game did.
psychotron
Member
I just watched the first 10 minutes. I can't get the smile off my face. It looks amazing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
PapaEmeritus
Member
That coiled sword aspect seems like it's going to mak esome tough decisions- gone is the feather- now you have to decide which limited amount of bonfires you can warp to- wow thats kind of HUGE
demosthenes
Member
Yoshi alt?
Thank you for this more well thought out post, not asking someone to kill you.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
Like I said, the areas themselves seem quite large and diverse. Like Peeve mentioned at the beginning, there's a tower on the east side where you could stop that guy from throwing arrows at you on the way to the Greatwood boss, or NPCs with sidequests you can talk to, secrets weapons/rings/items/equipment to find, etc.
IDK, I think I'm gonna quickly get over the fact that I can't walk back Stage 2 from Stage 3, as it were if the actual gameplay areas are quality.
That seemed to be a one-time thing. In all the other footage, you can warp from any bonfire to anywhere(so no more warping back to the Nexus just to warp somewhere else like BB at least).
Can you kill me now that you know my reasons?
Ghost Slayer
Member
Don't die or you'll suffer even more loadings.
Good lord, this brings back my horrible experiences with Bloodborne at launch, still don't know why I could stand at long ass loading with that boring screen
CyberPunked
Member
Yep, this is definitely a next-gen From game...
Dream_Journey
Member
Damn, look gorgeous. Also character creation background music. T.T
Edit: Wow at this quick bow shots!
Edit: Wow at this quick bow shots!
hey_it's_that_dog
benevolent sexism
35 seconds to load from Firelink to the High Wall. What a time to be alive.
Don't die or you'll suffer even more loadings.
You should patch your game.
It was easy to deal with on my first playthrough because I just took the time to think about what I was going through at the moment. A LOT to process, but after that it was painful. Even with the patch it can still be a bit too long.
I hope the loading times on PC are fast like in Dark 1 and 2. Probably a bit slower due to the increased asset quality, but it should still be much faster than Bloodborne.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
Don't worry, I'm sure the PC version will take this down to 30(to match the locked FPS)
Adry9
Member
Well, that's exactly how Dark Souls 1 started, so it shouldn't be indicative of anything. Honestly, as long as the areas are bigger than the ones in DS2 and feel well placed I think it would be ok.
Ghost Slayer
Member
Hey, at least you have item description. It's better than BB 1.0 :3
Dude played the game for 5 hours and beat 3 bosses. Not a single area could be walked to, it's really not comparable to the fact that the intro area is separated from the rest of the world in Dark Souls. We actually already knew the intro was also separated in Dark III, and I also didn't mind that.
It's more like not being able to walk from Central Yharnam to Cathedral Ward.
Gormenghast
Member
We absolutely do not know anything about PC port. It could be great, it could be the worst thing ever.
Chances are 50-50. For sure it's a different engine than Dark Souls 2, so the fact it was good is really no guarantee of what happens with DS3.
We just don't know/can't guess.
Chances are 50-50. For sure it's a different engine than Dark Souls 2, so the fact it was good is really no guarantee of what happens with DS3.
We just don't know/can't guess.
Killer Queen
Banned
Could have been a way to lock out players from wandering too far.
Gormenghast
Member
It was also said there are significantly less areas in the whole game. So we also don't know how the whole game will feel.