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DF/JF: Battlefield 4 PS4 vs XB1 videos/screens (900p PS4, 720p XB1)
- Thread starter shinobi602
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The difference is big not much else to say.
to me it looks like the ps4 verison has a bug with the clouds. they are still there on the xbox one but look more natural. also looking at polygons images and we have the same results as digital foundry. the ps4 version is softened and blurred to a horrible extent and the xbox one is jaggy but sharper.
Does the ps4 not havea harware scaler this time?? i can't believe it if sony passed one up again after the ps3.
:/
its a bit upsetting that neither can downright be called the winner, in what the human eye see's but I personally am happier with my ps4 purchase as i know once develops get to grips with it, that there is more horsepower under the hood. I just pray that the ps4 doesn't havea software scaler and no hardware, that would be an absoultely stupid idea
Does the ps4 not havea harware scaler this time?? i can't believe it if sony passed one up again after the ps3.
:/
its a bit upsetting that neither can downright be called the winner, in what the human eye see's but I personally am happier with my ps4 purchase as i know once develops get to grips with it, that there is more horsepower under the hood. I just pray that the ps4 doesn't havea software scaler and no hardware, that would be an absoultely stupid idea
Oh, didnt know that. Whats that got to do with my original point?
Clockwork
Member
Who confirmed the PS4 does software up scaling while XBOX One has hardware upscaling?
I think that was just an assumption DF made based on their capture results, which now appear to be flawed from the beginning,
Sadly this is how rumors start.
What do you base that on exactly? Because history says otherwise.
Calm down guys, 'kin hell.
Price aside, the PS3 came out a year later and had little going for it. This isn't a comparable transition.
Also what's with the 'Enjoy your Xbox' comment? I'm sharing my thoughts about casual gamers. That has nothing to do with that console I buy (which is neither, though I've always gone Sony)
I also very much doubt those people claiming a "steady" 60 fps. I'm using a GTX680 which performs faster in Battlefield and am unable to maintain a solid 60 fps without dropping the resolution scaler setting. At 1080p with high/ultra settings I cannot maintain 60 by any means and I don't believe those who claim they are doing on on a 7950.
There's a difference between holding 60 fps solid and getting a somewhat variable 60 fps.
It does look fine when compared on its own, or vs the 360. Its does not look fine when comapred to the PS4 in IQ and frame-rate. And this is a launch title. Lower resolution, worse framerate and missing effects like SSAO.
The casuals follow the nerds to some extent "CoD feels smoother on 360", "Uncharted looks amazing", "I hear the games look better on PS4 -Why? -idunnololijusthearditXD" but they dont know shit about what resolution, effects or framerate is but everyone can feel and see a difference. Its why CoD is so popular "it feels smoother".
The thing with PS3vs360 was that the PS3 had a complicated architechture but it is a bit more powerful than the 360. The XOne seems to have a more complicated architechture than the PS4 AND worse in CPU/GPU power due to the slow DDR3 RAM patched with ESRAM that needs to be managed, and a straight up worse GPU. So even if devs use the ESRAM 100%, cloud powah 100% and the GPU to its fullest, if devs do the same on PS4, it will still be ahead.
bigboss370
Member
Just watched PS4 Flood Zone mp footage and-
this guy was right:
its freakin bizarre >_>
this guy was right:
its freakin bizarre >_>
This probably shows the largest difference yet it's not in OP. C'mon Newman.
Do you not see the jaggies on the Xbox version, look at the gun and the car to the left. Lack of details in the cloud?
The contrast is jacked, look at the chopper in both versions. The Xbox one has black holes of no detail because the contrast has been jacked. You can do that with your 360 right now and achieve the same effect.
But you cannot remove the jaggies and lack of effects by merely fucking with the remote
Seems so. While the PS4 does have the higher numbers, both sides should be very happy with the game looking really good and at stable framerates. Also getting the real BF feel with full maps and 64 players is also most welcome.
Agree. People seem to have a hard time grasping the desire to purchase Kinect.
well, kinda
Frostbite 3 has its own internal scaling feature which can be used on the PC as well.
I don't think so. It still very clearly shows the major differences while providing a performance graph. The contrast issue doesn't suddenly eliminate the primary differences. Provided you understand that it should be easy to look beyond those issues.
It's a joke. The majority of 80 million 360 owners are much more than the 25 million original Xboxes sold.
Gemüsepizza
Member
Lol, better AA isn't the only advantage of the PS4 version. And even if we assume that the PS4 version is indeed less sharp than the X1 version, which is debatable when it seems DF had problems with capturing, the fun begins when we begin comparing the rest of the games on both platforms. Because, you know, BF4 is the only PS4 title with <1080p. CoD will be interesting, 720p vs 1080p.
You're kidding right?
Duxxy3
Member
There are much better sources out there for comparison reasons.
I think the difference should be higher, at least in the short term future. This is because DICE somehow botched the scaling or AA somewhat, resulting in an unnecessarily blurry PS4 image. If the PS4 didn't have that blur filter on it, the huge technical advantage over the 720p Xbone would be even more apparent.
Looking in the long-term, one could argue that devs will get more used to utilizing ESRAM. But on the flipside, 32MB of ESRAM is not very much, and could very well be a permanent bottleneck that doesn't get any better--or even gets worse--considering how many, many games will be using more sophisticated deferred rendering engines in the future. Deferred rendering seems to be the bane of the Xbone's ESRAM.
It is a comparable situation, you just do want it to be. Wii U is doing horribly, despite Wii flying off the shelves. N64 did badly despite SNES dominating its generation.
History has shown you are wrong.
And please, do not tell us to "calm down". You made a bad argument and we corrected you.
Quadraphonic
Member
Upscaling doesn't fix anything. It's not some magic 'get rid of jaggy' phrase you can pull out of your butt to fix images.
More important- downgrade from what was shown at the MS E3 conference to now?
Salvor.Hardin
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Maninthemirror
Banned
Basically . If DF had not applied that sharpening filter to the x1 output its textures would match the ps4 and also result in less aliasing
PS4 upscaler doesn't suck.
DF botched capture. In IGN video both games have same colors.
They were demoed on PCs at E3, it's to be expected.
Where?
TheOctodad
Member
I got that. I was affirming his point.
SRTtoZ
Member
This time yes. DF was a pretty big letdown.
Maninthemirror
Banned
Thats the DF capture isnt it?
its just one of the classic arguments the PC Elite use to bash the consoles...they love to point out that the $500 laptops from 4 years ago are more powerful then the PS4/Xbone...
then of course the recommended requirements for the new games started to come out and they were shitting bricks....
annnnnnnnnnd 56% higher resolution....higher average framerate...effects that dont exist on the Xbone version....
yeah...
i remember reading awhile back on some forums that Panasonic sets had some built in edge enhancement, and dont have a menu option to turn it off...if thats the case then just try lowering the sharpness
why would they even apply a sharpening filter and change the colours? doesn't that invalidate the comparison. i mean if you're going to be consistent, at least apply the same filters and changes to both version.
Teletraan1
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Some of it is the OP is not updated to reflect the DF screw up. The comparison pics in the OP show a washed out blurry mess of a PS4 vs Super Sharp Dark Abyss XB1. I had to skip ahead to get to the actual discussion.
Salvor.Hardin
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That means nothing when the Xbox One version doesn't look like the blurry mess that the PS4 version is.
Arrogant Bastard
Banned
So why not buy the PS4 now and get the better experience? Then when the Kinect actually has a use (like you said a few years) buy that system.
Poor captures. The One almost looks like it has gone through a sharpening algorithm (not really in a positive way as it really makes the jaggies noticeable) and at least in DF's comparison it is oversaturated which makes the PS4 and PC look a bit washed out, but that is the intended look of the game.
Err, I think your definition of "blurry" is way off base here.