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[WillyFive]

I have man hands.
The space gives me room to not mistakenly hit a different direction on the pad.

From my experience, you'd have to push down the button for it to register, otherwise the thumb would just rest on the button. Maybe you had a Dual Shock with a weak D-Pad?

 

[Boss Man]

The part that goes under the top half of the device, where the analog sticks are now. The thumbs will also reach the D-Pad and face buttons. A natural configuration for games that require the use of the analog sticks a lot. What would be backwards would be if both sticks were, let's say, the bottom of the device.

It is harder to move your thumbs down from their natural position than it is to move them up. Unless my thumbs are just unique or something. From any position on this 'plane' the movement of the actual sticks is unchanged. The problem is in reaching for the face buttons, which that configuration makes more difficult because of the way thumbs work.

 

[spekkeh]

Bros do you even lift.

 

[Reallink]

Love that they're actually adding new features (move tracking and touchpad) and not just shipping the same old PS1/PS2/PS3 dual shock. 16 years was plenty long for that shit.

 

[DrPirate]

I thought Share was axed? What's the deal with this? I hope it's not it sounded cool.

As far as everyone internally is concerned, that feature is still a go. I wonder who started that rumour about Share being cut.

 

[Perkel]

it says the share button cannot be programmed by the developer. the options button might be one of select or start, but the share button cannot be either of them.

My line of thought is that they removed start/select idea. "Options" will be new "Start" and select will be probably changed to touchpad and expanded.

 

[lenovox1]

It is harder to move your thumbs down from their natural position than it is to move them up. Unless my thumbs are just unique or something. From any position on this 'plane' the movement of the actual sticks is unchanged. The problem is in reaching for the face buttons, which that configuration makes more difficult because of the way thumbs work.

Neither one is "hard," y'all, or ergonomic. Quit tripping you two.

 

[btkadams]

My line of thought is that they removed start/select idea. "Options" will be new "Start" and select will be probably changed to touchpad and expanded.

sounds reasonable to me! that's what i'm thinking too.

 

[ibun]

From VGLEAKS:

ORBIS Controller Features:

- Digital Buttons:

• Directional buttons
• Triangle, Circle, Cross and Square
• L1, L2 and L3
• R1, R2 and R3
• OPTIONS
• SHARE (reserved for the system and cannot be accesed by the application)
• Touchpad clicks
• PS (reserved for the system and cannot be accesed by the application)

Analog Buttons:

• L2
• R2

- Sticks:

• Left
• Right

- Touchpad:

• Two-point multi-touch (with mechanical click)
• ORBIS Controller has an electrical capacitance touchpad where the position at wich the user’s finger is touching the pad can be detected. At most, two points can be detected at the same time.

- Motion sensors:

• 3-axes gyro sensor
• 3-axes velocity sensor

- Vibration feature:

• Large motor
• small motor

- Light bar:

• RGB LED (reserved for the system and cannot be accesed by the application)

share and option the new select and pause...

 

[WillyFive]

It is harder to move your thumbs down from their natural position than it is to move them up.

Which is why it's harder to play games that require heavy use of analog control on the Dual Shock. It's extra work.

Nintendo's design is incorrect for their games, in my opinion, since I don't see them making a lot of games that require heavy analog control (like shooters) and third parties certainly aren't going to make any for the Wii U; but that configuration would be very natural for the PS4 or Xbox.

 

[Borman]

Here are some shots of the Playstation 3's Prototype Controller, for reference.

 

[Gravijah]

Love that they're actually adding new features (move tracking and touchpad) and not just shipping the same old PS1/PS2/PS3 dual shock. 16 years was plenty long for that shit.

Sixaxis was added on the DS3/Sixaxis & the DS2 had pressure sensitive buttons.

 

[StuBurns]

You should be able to use a DS3 for BC/ PS2 classics etc. But I'm not surprised as hardly any games use them.

Yeah, literally there's only MGS2/3 that use it I care about, and I wouldn't go back to playing PS2 versions if they even sold them on the store, so personally, I guess it has no value.

If it allows for a crisper button response, such as on the Vita though, it's a clear improvement.

 

[gutter_trash]

does anyone use the select button for anything besides freaking Codec in MGS games?

 

[eso76]

Looks alright.
I was hoping it would be a little different from the DS3 (1 and 2 ), but it seems to solve one problem I had with it.

The dual shock always had thin "handles", these look thicker and a little curvier, so I'm sure that part will feel better. Body is a little too wide to accomodate the touch pad, though maybe

 

[t00t]

From VGLEAKS:

ORBIS Controller Features:

- Digital Buttons:

• Directional buttons
• Triangle, Circle, Cross and Square
• L1, L2 and L3
• R1, R2 and R3
• OPTIONS
• SHARE (reserved for the system and cannot be accesed by the application)
• Touchpad clicks
• PS (reserved for the system and cannot be accesed by the application)

Analog Buttons:

• L2
• R2

- Sticks:

• Left
• Right

- Touchpad:

• Two-point multi-touch (with mechanical click)
• ORBIS Controller has an electrical capacitance touchpad where the position at wich the user’s finger is touching the pad can be detected. At most, two points can be detected at the same time.

- Motion sensors:

• 3-axes gyro sensor
• 3-axes velocity sensor

- Vibration feature:

• Large motor
• small motor

- Light bar:

• RGB LED (reserved for the system and cannot be accesed by the application)

No info on mic or jack

Interesting!

 

[Perkel]

Start/select/PS Button was already redundant idea in many places.

 

[Boss Man]

Either one is "hard," y'all, or ergonomic. Quit tripping you two.

I'm not saying that it's impossible or doesn't work, just that it doesn't feel as good to reach down for face buttons as it does to reach up for them. I just don't want to see the weird top stick thing become common.

 

[DemonNite]

Payback Time

or youtube if you prefer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sr1Mfd4I7mI

 

[StuBurns]

does anyone use the select button for anything besides freaking Codec in MGS games?

It's used directly for maps in most games I think, I'm playing Darksiders at the moment, for example, and it does it. Then again, who even looks at level maps?

 

[Gravijah]

It's used directly for maps in most games I think, I'm playing Darksiders at the moment, for example, and it does it. Then again, who even looks at level maps?

Me, obsessively. But generally in games I play it's tied to square or triangle.

 

[Thamauturge]

Hopefully it looks better when its actually released and polished. Love the PS3-2-1 controller, not crazy about those ugly analogue sticks.

 

[VGChampion]

Here are some shots of the Playstation 3's Prototype Controller, for reference.

Eh, I can't really compare the two considering PS3 had a different controller until the annoying fan backlash.

 

[amar212]

does anyone use the select button for anything besides freaking Codec in MGS games?

Changing cameras in Gran Turismo 5?

Game never remembers your desired camera between gaming sessions, so you always have to cycle if you want to drive from camera other then bumper on the initial boot.

That and Codec basically.

 

[drizzle]

Payback Time

or youtube if you prefer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sr1Mfd4I7mI

What movie is that? Looks like something I'd like to watch.

 

[Drencrom]

From VGLEAKS:

ORBIS Controller Features:

- Digital Buttons:

• Directional buttons
• Triangle, Circle, Cross and Square
• L1, L2 and L3
• R1, R2 and R3
• OPTIONS
• SHARE (reserved for the system and cannot be accesed by the application)
• Touchpad clicks
• PS (reserved for the system and cannot be accesed by the application)

The dream is still alive

Payback Time

or youtube if you prefer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sr1Mfd4I7mI

Woah

 

[Graphics Horse]

Goddam DemonNite.

What movie is that? Looks like something I'd like to watch.

Equilibrium.

Changing cameras in Gran Turismo 5?

Game never remembers your desired camera between gaming sessions, so you always have to cycle if you want to drive from camera other then bumper on the initial boot.

WAT? I don't have that problem.. Besides I have select bring up the live assist menu.

 

[Commanche Raisin Toast]

There is a small square button northeast of the dpad without a label. Has this been mentioned?

 

[elcapitan]

DemonNite *bow*

 

[lenovox1]

Me, obsessively. But generally in games I play it's tied to square or triangle.

When it's not, the developer can simply use the touchpad click for the new controller.

 

[Gravijah]

Can we stop the Hirai meme? Enough gaming executives have been ruined by such silly crap.

When it's not, the developer can simply use the touchpad click for the new controller.

Yes, I can't say I personally mind if they are removed.

 

[dukeoflegs]

From VGLEAKS:

ORBIS Controller Features:

- Digital Buttons:

• Directional buttons
• Triangle, Circle, Cross and Square
• L1, L2 and L3
• R1, R2 and R3
• OPTIONS
• SHARE (reserved for the system and cannot be accesed by the application)
• Touchpad clicks
• PS (reserved for the system and cannot be accesed by the application)

Analog Buttons:

• L2
• R2

- Sticks:

• Left
• Right

- Touchpad:

• Two-point multi-touch (with mechanical click)
• ORBIS Controller has an electrical capacitance touchpad where the position at wich the user’s finger is touching the pad can be detected. At most, two points can be detected at the same time.

- Motion sensors:

• 3-axes gyro sensor
• 3-axes velocity sensor

- Vibration feature:

• Large motor
• small motor

- Light bar:

• RGB LED (reserved for the system and cannot be accesed by the application)

No info on mic or jack

Triangle, Circle, Cross and Square as digital buttons is a step back in controller design. The face buttons have been pressure sensitive/analog buttons since PS2.
Go play GT5 or MGS2 HD and you can use those buttons with slight pressure to full pressure

 

[DieH@rd]

From VGLEAKS:

ORBIS Controller Features:

- Digital Buttons:

• Directional buttons
• Triangle, Circle, Cross and Square
• L1, L2 and L3
• R1, R2 and R3
• OPTIONS <<<<< no more Start button?
• SHARE (reserved for the system and cannot be accesed by the application)
• Touchpad clicks
• PS (reserved for the system and cannot be accesed by the application)

Analog Buttons:

• L2
• R2

- Sticks:

• Left
• Right

- Touchpad:

• Two-point multi-touch (with mechanical click)
• ORBIS Controller has an electrical capacitance touchpad where the position at wich the user’s finger is touching the pad can be detected. At most, two points can be detected at the same time.

- Motion sensors:

• 3-axes gyro sensor
• 3-axes velocity sensor

- Vibration feature:

• Large motor
• small motor

- Light bar:

• RGB LED (reserved for the system and cannot be accesed by the application)

No info on mic or jack

They will eliminate Start button?

 

[StuBurns]

Equilibrium looks like a Matrix parody.

 

[Perkel]

What movie is that? Looks like something I'd like to watch.

Equilibrium


Awesome film. And this thing is GUN KATA. Nothing can be more awesome than that.

They will eliminate Start button?

Looks like it.

 

[Frosted]

What movie is that? Looks like something I'd like to watch.

Equilibrium

 

[Psychotext]

Equilibrium looks like a Matrix parody.

It's better.

 

[IonicSnake]

Payback Time

or youtube if you prefer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sr1Mfd4I7mI

Hahahaha! You sir, are brilliant!

 

[EvB]

Awesome film. And this thing is GUN KATA. Nothing can be more awesome than that.

You might think that until you watch Ultraviolet and puke your eyes out at how awful it is.

 

[Midas]

Dont you use select in Uncharted too?

 

[velociraptor]

Or so it appears. Via Ashler in the VG247 thread.

http://www.destructoid.com/what-the-hell-is-this-the-new-playstation-controller--244985.phtml



Things to note - this very likely isn't a final design even if it represents final functionality. Sony has been experimenting with various prototypes, apparently.

edit - a brightened view via Beermeister

edit 2 - infinityBCRT suggests looking at the black rectangles either side of the dev kit. Suggests they might be camera lenses, providing the functionality of the rumoured stereo depth camera?

Wow, this looks fucking atrocious.

I'd rather they keep the exact same design as DS3 as opposed to this crap.

 

[alr1ght]

Since when do you ever have to use LB/LT or RB/RT at the same time in DmC? You know why there are 2 dodge buttons right?

Well Demon Evade is marked as RT+RB. I tried it out and RT+LB works. Still, it hamstrings other games.

 

[Izick]

Since the other poster reminded me to ask, what movie is this gif from? Equilibrium as well?

 

[IonicSnake]

Since the other poster reminded me to ask, what movie is this gif from? Equilibrium as well?

Mission Impossible, not sure which one though.

 

[BadAss2961]

Since the other poster reminded me to ask, what movie is this gif from? Equilibrium as well?

Mission Impossible 2

 

[waypoetic]

They will eliminate Start button?

 

[ekim]

What? L3/R3 ????

 

[Perkel]

You might think that until you watch Ultraviolet and puke your eyes out at how awful it is.

I was joking. Gun Kata things didn't really resonate with me well. But story is v.good and hardly matrix at all.

 

[Izick]

Mission Impossible 2

I can only hope the actual scene is anywhere near as amazing as the gif.

What? L3/R3 ????

The clickable sticks.

 

[MrNyarlathotep]

Equilibrium looks like a Matrix parody.

Hey, come on now.

It's a rip off of Fahrenheit 451 as well.