Do you have any links to previous games where DF have not covered them and instead said, "Well, that's what it says on the box so we don't need to analyse it"?
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Digital Foundry: Anthem technical breakdown
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Bits N Pieces
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Keep it up dude.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
I think it's more to do with whatever games Digital Foundry are able to get their hands on directly first. Maybe they haven't had a chance to cover Forza.
It could also be because Forza is a known quantity and they want to focus more on the new reveals.
Bits N Pieces
Member
double post.
It's cause we already have an analysis of the tech that is going into Forza 7. The analysis is not for Forza 7 specifically but it is about the tech that will go into it. Considering this it makes sense to prioritise something that hasn't already been covered in atleast some form or another. Forza 7 is a known quantity from a known IP, Anthem isn't.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/d...-motorsport-on-project-scorpio-the-full-story
I would hope we're past the downgrade phase at this point in the generation. It hasn't happened with the later generations of software we've seen recently.
Christocolus
Member
This game was the best looking thing at E3. Will definitely be playing this on the 1X. It looks incredible.
BatSu
Member
Ok , sorry .
FingerBang
Member
Seriously?
People have been making fun of PS4 Pro since it was announced. Microsoft has been making fun of PS4 Pro 4K, with their "TRUE 4K" thing, and they did it a few days ago as well during the conference.
It's okay to be biased, let's not pretend console A fanboys are worse than console B fanboys. They're all the same.
It will be. On PC.
Is there a reason you're not responding to my other posts?
What exactly are you basing your theories on? To me, it appears that you have an answer and you're doing everything you can to fit everything into that answer rather than just looking at how DF usually deal with this stuff.
The reason that people keep questioning you is because you're just not making any sense, and perhaps worse that that, you're even trying to presenting anything that backs up what you're suggesting. People will probably keep doing this until you actually offer them something concrete to react to.
Well we know that the Xbox one will be 720p/900p as it's frostbite so there should be no expectation of native 4k in that situation.
ethomaz
Banned
Because Phil and MS with the "true 4k" talk... they said Pro is a "false 4k" console like Xbox One S while Scorpio is the only one "true 4k".
They made themselves a joke.
MR ARCADE FOREVER
Member
checkboar rendering ahn? What is up with true 4K Microsodt?
If you willfully ignore the fact they've also stated they're letting devs use the power the way they see fit.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Probably 720p on XB1 and 900p on PS4 going by earlier frost bite examples.
Wishmaster92
Member
Yup, have you seen how dense this game looks?? Insane. I wouldn't care if the pro would run 1440p or even 1800p CB.
Has that 2005-2006 ish CG aesthetic. I love it.
Honest question, how do you selectively hold onto a marketing term meant to communicate a superior product but ignore the actual technical comments, discussions, and policies made by these same people?
FalsettoVibe
Member
I'm more curious about how it will look on Pro.
ethomaz
Banned
If you ignore everything they said about "the only true 4k console" this E3
I don't select anything... false claims from companies needs to called out.
Why I will call them out on their correct claims??? Makes no sense lol
Those are 60fps games tho. 30 is usually 900 and 1080p.
OK, so we have that.
If you look at what's involved in this particular game, that fact it;s brand new IP from BioWare, that people have been excited about and the fact that it's a third party used by Microsoft to demonstrate the new console and the previous work that they've done on Scorpio, at the invitation of Microsoft.
There is nothing about any of that which would make you think what you're suggesting could be true. Absolutely nothing.
I'd imagine that DF would love to have a hundred new analysis videos published every day because they make money from them but they can only do what they can do. There's nothing that benefits DF from ignoring Forza 7, it's just that I'd suggest this game is a far more interesting proposition to more people, and to them, that Forza 7 is at the moment.
If you ignore everything they said about "the only true 4k console" this E3
I don't select anything... false claims from companies needs to called out.
As long as you know you're being disingenuous. You're calling out them telling people it can do true 4k and yet you're ignoring them telling people devs don't have to hit 4k if they choose not to.
The only thing false is your assertion of what's going on here. You don't need to call them out. Acknowledge that they also stated they aren't making 4k mandatory.
i'm not even talking downgrades. just the natural passing of time and expectations being adjusted based on other games releasing.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Oh right, forgot ME Andromeda ran at higher resolutions than the BF games. Andromeda still dropped resolution for the cut-scenes IIRC. PS4 dropped to 900p and XB1 to 720p (?)
Dee Dah Dave
Member
Eh not really.
Sony are saying their console is 4K, yet only a few games actually are
Microsoft are saying their console is 4K, and quite a lot of games actually will be. Plus UHD media.
So who is closer to the truth?
It's just a quick tagline to give a rough idea to potential consumers on where the performance differences are. They can't be reeling off every potential outcome in their TV advert, except for the small print stuff. And again, we have Mark Cerny only yesterday in a 'PR speech' saying Gran Turismo is 4K. Well, it isn't. Should we start bombarding his Twitter demanding the truth? No, we shouldn't. Just let Digital Foundry sort out the details if you need them.
I don't get what youre trying to prove here?If you ignore everything they said about "the only true 4k console" this E3
Its clear that its running on the 1X, and I bet every single person on here will unanimously agree that they'd prefer this ridiculously high visual fidelity at CBR 4K rather than the settings being knocked down to run native.
I put my money on 1440 CBR on the pro without the same texture quality.
If you ignore everything they said about "the only true 4k console" this E3
I don't select anything... false claims from companies needs to called out.
Why I will call them out on their correct claims??? Makes no sense lol
The only people who don't get it or act confused are console warriors. Don't embarrass yourself any further. You have no interest in the X, so why derail a thread with your nonsense.
MosquitoSmasher
Member
Well that's only a good thing that the folks at DF don't seem to doubt it was running off the hardware. Definitely gives me more hope that it might really end up looking like this, i want to say better since this is pre alpha, but i really doubt that. But this game....this fucking game. Imagine if MEA had looked like this.
Maximilian Kolbe
Member
When yeah, they should said PS4 Pro is false 1800p and said One X is false 4k right.
Yup. I didn't expect that at all. Looks great.
Yeap. Same shit different thread.
ethomaz
Banned
Both are machines that can delivery 4k with Scorpio being the stronger one. Said that both lacks the horse power to delivery 4k for most games.
The "true"/"false" 4k narrative is shameful.
piccio_ssl
Member
god bless cbr
I've got a sneaky feeling you're going to be in for a shock when DF comparisons for both a shown.
MetalliCabombination
Member
Checkerboarding on consoles is the smart choice to make
Basing your entire marketing campaign on 'true 4k' while trying to sell this to exactly the type of people who are more likely to be knowledgeable of its not so true 4k , is not.
Basing your entire marketing campaign on 'true 4k' while trying to sell this to exactly the type of people who are more likely to be knowledgeable of its not so true 4k , is not.
Tripolygon
Banned
Agreed, good compromise between high resolution and high graphical effects. I think Cerny was right where he said 8TF was the bare minimum requirement to have native 4K with few comprises.
Who knows. But shouldnt we just wait until the games are out and the One X is out?
I have sometimes the feeling its november already.
ISee
Member
It even helps on PC tbh. I used it in Watch Dogs 2 for 1440p and the results were fantastic (with + resolution scaling and very light sharpening).
LukasTaves
Member
The True 4K was about the ability to deliver Xbone games in 4k. Developers taking the next step and delivering higher settings at the expense of a native resolution does not make that statement untrue.
The Pro is incapable of running games that don't already have plenty of headroom on Ps4 in native 4k, the jury's still out on Xbonex if that's the case, but choosing games that decided to go over the "Xbone games in native 4k at the same settings and framerate" promise to say they are lying only makes the argument itself a joke.