Mhm? That's the click-in on the sticks
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Mhm? That's the click-in on the sticks
Graphics Horse
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But how will you start a game if there's no start button?
And how will you select which game mode to play if there's no select button?
CrunchinJelly
formerly cjelly
It's the name given to the analogue stick clicks.
They can? They do on the PS2/PS3.
Ah ok. Sorry.
"Press Option to Start" doesn't have the same ring to it.
Because then they would be analogue buttons.
0 or 1 Two states. Analogue in comparision is range of 1 to 0 (with 0,4 0,2 etc).
Boss Man
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Heavy analog control still uses the face buttons quite a lot. In shooters specifically, I don't want to make that downward reach to reload, switch weapons, or jump. It is just completely unnatural.
I've held all of these controllers a lot (I'm sure you have too), and there is absolutely no difference in the movement of the sticks related to position (concavity helps though). There may be if the DS3 or 360 pad were configured so that your thumbs have to reach downward, but they aren't.
I wish I had a way to take pictures of my hands holding these controllers to demonstrate, because once you really evaluate it you see what I'm talking about. For instance, the DS3 actually puts your thumbs more towards an upward-middle position than a downwards one, but the controller doesn't obviously show that.
Either way, it's not some glaring issue. As I said before I actually like the Wii U's Pro controller, but the stick positions should absolutely not be imitated.
Fatal Futanari
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Graphics Horse
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Anything sounds better than 'Press Start to Start'. But Press X to start would be more likely.
Liquid_Bike
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Damn, what movie is this from I can't quite place it?
Edit: some one already said: Equilibrium.
Ugh, whatever. Just show me the games.Or so it appears. Via Ashler in the VG247 thread.
http://www.destructoid.com/what-the-hell-is-this-the-new-playstation-controller--244985.phtml
Things to note - this very likely isn't a final design even if it represents final functionality. Sony has been experimenting with various prototypes, apparently.
edit - a brightened view via Beermeister
edit 2 - infinityBCRT suggests looking at the black rectangles either side of the dev kit. Suggests they might be camera lenses, providing the functionality of the rumoured stereo depth camera?
Oh I see.
But the PS2/PS3 controller buttons are pressure based, aren't they? Obviously they aren't directly measuring it, but it's still approximated.
Press start to start is lamest thing in gaming ever. It should go away because there is no reason for pressing start to see menu.
Equilibrium. You should check it out.
Having the touchpad be able to distinguish a 'click' from a finger just sliding across the surface sounds ace. That'll make it possible to have an on-screen cursor tracking the finger position on screen before the user clicks.
Explains why they don't think they need a screen on it.
Explains why they don't think they need a screen on it.
Yes, so they are analog buttons.
Gamespawn
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beatin
Betta Lines
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It's not much different? Layout is the same, d-pad looks improved. If you're talking about pure aesthetics, then you're probably jumping the gun there. It will look considerably slicker in the final version.
That is how analogue works. It's pressure sensitive without it there would be no 0,2 or 0,3 states.
Yes they are.
Then explain how it works.
I click the touchpad!
Yep, 'Press any button' is the future
Tiago Leite
Member
That's it?
Graphics Horse
Member
They are not digital buttons, they are analog buttons. That's how they measure pressure.
Melchiah
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Impossible to do all the tricks in PS2's SSX without pressing three or four shoulder buttons simultaneously. It also works well with fast-paced games; ME3 MP - shoot & use powers together, WipEout HD - use picked items & brake together (depending on how you map the controls, I use to map the thrust on X). The gameplay would change drastically if you could use the L2 & R2 triggers only with the index fingers.
EDIT: SSX tricks - Elise:
dukeoflegs
Member
Yeah they are. MGS2 uses pressure buttons as well as GT3-5
Edit: People explained it better than I could.
Tiago Leite
Member
Sorry DP.
I've always seen them referred to as digital buttons, I didn't think I had ever seen them referred to as analog.
Edit: Wait, I see what I have misunderstood. Thank you.
Either my perspective skills suck, or it's quite a bit larger. Measured buttons and stick gate.
It's larger and bulkier.
ReturnOfTheRAT
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Winner
Silly.Mikey
Banned
Same feeling here. It looks like a third party controller overall. Ugly.
Yeah, I wasn't paying enough attention, and meant "No they are not digital."
Betta Lines
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Face buttons still slightly higher priority, imo. But the left side works for me.
This will challenge anyone to play.
velociraptor
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Equilibrium.
Wow fella. So much nonsense in this thread as usual.
Infinite Justice
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The Faceless Master
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how many shooters have select as 'check scoreboard' and start as 'options menu' in-game?
civilstrife
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So the blue light at the top is like the light on the Move, right? I'm guessing for location tracking?