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[Boss Man]

0 or 1 Two states. Analogue in comparision is range of 1 to 0 (with 0,4 0,2 etc).

This isn't really correct. Digital and binary are not the same thing. Digital is defined by discrete states so 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, etc are fine. Think of it like the difference between a digital clock that changes its numbers each minute or hour, and a Rolex watch that is constantly moving (or your car's speedometer). Digital ticks in predefined intervals, analog glides along in a continuous motion.

Mathematically I guess you could think of it like the difference between using your fingers to count integers (digital) and trying to count real numbers (analog).

 

[KalBalboa]

Mission Impossible 2

Off topic, but by far the worst one. 3 & 4 are gems, though.

 

[Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew]

3D Cameras aka PS Kinect.

 

[Exentryk]

Hm, no mention of START/SELECT, possibly so?

Visible on the prototype

 

[sangreal]

those look more like screw covers than buttons

 

[tipoo]

The picture was funny, now would a hundred people not quote it please. We saw it.

 

[Infinite Justice]

Off topic, but by far the worst one. 3 & 4 are gems, though.

i just loved the action scenes since it was John Woo lol


As for the controller, will wait until the 20th to see what slight adjustments they do for release.

 

[Graphics Horse]

Visible on the prototype

No... I mean they're renamed to OPTIONS + SHARE. Unless you can make out some writing there. VG Leaks had a huge list of inputs with OPTIONS and SHARE, but no mention of START/SELECT.

 

[Man]

3D Cameras aka PS Kinect.

Nah. 'Just' two HD cameras. Those two extra bulbs are just led indicators.

 

[Reiko]

Looks good.

 

[daveo42]

So the blue light at the top is like the light on the Move, right? I'm guessing for location tracking?

Possible, but if teh VGLeaks info is correct, then don't devs have access to change the color on the current move controllers? Why take that away?

From VGLEAKS:


- Light bar:

• RGB LED (reserved for the system and cannot be accesed by the application)

 

[mclem]

edit 2 - infinityBCRT suggests looking at the black rectangles either side of the dev kit. Suggests they might be camera lenses, providing the functionality of the rumoured stereo depth camera?

It strikes me as extremely limiting to have them attached to a dev unit. Means you can't tuck the unit away at the back. Would make more sense if that *was* the case for them to be attached to a separate body.

 

[Graphics Horse]

Nah. 'Just' two HD cameras. Those two extra bulbs are just led indicators.

Hm, could that be why there seems to be a glass panel extending onto the back of the controller above the touch screen, Wii like I/R camera? Seems a bit pointless if they have a decent MOVE setup in there too.

 

[jimmythepage]

slide to start game

it's watching...inside of my soul...


I like the speakers in the controller, it's something I've always wanted from the wiimote

 

[alr1ght]

3D Cameras aka PS Kinect.

 

[Betta Lines]

Either my perspective skills suck, or it's quite a bit larger. Measured buttons and stick gate.

I think you've exaggerated the perspective on your overlay a tad.

This one has no perspective applied, and yet seems like a more reasonable comparison:

Considering the small size of the DS3 controller, the rumoured PS4 controller doesn't seem big at all.

It's certainly a bit bigger, but not by all that much.

 

[Norml]

Either my perspective skills suck, or it's quite a bit larger. Measured buttons and stick gate.

This looks great to me!

 

[Jotamide]

Controller needs to lose some weight.

This.

 

[AndyD]

0 or 1 Two states. Analogue in comparision is range of 1 to 0 (with 0,4 0,2 etc).

This isn't really correct. Digital and binary are not the same thing. Digital is defined by discrete states so 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, etc are fine. Think of it like the difference between a digital clock that changes its numbers each minute or hour, and a Rolex watch that is constantly moving (or your car's speedometer). Digital ticks in predefined intervals, analog glides along in a continuous motion.

Mathematically I guess you could think of it like the difference between using your fingers to count integers (digital) and trying to count real numbers (analog).

For gaming purposes though digital is 1s and 0s only and analog is the range 0 to 1 with say 10 or 100 or 1000 degrees of variety based on the sensitivity implemented.

I do like the capabilities, but I hope that's a mic and not a speaker, or both. Although the speaker could work for voice chat , same way as a cellphone speakerphone. One less item to have in the living room and buy as an accessory and better than having voice chat coming through the surround speakers., which is highly obnoxious.

 

[Portugeezer]

Either my perspective skills suck, or it's quite a bit larger. Measured buttons and stick gate.

PS4 controller looks great.

 

[Loxley]

32 pages in one day over a controller prototype, let it never be said that we are not a passionate bunch

 

[alr1ght]

I think you've exaggerated the perspective on your overlay a tad.

This one has no perspective applied, and yet seems like a more reasonable comparison:

I attempted to match the stick angles/shadows and they seem to match up reasonably well. Maybe it is quite a bit larger.

32 pages in one day over a controller prototype, let it never be said that we are not a passionate bunch

32 pages in 4 hours

 

[Allonym]

It's better.

Fuck out lol. Yea, its better than Reloaded but not Revolution and most certainly not the original Matrix which is one of the best films ever crafted

 

[Perkel]

This isn't really correct. Digital and binary are not the same thing. Digital is defined by discrete states so 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, etc are fine. Think of it like the difference between a digital clock that changes its numbers each minute or hour, and a Rolex watch that is constantly moving (or your car's speedometer). Digital ticks in predefined intervals, analog glides along in a continuous motion.

Mathematically I guess you could think of it like the difference between using your fingers to count integers (digital) and trying to count real numbers (analog).

I know. But there is no better explanation for people who don't know much about tech.

Same with 0,3 or 3. Just example to better explain people what this is all about.

 

[Raist]

Either my perspective skills suck, or it's quite a bit larger. Measured buttons and stick gate.

It looks rather obviously wider, judging by the space between the 2 analogue sticks (I mean even without a morph gif).

 

[lenovox1]

I attempted to match the stick angles/shadows and they seem to match up reasonably well. Maybe it is quite a bit larger.

The DualShock 3 is not that tiny compared to a USB plug.

 

[CaptainTiptop]

32 pages in one day over a controller prototype, let it never be said that we are not a passionate bunch

Just imagine the 20th.

 

[Astral/H3X]

Of course it's going to be wider. There's a touchpad. What, you want a reeeaaallllyyy tiny one or something?

Digital buttons? Oh thank god. DS3 buttons are mushy to me. Then again so are Xbox ones. There's always classic controller...

 

[AndyD]

Just imagine the 20th.

I imagine there will be a GAF outage. Some 404 hours,

 

[Norml]

This.

It looks near perfect in thickness and length.I'm actually kinda of surprised it looks that good.

 

[GoldPunch]

looks very heavy. But ı think, better.

 

[jett]

Why would the 3D cameras be built into the devkit? That doesn't make any sense.

 

[Alx]

Although I cannot think of anything else, I'm still not convinced that those are cameras. Did they remove the optics ? What is the second "hole" for, it looks like it would be occluded by the central "hole", so it cannot be an emitter...
Maybe you're supposed to plug something in there ?

 

[iceatcs]

I have adjusted this to make it more level, with compare same scale DS3.

 

[SonnyBoy]

I really wanted offset sticks. Please Sony, at least give us the option!

 

[Hero]

Seriously going with that d-pad/left analog stick layout for a 4th generation in a row, Sony? Come the fuck on.

 

[MechaZain]

Happiness over a touchpad on the Dualshock but GAF nearly burned the house down over Kinect being included on Xbox.

Begun, the console wars has.

 

[Uno Venova]

Seriously going with that d-pad/left analog stick layout for a 4th generation in a row, Sony? Come the fuck on.

Yeah. why change so much on PS fans?

 

[rouken]

it kinda looks heavy, i want to see the backside of the controller.

 

[Pimpbaa]

Seriously going with that d-pad/left analog stick layout for a 4th generation in a row, Sony? Come the fuck on.

Why would they change the proper layout?

Anyway, instead of a touch pad, they should have put an oled touchscreen that bends over the top.

 

[waypoetic]

This is what Glenn/Torgo from PSNation has to say about it (i checked their Facebook-page) :

I've seen it closer-up, so there are some things that this pic doesn't really show. The size is just a bit bigger than the DS3 btw.

This version was sent to devs about 2 weeks ago

- (random poster) I hate the analog stick design. I hope they change it back to the DS3 style.
- (Glenn/Torgo answers) That's not a good picture. When you see it close-up, I think you'll be happy...

 

[Dreamgazer]

Happiness over a touchpad on the Dualshock but GAF nearly burned the house down over Kinect being included on Xbox.

Begun, the console wars has.

A touchpad does not require me to clear space.

People can't see how a touchpad and forced kinect might differ.

Begun, it has indeed.

 

[Rickenslacker]

Seriously going with that d-pad/left analog stick layout for a 4th generation in a row, Sony? Come the fuck on.

They got it right as far as I'm concerned.

 

[FantasticMrFoxdie]

Ahh so it is likely a bit bigger now that there is a touchpad on it. Sounds good.

I really wanted offset sticks. Please Sony, at least give us the option!

oh god no. There will definitely be 3rd party manufacturers for that though.

 

[plainr_]

My version:

 

[W1SSY]

Looks good to me. Why would Sony change the layout when in GAF threads it seems to be split 50/50 on preference of the layout.

 

[Hero]

Because the majority of games control via the left analog stick and should be put in the primary default resting position on the controller instead of being anchored to a design from the late 90's.

 

[Rafy]

I have to admit, that D-pad looks sexy!
I am assuming the final version will be much thinner and stylish.

 

[Raonak]

So looks like the share stuff was right after all.

no start/select is weird.... but at the same time, in most games, the select button was pretty useless. usually one accessed the menu, and the other paused. having just one options buttons makes a lot more sense.


When emulating ps1 games and such, the start/select will probably be on the touchpad, left side = select, right side = start
option button will probably be for the emulator options. and PS button for the standard menu.

 

[RoboPlato]

I have adjusted this to make it more level, with compare same scale DS3.

Looks way better this way. You can see it's a pretty big improvement, even in the prototype.

I'm also happy about digital buttons. They feel better than analogue and the analogue features were only used in MGS2 and 3 and were way too finnicky.