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[Colonel Mustard]

Another Wii U thread? Geez!

It comes out tomorrow. GAF loves indie games. You're on a video game message board. It's new news.

All reasons for this thread.

 

[MasterShotgun]

Nintendo just might nail the eShop. This is fantastic to hear.

 

[Criminal Upper]

Another Wii U thread? Geez!

It's almost as if it comes out tomorrow.

 

[Seance]

There's no fee on DLC and patches, too.

The most enticing Wii U news I've heard.

 

[Napoleonthechimp]

Another Wii U thread? Geez!

I know! It's almost as if they think there's some kind of console launch happening!

 

[Omzz]

Great news

 

[Plinko]

I have huge hopes for the eShop because of this.

 

[Baconsammy]

Great news until we're bombarded with new patches every other time we start a game.

 

[metalslimer]

Great news until we're bombarded with new patches every other time we start a game.

Does this happen with Steam?

 

[andthebeatgoeson]

Good news, few posts. I heard there is a day 1 update but it rapes your wife and makes you watch the 3rd matrix movie. Then it charges the dev 5 bucks a rape.

 

[Keyouta]

Awesome news. This will be a great platform for indie titles.

 

[RionaaM]

Great news until we're bombarded with new patches every other time we start a game.

As long as they fix stuff which otherwise would go unpatched, I say let them come.

Good news, few posts. I heard there is a day 1 update but it rapes your wife and makes you watch the 3rd matrix movie. Then it charges the dev 5 bucks a rape.

I'd download that update several times in a row.

 

[EmCeeGramr]

if nintendo gave baconsammy a free blowjob he would complain that it encourages infidelity

 

[Rickenslacker]

Good news all around, good on Nintendo.

Does this happen with Steam?

Most of the time a game will just update in the background on Steam so long as Steam's running.

 

[Baconsammy]

if nintendo gave baconsammy a free blowjob he would complain that it encourages infidelity

Not enough suction.

Does this happen with Steam?

No idea. I do know that PS3 game updates are sometimes 1-2 hour long affairs.

 

[@MUWANdo]

Didn't the Fez dev say "fuck it I'm not patching the game" because of the high price for patching the game?


Awesome news

Phil Fish couldn't work out how to fix his game; the submissions fee required for the patch was just an additional incentive to give up.

 

[Kevtones]

Wow, great news.

 

[zroid]

Another Wii U thread? Geez!

 

[Mileena]

Great news until we're bombarded with new patches every other time we start a game.

Why do I have to install a patch every time I turn on my PS3 Wii U?

 

[Agent X]

Very good news!

I think Nintendo greatly mishandled the Wii's online marketplace in the past, and still wish they would go back and apply some of these policy changes to their older systems as well. Regardless, this is a step in the right direction for them.

 

[MagicWithEarvin]

Amazing move by Nintendo

 

[Orayn]

Does this happen with Steam?

There are a few games where it's a problem, all of which are based on Unreal 3 since patching those requires replacing a huge portion of existing game files.

TF2 updates can be rather large, but aren't frequent enough for the size to be too annoying.

 

[pvpness]

if nintendo gave baconsammy a free blowjob he would complain that it encourages infidelity

Was straining to find a negative but knew bs would beat me to it. Lol.

Sounds super great. Hope it makes ms/Sony rethink their policy.

 

[Phazon]

Great news until we're bombarded with new patches every other time we start a game.

If Nintendo servers are as slow as updating the system with day one update, then yes

 

[To Far Away Times]

Great news indeed!

 

[Baconsammy]

If it's the 360 approach where it patches rather than replaces, it should go quickly. If it's the PS3 method of replacing and then installing, then it becomes a pain. We'll know when this guy finishes his Wii U patch update and pops in Assassins Creed 3 how Wii U game patches are handled, because if I remember right Ubisoft said it was going to have a day 1 patch.

 

[Erethian]

Does this happen with Steam?

It depends on the game. Either way the benefit of no fees for patching far, far outweighs any negatives.

 

[Chrom]

Is the shop going to be up day one?

Yeah.

 

[Corto]

Sorry double post

 

[KillerTravis]

If it's the 360 approach where it patches rather than replaces, it should go quickly. If it's the PS3 method of replacing and then installing, then it becomes a pain. We'll know when this guy finishes his Wii U patch update and pops in Assassins Creed 3 how Wii U game patches are handled, because if I remember right Ubisoft said it was going to have a day 1 patch.

I think he still only has NintendoLand.

 

[Corto]

If this is disruptive enough to make the Wii U a golden haven for independent developers I will most certainly buy one. Your move Sony.

 

[Stumpokapow]

Another Wii U thread? Geez!

It's a console launch. It's going to occupy most of the front page. Nintendo didn't answer one hundredth of the questions people would have about it before launch. It's going to occupy even more than most console launches.

 

[KageMaru]

No charge for patches is bigger news IMO. Would be great for MS and Sony to do the same thing.

As for setting the price, don't Sony and MS already allow publishers to set the price for digital games?

 

[SpaceDrake]

If Nintendo sticks to all of this, indies will flock to them in droves. MS and Sony will be all but abandoned. This is literally sea-change huge. Possibly the biggest development news of the year. Completely excellent in every way.

 

[Oni Link 666]

Cool. Someone send this to Phil Fish and Mike Z.

 

[zroid]

If Nintendo sticks to all of this, indies will flock to them in droves. MS and Sony will be all but abandoned. This is literally sea-change huge. Possibly the biggest development news of the year. Completely excellent in every way.

I think Sony will step up for the next gen, but I'm not so sure about Microsoft. They may make some improvements but it would need to be quite the quantum leap to be level with the competition.

 

[Thraktor]

If this leads to Steam-level discounting of retail titles, then this is quite possibly the best thing to happen to consoles in years. Time to clean off my 500GB hard-drive in anticipation.

 

[BD1]

I think part of Iwata's Master Plan is to foster the digital download/indie development scene on Wii U. They've become huge proponents of the whole platform this year.

 

[Diddy Kong]

Haveri also noted Miiverse is something Frozenbyte definitely has its eye on, not just in terms of letting Miis run around and interact, but creating a social avenue that might allow developers to more directly communicate with fans. It's something that's a bit unprecedented in gaming, but is an experiment that might well be worth a developer's time.

HYPE

 

[Baconsammy]

No charge for patches is bigger news IMO. Would be great for MS and Sony to do the same thing.

As for setting the price, don't Sony and MS already allow publishers to set the price for digital games?

I dont think MS allows free stuff. But they do allow publishers to set the price. Sony is the same way.

If Nintendo sticks to all of this, indies will flock to them in droves. MS and Sony will be all but abandoned. This is literally sea-change huge. Possibly the biggest development news of the year. Completely excellent in every way.

Not true at all. Indies hate Microsoft but stay there because that's where the money/gamers are. If Nintendo cant attract the core gamers back, the indies wont flock there.

 

[Erethian]

I think part of Iwata's Master Plan is to foster the digital download/indie development scene on Wii U. They've become huge proponents of the whole platform this year.

Probably because they're looking to what smartphones are doing more than what Sony/Microsoft are doing.

 

[Sandfox]

Yeah, it's supposedly thousands of dollars. I believe Phil Fish said it could be anywhere in between 10,000 and 40,000 dollars.

I can definitely see smaller indie devs leaving Microsoft next gen and just sticking with Steam and the Wii U barring something shocking happening.

 

[Vic]

"They have pushed away all of the old methods that have been established before," Haveri told me. "Simply put they've told us that there are no basic payments for each patch (which were pretty high on most platforms) and that we can update our game almost as much as we want. For indie developers this is huge."

Nice. Very nice.

 

[Currygan]

this is excellent to hear. No downsides for me

 

[Corto]

I can definitely see smaller indie devs leaving Microsoft next gen and just sticking with Steam and the Wii U barring something shocking happening.

That's the beauty of a competitive market. Microsoft and Sony will have to react having similar conditions on their services or even upping the ante. Either way we win!

 

[diamount]

Great, so hopefully no more £45 for games a year or so after release. Looking at you PSN.

 

[Bidermaier]

I can definitely see smaller indie devs leaving Microsoft next gen and just sticking with Steam and the Wii U barring something shocking happening.

Fez wii u please !!!

 

[ShockingAlberto]

I dont think MS allows free stuff. But they do allow publishers to set the price. Sony is the same way.

Unless it has changed recently, this isn't true.

 

[Combichristoffersen]

This is great for devs and consumers alike, as Sony and MS will have to react to this to stay competitive.

 

[Twilight Princess]

Would be even better for the devs if it allows in game purchase