DrROBschiz
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Better Devils is easily my favorite gun in the game at this moment but i should bust out Nameless Midnight
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Destiny 2 |OT2| Leviathan Wakes (Spoiler Tag ALL Raid Discussion)
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Better Devils is easily my favorite gun in the game at this moment but i should bust out Nameless Midnight
Cornbread78
Member
I love the Conspirator, but I haven't seen many people talking about it so maybe it's just me.
Yeah thats a weird complaint to me. I can see if weapons in general feel a bit worse but I think scouts are the best of the bunch right now.
TheCanisDirus
Member
Have that as half Jiangshi AR4... as i actually prefer the less popular Jiangshi for it's hip-fire perk, faster reload and increased stability. Same gun more or less though.
Dthomp
Member
Gotta say after playing a bunch of PVP and watching some streamers and tubers I gotta agree that if this stays 4x4 this game will not last in the PVP realm. Quickplay is sweaty, Comp is sweaty and trials is super sweaty. They need to adapt and quick with so many multiplayer games on the horizon it would be nice for bungie to actually communicate with the playerbase on ideas and whats to come before there isn't a playerbase to care
Most of your list appears on here, but there are a number I have enjoyed you can try out if you're just looking for some new stuff http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=249240464&postcount=6152
The Hunter exotic Foetracer can marker targeted enemies while aiming down sights, even when invisible.
Yea, unfortunately, this is probably true. I was hoping we would get past that crap, as I literally played D1 and the 2 big expansions for 1-2 months after release than stopped, so was hoping D2 would last longer for me but I don't think that's going to be the case. Shame because I really like D2 more than anything in D1 (TTK being very close), the foundation is there but the execution isn't/wasn't. Now I'm on the fence with buying the DLC..
TheCanisDirus
Member
I was just referring to rifles in that post. I agree regarding Better Devils though. That The Old Fashioned, Sunshot and Annual Skate all rock hard.
DrROBschiz
Member
I dunno
maybe in PVP but man scouts were my most used weapon in D1 and im not feeling em in D2
i need to figure this out
Even when I ran around with MIDA i ended up liking the mini tool more for PvE and PVP dps
Maybe i should be using them different than i used to
I'm actually really looking forward to doing it again on PC. Everything is going to look so damn good...plus there's essentially no loading times with an SSD. All fighting encounters at 100+ FPS with G Sync...what's not to love?
MastAndo
Member
I find Vigilance Wing to work really well in PvP. I mean, I dominated a good 10 games in quick play last night, basically killing everything in sight, and I'm at best a mediocre PvP guy. Between the 5-round burst and the perks you get for fireteam deaths, I think the weapon had a lot to do with my playing well. Granted, I think the SBMM kicked in or something and I get stomped the next few games, but still...
Jest Chillin
Member
There was no special Hawkmoon hype outside of the fact it was an exotic. The moment people played with it, they wrote it off because it was hard to use. "Day 1" Destiny was all AR's all the time. Suros was the coveted gun. And I'm not talking about "the community here," I'm talking the community in general. Especially since there are no walled garden communities when it comes to what gear is good.
And people love the hell out of the MIDA in D2. Which is what's leading to others hating it. lol.
"More interesting" is subjective. So far I'm still intrigued by the gear available and I'm especially curious about what I builds I can make with once I start messing with mods.
But if you're looking for Borderlands but made by Bungie, you're going to be disappointed. Just like the folks looking for Warframe but made by Bungie. This isn't those games and it shouldn't necessarily be more like those games.
Call to Serve, Does Not Compute, Tone Patrol, and though I haven't used it, Nameless Midnight are all solid feeling and damaging Scouts. Mida doesn't hit too hard but it's steady, fast firing and has HCR so it staggers enemies.
So, tether is the go to for the raid? I have the pants that work with that, and do dig invisibility.
So weirded out by lucky pants and the half second of auto aim they give you
That's just a PvP mode that's already in the game; which will be the TotN this and next weekend.
DrROBschiz
Member
I must be going crazy cuz i was using scouts till i scored better devils and my gameplay experience improved immediately
Spaaaaaaaaace
Member
Anyone want to try nightfall on ps4?
I do, but won't get home from work until 5ish EST. Been looking for a group high enough to do it. I'm just over 300.
TheCanisDirus
Member
Havent been lucky enough for a VW roll yet. Def have my eye on it though! I do love GL... but it needs a buff.
But Namless midnight is currently the best weapon in PVE too. So in both PvE and PvP scout's dominate.
DrROBschiz
Member
Im gonna play around with my scouts again when i play tonight and figure out whats up
Twilight Gap
Member
I have Nameless Midnight and I can't stand how slow it fires. The explosive rounds were cool, but then I have to use DPS in my energy slot and I don't feel like wasting that on an auto rifle.
Dhruv_hanom
Member
Does not compute
TheCanisDirus
Member
Not even remotely close. Gross.
DrROBschiz
Member
See i knew i wasnt the only one
Something is off with scouts man im telling ya
im gonna do some comparisons tonight
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Jest Chillin
Member
You're not crazy. Better Devils is seriously that good. Bad News is pretty solid too. As someone that had the Y2 "Godroll" Hung Jury and used it all throughout D1... There are good scouts in this game. They don't quite have the same explosiveness (pun intended) but they're good.
The amount of problems they could solve by balancing PvE and PvP separate is crazy, and actually, makes me mad to even think about it because they'll never do it..
I think you're forgetting that Suros was sold by Xur fairly early...while Hawkmoon wasn't in his loot table due to being a console exclusive.
Suros was at the top early, for sure, but for many of the more PVP oriented players (like myself) they saw early how great exotic HCs could be due to TLW outperforming Suros in close quarters and being a shotgun counter. Then people found out about Hawkmoon's 2 tap potential and it was pretty highly coveted.
I've never heard of anyone claiming that Hawkmoon was "hard to use", but again I spent more time on the Crucible Playbook sub than DTG like most folks. That being said - people "writing off"" Hawkmoon is not something I've ever read anywhere.
I see most of your posts here are in defense of the game, which is fine (I'm enjoying it too), but as many others have commented on thus far - it seems like Destiny is a loot based game that's going to have a loot problem pretty damn early after it's release.
VincentMatts
Member
So are they gonna change up how the adventures and loot caves play out or is that always gonna be the same?
Twilight Gap
Member
Well the thing I don't like about most of Destiny's weapons, especially Scout Rifles, is that the reticles aren't static. If someone shoots you to the side, or with high caliber rounds, all of a sudden you can't aim straight anymore. It makes scout combat in particular obnoxious. Like, Hand Cannon duels were sick (unless the other person had a stupid luck in the chamber perk on it) because you could strafe in between aiming, shoot from the hip, or jump around. But you get in a Mida vs Mida duel and it's a crapshoot because your bullets aren't even going in the center of the gun anymore, and you have to stay on the ground and ADS.
That's not really a thing in PvE, but I'm just not a fan of the cadence of the slow firing archetype. All of the Hakke weapons just don't feel natural to use.
TheCanisDirus
Member
Havent even seen one yet. Or the Sentencer IV
DrROBschiz
Member
Take tone patrol
Solid energy scout with a good sight and good fire rate... that I cant take advantage of
The recoil is so bad that the reticule bounces like crazy. So i cant fire consecutively like I used to with Suros scouts meaning that i have to pepper shots slow and deliberately as if i was using Call to Serve. I might as well use that since it fires slow enough anyways and hits harder
I used to be able to use scouts like bread and butter high tension weapons but maybe thats the big change from D1 to D2
You have to hang back and suedo snipe. While with better devils i can straight up brawl at multiple ranges.
But ill be fair and bust out nameless midnight and see how it compares
TheCanisDirus
Member
I really dont understand this. Why is this still a thing... balancing PvE&PvP together? They MUST do this eventually or make only certain weapons playable/usable in the crucible and give us some crazy, cool shit for PvE only. It really zaps the fun out of PvE.
Prosecutor
Good for both.
They need to but it remains to be seen if they actually will or not. By the time you hit endgame they're both pretty useless for the most part.
lionelhutz
Member
Not a fan of HC in PVP or PVE in D2. They were my favorite weapon in D1 so it's a bit of a bummer. They're definitely missing something.
I'm finding the SR/AR combo to work well just about everywhere.
For me it is
raid spoilers:
Dogs, you'll usually be solo'ing your dog. Tether + Voidwall/Vortex grenades is almost a one shot on your dog at 48x stacks. I guess you could do Golden Gun here too.
Baths, tether helps the team w/ dpsing the purple chain when dps phase start
Gauntlet, only 1 hard enemy here, tether helps make orbs for team
Last Boss - Tether increases everyone's dps for a few seconds. I can see an arguement for 3x Golden Gun shot here, as you'll do lots of dmg and produce 6 orbs if you hit all crits
Baths, tether helps the team w/ dpsing the purple chain when dps phase start
Gauntlet, only 1 hard enemy here, tether helps make orbs for team
Last Boss - Tether increases everyone's dps for a few seconds. I can see an arguement for 3x Golden Gun shot here, as you'll do lots of dmg and produce 6 orbs if you hit all crits
jadedm17
Member
I just spent 20 minutes killing enemies with a sword that had no ammo; I can't figure out how so many people decided to power-level through a game so full of random things to do.
To each their own I guess.
Sunshot has done me well pve but targets explode in solar energy is what makes it. Generally I've found them lackluster in pvp and pve which is dissapointing.
To each their own I guess.
Sunshot has done me well pve but targets explode in solar energy is what makes it. Generally I've found them lackluster in pvp and pve which is dissapointing.
Twilight Gap
Member
i reckon not many people appreciably play destiny for the little things. i sat in the trostland fighting the cabal vs fallen war for hours last week.
f@luS
More than a member.
Going to work now so maybe tomorrow ?(its night for me - and work time )
Yea these are like D1 blue armor tier; not sure what happened.
There's like 2 or 3 pretty good ones, the rest nah.
Quickfang, Stomp-EE5s, Way of the Trapper is basically my favorite playstyle so far, and you can indeed continue to hold your own with no ammo. Swapping quickly out of sword for the wombo combo and back takes some practice and is stupid fun too.
Omegasquash
Member
Picked up Dune Marchers (Titan Exotic legs) last night, but haven't had the chance to play with them yet.
Should I sacrifice my Actium to wear those, or just keep firing auto rifles non-stop?
Should I sacrifice my Actium to wear those, or just keep firing auto rifles non-stop?
What an awful post. Orthrus has basically been my go to heavy on everyone of my characters. Just because you're bad with GL doesn't mean they're useless.
It's literally the pro pipe from Reach with a different skin.