They did pointed out how even so people still see her as black, also it seems part of the problem is her hypocrisy, need to check again
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Dear White People |OT| Bet You Think The Show Is About You
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well I have more of a problem with suggesting dating outside of your own race is in anyway wrong...
Sunster
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I think he was a little too eager to call them. Things weren't even jumping off yet.
lightskintwin
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LOL That's not how race works in America. Sam will never be considered White, but she definitely would be considered Black because she looks Black and society will prejudge her as that for better or for worse.
So let's say a son's parents didn't want him to date outside his race, yet alone a Black woman, and he brought Sam home. They're not going to find out she's half White, and then say well she's fine because technically you're not dating outside of your race. LOL
The bump to budget over the indie film is immediately noticeable. This is one of the better made shows Netflix has done. I really like how narratively they just get to the point almost right away but seem to keep planting seeds for future branches and characters to observe. It makes me more optimistic about it than I was going in (I didn't think they could stretch out the rather curt, uncomplicated film into an entire series but it's looking like they may).
The sheer amount of rage over the show's title is hilarious. It was hilarious when the movie came out too. Everyone is going "if there was a show called Dear Black People there would be outrage!" like it's a double standard... but there's massive outrage over the show being called Dear White People.
Anyway, it takes a few episodes to adjust to the show after seeing a movie (most of the character arcs are "reset" so it feels like taking a step back, even though it's a sequel). The TV show cast also isn't as strong as the movie, but getting Marque Richardson back to play Reggie really pays off, especially in episode 5. I've seen a lot of people who were part of black student communities in the past few years say that it's an incredibly accurate depiction of their campus experience. And it's really nicely shot - Gabe's imaginings of Sam and Reggie's affair are particularly great.
I've seen people ITT say that the campus cop pulling a gun was unrealistic. Don't forget, this is the same country where a cop A) mistook a toy truck for a gun, B) shot at the autistic man who was playing with the toy truck, C) missed, and D) ended up shooting another unarmed guy who was several feet away instead.
Anyway, it takes a few episodes to adjust to the show after seeing a movie (most of the character arcs are "reset" so it feels like taking a step back, even though it's a sequel). The TV show cast also isn't as strong as the movie, but getting Marque Richardson back to play Reggie really pays off, especially in episode 5. I've seen a lot of people who were part of black student communities in the past few years say that it's an incredibly accurate depiction of their campus experience. And it's really nicely shot - Gabe's imaginings of Sam and Reggie's affair are particularly great.
I've seen people ITT say that the campus cop pulling a gun was unrealistic. Don't forget, this is the same country where a cop A) mistook a toy truck for a gun, B) shot at the autistic man who was playing with the toy truck, C) missed, and D) ended up shooting another unarmed guy who was several feet away instead.
PixelatedBookake
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Okay so I just started Episode 7
Absolutely loving the show btw
and I can't fucking believe Sam and Reggie fucked each other. Reggie took advantage of his situation to smash and Sam fell for the bait hook,line and sinker. I feel for Reggie after what he has been through, but using that situation to get a girl to cheat on her boyfriend is scummy as fuck. Sam isn't exempt from this either, choosing to sleep with Reggie after she heard is open mic. I think his entire motive of inviting Sam out in the first place was to do the open mic in an attempt to smash! This sucks!
Absolutely loving the show btw
shadowsdarknes
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Good show. Just finished it.
Definitely has to have a season 2. I enjoy seeing the various different perspectives of the characters.
Even though I find Coco kind of annoying, she's a smart girl and I can see why she chooses to take a different approach to the cause compared to Sam.
Definitely has to have a season 2. I enjoy seeing the various different perspectives of the characters.
Even though I find Coco kind of annoying, she's a smart girl and I can see why she chooses to take a different approach to the cause compared to Sam.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
I doubt Gabe knew the police would be armed, I doubt anyone besides the management knew that before that event happened.
when reggie said "I think I got what I needed"
Yep. Girl, Stay Woke. Don't Sleep
with other people
with people
This post is trash.
That said, I'd be very disappointed if Season 2 doesn't include one episode each from the perspective of the token Asian friend, the African/International student, Professor Nia Long, and Kurt Fletcher...
I can appreciate this
Quite awful this post is. The show's point, you have missed.
PixelatedBookake
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Just got to Episode 10.
Still feel Reggie is a corny ass nigga. He got friend-zoned and used his emotional trauma to emotionally manipulate a girl into cheating on her boyfriend. Like come on man.
Depths of Orion
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Just finished up the final episode. What a fantastic show. Just wish I didn't read through some of those imdb reviews.
Yeah
Reggie's a total douche. Dude knew Sam was in love with someone else and used the worst situation imaginable to get some ass. Then the dude has the audacity to taunt Gabe about it right to his face, jesus.
shadowsdarknes
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What are people's thoughts on Troy?
RedAssedApe
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Finished two episodes. Seems like almost every scene is filmed at UCLA. Amusing to me.
Messofanego
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He felt like a GAFer come to life hehe
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Really?
While he was certainly a bit of an asshole, I think he just legitimately liked Sam and wanted to be with her. He didn't just want to 'get some ass,' and you could tell he thought they had a relationship going after they hooked up that one night. It was pretty clear he didn't think much of Gabe and really resented that Sam was with him. So, yeah, while not an honorable dude, I think his behavior was totally justifiable form his perspective.
edit: oops, screwed up spoiler tag.
CrimsonSquall
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I find this gif hilarious in two ways. One, of course cause white tears but secondly, that's actually a hispanic girl which ig some see as one in the samewhen reggie said "I think I got what I needed"
Reggie thought he owned Sam.
It had been a couple years since they had been at school, and he had been trying to get with her, we are to assume, that entire time.
The second it turns out she is dating someone, Reggie acts as though he is already being cheated on, even though they aren't even in a relationship...
It had been a couple years since they had been at school, and he had been trying to get with her, we are to assume, that entire time.
The second it turns out she is dating someone, Reggie acts as though he is already being cheated on, even though they aren't even in a relationship...
Not as much of a dick as he would be if he was in any other show. In any other show he would probably be the snooty rich kid or arrogant jock or whatever, but in this he's just a kid caught inbetween a million things demanding his time and trying not to lose his mind. I like watching him onscreen.
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There was definitely a sense of him
thinking that their being together was a given--that it was fate or something. I didn't get the impression that he believed he owned her or could control her, but he definitely thought they belonged together. Definitely the "spurned lover" archetype, but I felt like he didn't necessarily take it to creepy territory. I don't feel like he was even exploiting his situation to get with her, either. He was mopey, sure, but he was avoiding her and the others after he had that gun pointed at him for the most part.
StopMakingSense
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Seriously, even a lot of interiors, it looked like. And those steps in the Kerckhoff Patio that I never, ever, saw anybody use as the setting for a big plot point early on (
Sam going to the Dean
Whoa hold up
Sam dated at least Troy, if not others, before Gabe. There was no depiction I can recall that Reggie acted as though "he is already being cheated on" while Sam was dating Troy.
By the way, goddam Sam, why you dating Troy when your 'best friend' Coco has a major crush on him. Sam don't play around when it comes to twisting the knife.
By the way, goddam Sam, why you dating Troy when your 'best friend' Coco has a major crush on him. Sam don't play around when it comes to twisting the knife.
Did Coco like Troy before the current school year?
I mean her episode showed her dating a bunch of rich white boys in her first/start of her second year, she started dating Troy because she thought she could get married to him since the white boys wouldn't take her home to their parents...
I mean her episode showed her dating a bunch of rich white boys in her first/start of her second year, she started dating Troy because she thought she could get married to him since the white boys wouldn't take her home to their parents...
NipplesAndToes23
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Let me weigh my opinion on Dear White People. YAAASSSSS! OH MY FUCKING GOSH! I thought the movie was okay, but the fucking series is lit! It's so unapologetically black. They upped their game on this one. The cinematography is as strong as ever, but the writing especially the dialogue, got turned up a few notches. There are a few things I still feel comes off a little too pop-culturish to me, but it's a massive improvement. Dear White People has the feeling of being a black college student. There's a strong sense of community, awkwardness, and beef on this Ivy league campus. This series' showrunner is Yvette Bowser who tookover for A Different World after the first season. If you ever wondered why the first season of A Different World was so boring and the white girl left in season 2 it was because season 1 was written by a white woman. Anywho the first episode gives a summary of the events that took place in the movie and continues from there. Sam I think is far more likeable here and only her, that dude from Everybody Hates Chris, the white guy, the dean, and the dark skin girl with the blond wig from the movie were recast. Everyone else from the movie returned. You know Tessa Thompson busy making that Marvel money now.
Spoilers here for the 1st episode.
The episode format where they switch characters each chapter is great. It gives plenty of time for each character and you get different viewpoints of the narrative. Sam is the pro-black chick who runs the radio show that the show's title get its name from. She's also biracial and speaking of that, what's with having the pro-black character being light skin most of the time in TV and movies? There's Michael from Good Times, that dude from CB4, the guy from School Daze, Freddy from A Different World.
Now I'm off track. So Lionel is a boy who is a geek and dealing with his sexuality. I can relate to him a bit. He didn't know how to identity himself and you go through a journey with him exploring himself both sexually and morally. He had an opinion I think was sort of fucked up later on, but I'll leave that to those who've seen it. If you watched Burning Sands (you should) you will recognize him as Square from it and oddly enough the character is similar. Ooh, I hope this boy won't be typecast.
You also have Troy who is the son of the dean and is the preppy swole negro. He's a member of C.O.R.E. The Coalition of Racial Equality which I think is supposed to be the image of the acceptable negroes on campus. His father provides for him, but he doesn't feel like he's loved. There is a lot of drama going on between him, the rest of the black students on campus, and politics.
You got Reggie who I like. He's a member of the black student union and is involved with the racial politics on campus along with Sam and the other girl with the braids I can't remember the name of. It's a shame I can't remember her name, but she is the only character who doesn't get an episode dedicated to her who deserves one. Reggie goes through some major shit in episodes V and VI which makes you really connect with him.
Gabe is the white guy who feels a little out of place being the white guy in an overwhelming white place in a space on campus that's majority black. I feel like I should go in detail about his character, but I think it's better if you watch it.
Dear White People deals celebrates black culture and deals with racial politics in a way that comes off as natural and significant. Now, I wanted to wrap this up, but I want to talk about the bullshit for a second.
Greater than I ever expected and the tagline at the end of episode X felt like something you would see in a movie. I eagerly await season 2.
Spoilers here for the 1st episode.
Oh my gosh, how fucking funny was that Scandal parody. The bestest shade. "I pledge allegiance to your cock". WHOO! I couldn't breathe. There's a good article about that one scene btw. Here you go. The ending of that episode was also fucking incredible. The perfect way to entice someone to watch the next episode. It takes away the decision of watching episode 2 now or later.
The episode format where they switch characters each chapter is great. It gives plenty of time for each character and you get different viewpoints of the narrative. Sam is the pro-black chick who runs the radio show that the show's title get its name from. She's also biracial and speaking of that, what's with having the pro-black character being light skin most of the time in TV and movies? There's Michael from Good Times, that dude from CB4, the guy from School Daze, Freddy from A Different World.
Now I'm off track. So Lionel is a boy who is a geek and dealing with his sexuality. I can relate to him a bit. He didn't know how to identity himself and you go through a journey with him exploring himself both sexually and morally. He had an opinion I think was sort of fucked up later on, but I'll leave that to those who've seen it. If you watched Burning Sands (you should) you will recognize him as Square from it and oddly enough the character is similar. Ooh, I hope this boy won't be typecast.
You also have Troy who is the son of the dean and is the preppy swole negro. He's a member of C.O.R.E. The Coalition of Racial Equality which I think is supposed to be the image of the acceptable negroes on campus. His father provides for him, but he doesn't feel like he's loved. There is a lot of drama going on between him, the rest of the black students on campus, and politics.
You got Reggie who I like. He's a member of the black student union and is involved with the racial politics on campus along with Sam and the other girl with the braids I can't remember the name of. It's a shame I can't remember her name, but she is the only character who doesn't get an episode dedicated to her who deserves one. Reggie goes through some major shit in episodes V and VI which makes you really connect with him.
Gabe is the white guy who feels a little out of place being the white guy in an overwhelming white place in a space on campus that's majority black. I feel like I should go in detail about his character, but I think it's better if you watch it.
And then there's Coco or Colandrea. She's also a member of CORE and has been afflicted with her black identity since childhood. I'm light skin myself so I don't have the same experience, but I know women who have had these issues. Being told that they're pretty for being a dark skin girl and I had an aunt who said she hopes her son marries a white woman so she won't have any dark skin grandbabies. She hates her name and feels it's too black so that's why she goes by Coco and felt her hair was ugly and results to weaves and wigs. That was me for a while. I would always either get my hair straightened or wear a weave for years. It wasn't until my first semester of getting my bachelor's did I start to go natural. Because of all of this she deals with she isn't often called not black enough or woke and we see her transformation throughout her college career.
Dear White People deals celebrates black culture and deals with racial politics in a way that comes off as natural and significant. Now, I wanted to wrap this up, but I want to talk about the bullshit for a second.
Oh my gosh! Gabe really called the fucking police and then Lionel, Coco, and fucking Troy trying to defend his ass on the matter. Coco said she saw black guys get shot down all the time in her hood growing up in Chi-Town and she playing like she don't know the police are full of shit especially when it comes to black people. The cop was at fault, but yes Gabe deserved all that negative attention for calling fucking 12. NO! NOOOOO!
Also they never wrapped up that plot point with Troy when someone sent him a video of him fucking the professor. Like was he about to be blackmailed? We don't know. That shit was never spoken of again. What the fuck?
Also they never wrapped up that plot point with Troy when someone sent him a video of him fucking the professor. Like was he about to be blackmailed? We don't know. That shit was never spoken of again. What the fuck?
Greater than I ever expected and the tagline at the end of episode X felt like something you would see in a movie. I eagerly await season 2.
Yeah didn't like the character much either.
Also, how you gonna talk about marrying a dark queen with Joelle standing right there yet continue to pine over the taken light skinned mixed girl? I was side eyeing him all through out ep5 until the party incident.
Yes
Troy was
being blackmailed by Kurt, the President's son/the editor of the Pastiche magazine. It was briefly hinted at but they are probably saving that plot thread for next season
NipplesAndToes23
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I'm bout to watch this for a third time.
there are white hispanics
He was just fuckin around with that dark, nubian queen shit
NipplesAndToes23
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Oh thank you for clearing that up. I hope it's brought up too for season 2.
I know right?
100% hotep nigga, I can sense it in my bones.
PixelatedBookake
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I agree it was a dumb move, but
considering his white background in which communities could rely on the police to solve issues and not point guns at people for no reason, I get it. I feel like it wasn't an ill-intentioned decision, but was an important moment for his character and I felt, post incident, he learned from his mistake.
Binged this. I liked it, really entertaining. American campuses in general are a pretty unknown world to me and I knew even less about the black communities within them. I liked the focus on a character per episode, the different ideologies and how they interacted with each other. I hated Gabe though, they said he made Sam smile, I didn't see anything about him that would make anyone smile. He was lame.
That he didn't look 20 years old
That he didn't look 20 years old
Nah, not 100% maybe like 60%
Kain-Nosgoth
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okay, small question about episode 5!
Excuse my ignorant white ass (and i'm not from america)
Excuse my ignorant white ass (and i'm not from america)
is it really bad to say the N-word when you just sing along a song? It seems a little extreme to me
Puck Beaverton
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we truly live the best of both worlds
DrForester
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And I'm done. Great show.
How the hell did he get away with getting that tattoo?
How the hell did he get away with getting that tattoo?
Messofanego
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Just don't.
Try This Instead: Don't Say The N Word: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ou1hGn_ldMU
The N-Word "Double Standard": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LK-j8ZED44
Finished this last night. Found below in episode 10 to be powerful.
I liked all the characters, but it was less that they were believeable, and more that they all allowed certain ideas/issues to be eloquently expressed.
My favorite character was probably
This show made me think about (and hopefully understand better?) American culture and racism a lot more (as a White Canadian from the Surrey, Canada living in Japan for 10+ years).
[When the cops go after Troy, one pulls a gun for a split second and Troy's dad yells "he's my son!" over and over again
I liked all the characters, but it was less that they were believeable, and more that they all allowed certain ideas/issues to be eloquently expressed.
My favorite character was probably
little reporter dude (sorry forgot name), because despite being so shy and so awkward, he is the guy making monumental steps against a system with great effect.
This show made me think about (and hopefully understand better?) American culture and racism a lot more (as a White Canadian from the Surrey, Canada living in Japan for 10+ years).
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