family_guy
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If the standard PS4 is doing HDR in RGB wouldn't that be 8-bit HDR on the regular vs 10-bit HDR on the Pro?
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Digital Foundry: Gran Turismo Sport is HDR's killer app
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If the standard PS4 is doing HDR in RGB wouldn't that be 8-bit HDR on the regular vs 10-bit HDR on the Pro?
TrojanBlade
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That looked incredible even on youtube SDR mode. I can't imagine how amazing it will look on a properly calibrated 4K HDR display. Just wow! I think this game finally surpasses DC in a lot of aspects especially being 60fps.
Does this game have any kind of an arcade mode more closer to DC? Generally I have found these sim games really hard to play since I don't have a wheel.
Does this game have any kind of an arcade mode more closer to DC? Generally I have found these sim games really hard to play since I don't have a wheel.
FairXchange
Member
The demo looked amazing on my X900E, the HDR implementation is stunning.
SMOK3Y
Generous Member
Sadly Mad Max is quite a lot crappier than original....
That video looked incredibly flat on my SDR 1440p PC monitor hah.
Thought it was missing graphical effects like basic shadowing. Seems to confirm the general feeling that HDR is most noticeable when going back to SDR. Been playing this in 4K HDR earlier this evening (LG B6).
Got to give Polyphony big kudos on the menus in this game. Very, very stellar: https://youtu.be/FDkWwX3Id98?t=568
Thought it was missing graphical effects like basic shadowing. Seems to confirm the general feeling that HDR is most noticeable when going back to SDR. Been playing this in 4K HDR earlier this evening (LG B6).
Got to give Polyphony big kudos on the menus in this game. Very, very stellar: https://youtu.be/FDkWwX3Id98?t=568
BotoxAgent
Member
holy fuck this game looks slick as hell even through youtube via my laptop
jellies_two
Member
It's 60fps and hdr that alone is enough to outshine driveclub but one area driveclub wins is cockpit quality and how close you can get the camera to cockpit details, and until I see how rain and snow is done, weather and dynamic weather / moving sun.
Just a short, simple "slow tv" digital video of one dude arc welding on a construction site. However, it's got one of the most easy to understand examples of why HDR is more than just contrast. The welder has a huge steel carabiner buckle on his tool belt, and the color detail reflecting in that object alone is a real "oh I get it now" moment for why HDR is detail and information rather than just a broad improvement.
Search for "HDR" in the netflix app and it should show up near the bottom.
Mad Max is GLORIOUSLY overdone. It's basically the movie equivalent of jacking the volume up to 11.
It is NOT "good" or subtle, but it is CRAZY.
Chris_Rivera
Member
The S8 isnt a 10bit display is it? I thought the only the S3 tablet was. That could cause the banding.
Hmm, seems so.
It's a shame Samsung doesn't appear to give a shit.
I get banding on 8-bit gradients too from the player it seems. Maybe the video plyer is borked.
I'd imagine that the game itself is probably toned differently for SDR and HDR output anyway. DF has uploaded HDR footage (with guessed HDR metadata?) and then youtube has then tonemapped that footage to SDR. It's not going to be representative of how it looks if HDR was disabled.
It is Mobile UHD certified, so is 10bit and 500nit and 90% P3 coverage.
Equanimity
Member
I'm not really into the racing genre but GT has always impressed me.
Can you handle phablets without a problem?
Can you handle phablets without a problem?
I used to have a Lumia 950 XL, I think I can handle it.
Not sure if anyone in the universe wants to swap, however.
I guess I could always get it on contract.
RedAssedApe
Banned
Ah thanks. I think Ive heard it mentioned before and kept thinking people were talking about this Japanese show hibana sparks for some reason. So I watched an episode and couldnt figure out why people were thinking it was a good sample for Dolby vision/hdr10 Lol
Why don't you just watch it on youtube?
SMOK3Y
Generous Member
Funnily enough thats what i don't like about lol pretty well from thunderdome on it was downhill
Pretty much. It says HDR but it doesn't activate HDR on the display. The easiest way to know this for sure is how the colours are the same in multi-view or that you can take a screenshot and it shows up vibrant in Rec.709 colours.
There's also the fact that it doesn't look like HDR.
I really want an Note 8 now
AbandonedTrolley
Member
Pretty much. It says HDR but it doesn't activate HDR on the display. The easiest way to know this for sure is how the colours are the same in multi-view or that you can take a screenshot and it shows up vibrant in Rec.709 colours.
There's also the fact that it doesn't look like HDR.
I really want an Note 8 now
I assume same issue with the Tab S3 which also has a HDR display.
How do you have it calibrated for HDR? I played the demo on the same TV and thought it looked great. GTS was one of the best examples of HDR I've seen on the Pro.
I've only had a chance to try the demo on the PC and I'm not sure I agree. The implementation is good, with the sun peaking out after a storm being a highlight, but how it's done in GTS was impressive on a more consistent level. Maybe things change with the final game but I wouldn't know.
It's actually an excellent HDR gaming TV, especially for the price. The problem is either his specific TV or his calibrations. GTS looks awesome in HDR for me on the same model TV.
It's not a true 4K console
Getting a 55" 4K HDR set next week. Will download the demo again on my Pro to see the light! Never played a game in 4K, checkerboard or whatever, nor have I played in HDR.
Slightly exited, because the demo itself wasn't earth shattering (apart from presentation), and I like the gameplay of Forza 7 better.
What does this even mean? What do resolution and HDR have to do with each other?
Slightly exited, because the demo itself wasn't earth shattering (apart from presentation), and I like the gameplay of Forza 7 better.
What does this even mean? What do resolution and HDR have to do with each other?
reptilescorpio
Member
Playing the demo it was the most enjoyable GT since 4 for me. I bounced off 5 & 6 pretty quickly but Sport feels and plays really well.
Nope. Was kind of disappointed too since someone said it did in a previous thread.
SomewhatGroovy
Banned
HDR here hasnt stood out to me. What settings were used in-game?
40 Hours wow, that is bonkers.
Its so appreciated for us who can view them on our TVs tho Dark, thank you.
It was a reference to what Microsoft say about Xbox One X and people go , what does that even mean?!
TrojanBlade
Member
From all the vibes so far, I think this is the GT that will take back the crown and score well. Let's see.
Equanimity
Member
I don't think you'll find a single soul willing to swap their Note 8 with and an S8.
Both are amazing smartphones but phablets belong to a niche market.
I just recently bought a 49" Sony x8005e and am still messing around with HDR (base PS4). The everything-on-automatic setting (PS4 and TV, everything plugged in the correct HDMI ports) looked a bit washed out initially.
But just a slight increase in color saturation (until it matched the non-hdr saturation) did the trick for me.
I have no idea how HDR is actually supposed to look, but on my set, with the slight adjustments, it looks extremely realistic - with slightly less "popping" colors all around compared to non-hdr, but a richer color definition.
Also, the sun (or reflections) actually make me squint on reflex.
But just a slight increase in color saturation (until it matched the non-hdr saturation) did the trick for me.
I have no idea how HDR is actually supposed to look, but on my set, with the slight adjustments, it looks extremely realistic - with slightly less "popping" colors all around compared to non-hdr, but a richer color definition.
Also, the sun (or reflections) actually make me squint on reflex.
potatohead
Member
This is not only in gt but yes always helpful
You really should just get a 4k hdr it's more than worth that difference
CyberChulo
Member
Just saw this on my Galaxy s8 plus in hdr. INCREDIBLE!
YouTube or Patreon download?
killatopak
Gold Member
60fps replays :O
I'm gonna watch so many replays.
I'm gonna watch so many replays.
ss_lemonade
Member
Not sure, but I don't think there is such a thing as 8bit HDR. Is the standard PS4 HDMI 1.4? If so, maybe with 1080p, you still have enough bandwidth available to support HDR with HDMI 1.4. Or is it somewhat a 2.0 compliant device, just like those mad theories by that one gaf member here from way back?
Neuromancer
Member
I wish I had an HDR 4k TV. Anyone have a couple thousand dollars you can lend me?
All things aside, I don't think HDR in GTS does anything to overcome its shortfalls.
It has a very last gen look to everything that isn't the cars. The geometry, foliage, backgrounds... Reflections.
It really look alike a ok meow important high resolution cars and some new gen shader and put it over a PS3 game. The ground gives me Ridge Racer feels.
I can't agree that it is HDR's killer app. I feel like almost everything else I downloaded from Gamersyde is more impressive as a showcase of HDR.
It has a very last gen look to everything that isn't the cars. The geometry, foliage, backgrounds... Reflections.
It really look alike a ok meow important high resolution cars and some new gen shader and put it over a PS3 game. The ground gives me Ridge Racer feels.
I can't agree that it is HDR's killer app. I feel like almost everything else I downloaded from Gamersyde is more impressive as a showcase of HDR.