They really disgust me sometimes. They are port begging for the other consoles in an interview.
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Deus Ex: Human Revolution - Director's Cut [Up: Off-Screen play confirmed]
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They really disgust me sometimes. They are port begging for the other consoles in an interview.
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Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
haha your right. your most definantely right
Father_Brain
Banned
If Eidos Montreal is putting actual effort into this version, it makes even less sense. I get that they're probably going to bring the updated content to other platforms, but why even bother with temporary Wii U exclusivity?
Moff
Member
To be honest, although they were clearly the games most discussed flaw, the bossfights are really neglectable. they were easy and took about 5 minutes each, in a several dozen hours game. its really not a reason to buy this game again and/or call this the definitive version.
If I'd buy this game again, then only because of the gamepad gimmicks. I imagine hacking, the map, sniping and maybe using other skills like the dialogue enhancement with it might be quite fun. just because I like gimmicks.
If I'd buy this game again, then only because of the gamepad gimmicks. I imagine hacking, the map, sniping and maybe using other skills like the dialogue enhancement with it might be quite fun. just because I like gimmicks.
Port begging? Really, now? Completely justifiable question to make in my opinion
Sho_Nuff82
Member
The boss fights in the game are almost objectively bad. Subjectively, since I had a stealth/hacker build, they were awful.
There were tons of people shitting on Square yesterday for the game merely existing. Who cares if it's $50? Is this not the generation of the one month price drop? Who cares if it sets the sales charts in fire? Are Wii U owners so defensive of 3rd party sales that they will only accept games that will do well? It's a great game being made better on a platform with a dearth of great games. It is instantly one of the top 3 games in the library. The reaction has been silly imho.
There were tons of people shitting on Square yesterday for the game merely existing. Who cares if it's $50? Is this not the generation of the one month price drop? Who cares if it sets the sales charts in fire? Are Wii U owners so defensive of 3rd party sales that they will only accept games that will do well? It's a great game being made better on a platform with a dearth of great games. It is instantly one of the top 3 games in the library. The reaction has been silly imho.
To protect what little value that version has for a time??
metalslimer
Member
Because they know exactly what will happen when this game bombs at 50 bucks. Publiahers will claim Wiiu owners dont buy games and end all support. Of course Wiiu sales are dismal enough to do that anyway but still
Edit: Most of this content will probably come out as a patch for the other versions
Doczu
Member
From Amazon: Deus Ex Human Revolution Director's Cut (Wii U/$50) - May 7
Well, can someone tell me how to make a tasty roasted crow?
I'm still gonna bitch about the price (10-20 bucks too high), and untill there is a comparison with the other console editions there is nothing you can say about the graphics. But on the other hand - game dev commentary and improved gameplay/ai/boss battles sound tempting. Very tempting.
Well, can someone tell me how to make a tasty roasted crow?
I'm still gonna bitch about the price (10-20 bucks too high), and untill there is a comparison with the other console editions there is nothing you can say about the graphics. But on the other hand - game dev commentary and improved gameplay/ai/boss battles sound tempting. Very tempting.
Pretty sure Straight Right are doing this version. They handled ME3.
And I really doubt they're going to bring off screen play or any of the other improvements to other platforms. Why would they?
Dominic_Shade
Member
Dammit, I loved HL2's commentary nodes. To see it in DX:HR...but don't want to buy it at full price again...ergh, I'll just wait for a price drop, but chances are, I'll definitely pick this up at some point. I love love love reading behind-the-scenes stuff, especially how Valve did HL2's and Portal 2's. Developer commentary is something I wish more of my favourite developers would do, so I'm really glad I'll be able to hear Eidos' thoughts on DX:HR as I play the game.
I think the big significance of them was that - as I understand it, do correct me if I'm wrong - they didn't work for some forms of roleplaying which were otherwise fully-supported by the game; you had to 'break character' for a boss and then swap back. That kinda sucks for the game's flow.
Sounds like nice changes....but nothing to be hyped over. And the PC version is $5...right now. And it will look better and play better. Stuffing the gamepad full of shit cause you can is annoying.
And I've no doubt that the AI and Boss improvements will make it over to the PC version....you know...the one that actually sells.
And I've no doubt that the AI and Boss improvements will make it over to the PC version....you know...the one that actually sells.
metalslimer
Member
Deus Ex 4 is going to be PS4/720 just like Thief which is why this port makes little sense to begin with besides throwing wii u owners a bone. And didnt ME3 have issues? So im not convinced of straight rights porting ability
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qizah
Unconfirmed Member
The new improvements sound great and it's a great deal for those who don't have the game already.
However, for me, it's not worth it having already played it on the 360. I'd rather spend $49 on a new game I haven't played yet, though I will admit I wish I played it with the GamePad features (mainly map on the screen + inventory)
However, for me, it's not worth it having already played it on the 360. I'd rather spend $49 on a new game I haven't played yet, though I will admit I wish I played it with the GamePad features (mainly map on the screen + inventory)
Agent_4Seven
Tears of Nintendo
Well, can they just release Director's Cut version digitally or sell a retail version at the adequate price? I mean without Wii U functions.
I have the original game and Missing Link DLC in Steam, but Director's Cut is a more completed story which you can play from start to finish without switching the original game to Missing Link after mission in port. Not to mention changes in gameplay, boss fights and other stuff not related to Wii U functions.
Yeah they interrupted people who were going for full ghost, no kill runs. But I still didn't see the big deal with that, it didn't stop me from doing the rest of the game in full stealth/no kills. Since the boss fights were there and unavoidable I just kind of shrugged and did them and then went back to sneaking and not killing.
Sho_Nuff82
Member
Square had DQX confirmed for Wii U since early 2012. The game only sold about 250k opening month on NPD. Wii U already had its "test" games anyway. Publishers are making decisions based on the sales of CoD and Assassin's Creed, not a minor franchise like Deus Ex.
The console war isn't being fought with this game.
Revolutionary
Member
Judging from the pictures, it's lower resolution textures (check out the Final Fantasy 27 poster) and weak anti-aliasing.
With this mentality, most encounters in the game are a potential roadblock. For instance, saving Malik is difficult for a stealth/Pacifist build, but totally possible.
Furthermore, the first boss is defeatable without firing a single bullet. The second and third aren't, but from what I remember, you can acquire everything you need to defeat them just before the fights (I recall an armory just before the second fight). They're hardly roadblocks at all, but they are absolutely jarring in this kind of game.
ColdBlooder
Banned
Wii U version has AA wich is not present in PS360 versions
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2...nfirmed-and-yes-theyve-fixed-the-boss-battles
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2...nfirmed-and-yes-theyve-fixed-the-boss-battles
Doczu
Member
For now i'm only partially right (boss battles). If the graphics will be updated and the game will have a balance overhaul i will eat one. Instagram'd.
I do hope that it isn't the only upgrade. I'm not saying the game is ugly, but the Wii U can do better.
This is my biggest issue with this game and other late ports other then the prices. Late ports don't do well. They didn't do well on the PS3 and they didn't do well on the 360. They aren't doing well or going to do well on the Wii U. This is a known issue. However developers and publishers will be all to happy to use this as an excuse for why their future games aren't appearing on the system regardless if it makes good business sense.
I'm appreciative of the work that isn going into the game but that still doesn't excuse the price tag give how late this game is. I'm saying somewhat positive things about the game in this thread but price is still a big issue and I'm honestly in the end not getting it at $50 or even $40. I'll wait until it goes really low because I know no sequel will ever come. Also because when there will likely be actual new games one the system around the time it comes out.
It's why I didn't get Need for Speed even though that game seemed to have some effort behind. Not even the Origin sale could make get it to be honest even though I could have made it work financially. I fully expect the next Need for Speed game not to appear on the system regardless of how Most Wanted does so why waste the money.
I'm focusing at the moment on Nintendo made and published games with the exception of Monster Hunter given Nintendo and Capcom's relationship regarding that franchise. When it's assured that future games will appear regardless of how a late port does then I'll start looking at things differently.
Bony Manifesto
Member
Wait, what? I'm pretty sure the PS3/360 versions had some form of post-process anti-aliasing.
Revolutionary
Member
Click the pictures, and believe your eyes?
I never played the PS3/360 versions of DEHR so I wouldn't know if they had AA or not.
From the article:
Both. It's probably more like Straight Right doing the work and Edios Montreal overseeing at some cabability.
frankie_baby
Member
both by the looks of things
Yeah, according to DF the 360 version used FXAA and the PS3 version used an altered version of FXAA or MLAA. I would expect the Wii U version to use some form of post-processing AA as well.
Both likely. Even though Mass Effect 3 was done by Straight Right they still had a Bioware team overseeing things. The producer that did interviews for ME3, Melanie Faulknor, was from Bioware. No one from Straight Right was ever the face for the game.
Hero of Legend
Member
How about dem PC textures? If Criterion can do it...
Did the PC version have better textures?
Did the PC version have better textures?
Oh, because if Straight Right wasn't doing it than they would be porting a different game.
Well, we're still waiting for the NFS one. It seems that it just takes a lot more time to do these than the ones that just trash the system ....
Well they added fog according to the article.
Hero of Legend
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frankie_baby
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Easy fella, I was just chuckling at the already conflicting information
But if you haven't played it, how are you concluding the WiiU version has lower resolution textures and "weak AA" from some screenshots?
tkscz
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Easy fella, I was just chuckling at the already conflicting information
But if you haven't played it, how are you concluding the WiiU version has lower resolution textures and "weak AA" from some screenshots?
what screen shot? i couldn't find one. just what looks to be a photoshopped image of jeson with a wiiu gamepad
Vyse The Legend
Member
It looks like they made some serious improvements. I don't know if it's enough to justify the full price, but I will likely get it at some point.
Agreed. If the developers integrated the Gamepad functionality heavily in the game, I have no problem with no Off-TV play. Look at Zombi-U. Nobody's complaining about no Off-TV for that title.