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Digital Foundry "we can now finally rule out any next-gen pretensions for the Wii U"
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Pachterballs
Banned
called it.Not next gen.
sub par current gen even.
sub par current gen even.
This one photo is shaking the foundations of gaming. I'm going to make a movie about it.
I get the joy of being blown away by games I want to play. It's a twofer!
I get the joy of being blown away by games I want to play. It's a twofer!
j0hnny_385
Member
I never owned a Wii but I've seen a ton great games released for it even though it was a tech orphan compared to X360/PS3. If nothing, Wii U will be the same. Have great, amazing games on sub-par hardware (compared to Orbis/Durango). I'm not worried about Wii U at all.
tkscz
Member
If they don't want to know the full story, then don't force it on them I say. So yes, leave them ignorant to it.
Hey man, the Wii U is getting The Witcher 3, right?
You promised me and the entire populous of NeoGAF that Wii U would get the games that PS4/Xbox the Third will get!
IrishNinja
Member
you joke, but nintendo stopped pushing their tech right around when sega exited the hardware game
coincidence?
shinobi602
Member
Soo, third parties will never make games for next gen consoles then? It's a slippery slope argument.
You won't sell systems if they don't have games, and you won't have games unless people buy your system.
BigTnaples
Todd Howard's Secret GAF Account
Finally we can lay this to rest. Though it is something most of us have known for a while now.
3rd party support will start to fall off on Feb 20th once buzz for Orbis starts. Then by the time E3 rolls around and tons of games are shown, Durango is known, etc. the WiiU will be the last thing anyone is discussing.
Lightening struck with the Wii, but Nintendo was foolish to try it twice. The WiiU will get the same "Not even the same game" ports of big games like the Wii did once the next two consoles arive.
3rd party support will start to fall off on Feb 20th once buzz for Orbis starts. Then by the time E3 rolls around and tons of games are shown, Durango is known, etc. the WiiU will be the last thing anyone is discussing.
Lightening struck with the Wii, but Nintendo was foolish to try it twice. The WiiU will get the same "Not even the same game" ports of big games like the Wii did once the next two consoles arive.
You're probably right this is only talked into in console wars threads anyway, I guess I'll spend that less time on GAF if that's the only thing they want to talk about...
Then again if the whole Wii thing taught us anything is that people here really don't like to hear like it actually is
the industry is out to screw them not to be their friend
And I can't believe we're in 2013 and people still cling to the "casuals destroyed Nintendo" meme, that's some mindnumbingly stupid thing to even consider.
Well that is such a dumb thing to do, I mean being obsessed about the specs only to win some e-penis contest that Nintendo was obviously never going to win, I like graphics but thats why I have a PC, consoles work on a completely different level and arguing merely about raw numbers with them is a little silly.
Bony Manifesto
Member
Yeah, because he's clearly an impartial source!
Exactly what someone would say to shareholders.
I mean what, you think companies actively admit disparaging articles are true to investors or even just the general public? Go invest in Blackberry and ask them about the shitty camera in the Z10 or invest in EA and ask them about how bad MOH: Warfighter is. Think they'll own up to them? They wont.
Bojanglez
The Amiga Brotherhood
I didn't realise anyone seriously thought this was anything other than PS3/360 level tech. As a Wii U owner I'm comfortable with that as it is the only way I will get to play the latest Mario and Zelda games, I feel sorry for anyone that has bought it thinking otherwise.
gamergirly
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I don't think either Super Mario 3D U or Zelda U care about not being on more powerful, $499 systems. Or the millions that will buy them
:lol
Something something hidden cores something.
Justzisguyukno
Member
It might be to early to tell, but the ps2/xbox -> ps3/360 was definitely a huge leap in graphics.
What if the next gen doesn't blow people away and the leap, despite all the power, isn't as noticeable?
What if the next gen doesn't blow people away and the leap, despite all the power, isn't as noticeable?
AstroNut325
Member
Lol! Indeed!
And like someone said... Thank you. We finally have answers. Very disappointing answers.
tkscz
Member
Like I said before, it's best to leave this thread be. You, I and a few others know what's really going on. So honestly, what does it matter if the rest of gaf doesn't?
Ok... so where are the games that show that hidden power ? It's just Ps3/X360 level nothing to write about. Comparing it to Durango or Orbis is mental.
shinobi602
Member
Well, at least we'll get Durango/Orbis visuals on Wii UU in 5-6 years.
blu
Wants the largest console games publisher to avoid Nintendo's platforms.
Do you know what a feedback loop is?
would you be able to make Halo 4 on the WiiU then..?
This passive-aggressive shtick is wearing thin.
Omegasquash
Member
I don't think it's the hardware that sets Nintendo back...it's their mentality. The hardware is a reflection thereof.
That said, they're capable of publishing and developing wonderful titles and it's the gameplay that makes a difference for me and lots of other gamers. Balancing that against hardware that's behind the times and a lack of titles available on other systems (which in all fairness is too early to tell) is what I think will play heavily into whether Nintendo will crush it this gen. They aren't doomed...not in the least. They do need to get with the times, though.
That said, they're capable of publishing and developing wonderful titles and it's the gameplay that makes a difference for me and lots of other gamers. Balancing that against hardware that's behind the times and a lack of titles available on other systems (which in all fairness is too early to tell) is what I think will play heavily into whether Nintendo will crush it this gen. They aren't doomed...not in the least. They do need to get with the times, though.
And the quote worthy posts start to roll in.
Honestly, the port performance doesn't indicate much yet. We know the RAM bandwidth is an issue, but the likely culprit for poor port performance is the CPU. Without redesigning an engine to take proper advantage of the CPU, compromises will have to be made to retrofit it as it's a completely different architecture. Yeah, I believe it was a poor decision on Nintendo's part to choose an architecture that was so incompatible with current systems, but I don't think judging the capabilities of the system on these port efforts is fair at this time.
They aren't even that appealing, they are going to have issues.
semiconscious
Member
yep. nothing new here. nintendo continues to occupy a zone of its own. where sony/ms position themselves is totally irrelevant to both nintendo & nintendo gamers. & whether or not this approach will be successful this time around (wasn't for gc, was for wii) is unknown right now...
Depends how low you set the bar.
Wii UU? So Wii Double-U? I'd skip straight to UUii, personally.
shinobi602
Member
They're not dismissing it. Just dismissing it as a competitor to Orbis/Durango on a technical level:
Felix Lighter
Member
I'm honestly curious, is it possible to summarize what is inaccurate or incomplete and how it impacts the conclusion of the article? I saw the link to the other thread but my low level hardware knowledge is lacking.
Don't worry guys. The next Zelda game that plays just like the last one will still look amazing!!
Really, it seems Nintendo took a very superficial view of how the market would react to this machine based purely on the belief that all the grandmother's that bought a Wii had suddenly turned into real gamers or Nintendo fans.
Really, it seems Nintendo took a very superficial view of how the market would react to this machine based purely on the belief that all the grandmother's that bought a Wii had suddenly turned into real gamers or Nintendo fans.
Projectjustice
Banned
Because you are playing Multplayer where the Wii U version runs identical to the 360 version.
This is where people are wrong. Sony and MS's position going into next-gen is completely relevant to Nintendo especially when Nintendo is trying to fluff up the Wii U to be a competitor to Orbis/Durango with games as well as services. This is the reason why so much focus has been on what moves Nintendo is making because this was supposed to be their solo year to have the market to themselves before the onslaught of the HD twins. I can't understand why people keep trying to make it seem as if Nintendo is in this vacuum where the actions of Sony/MS doesn't affect or apply to them.
People thought otherwise? I thought with the design of the controller, you were practically demanding exclusive content from the get go for the platform, not ports. I don't think that possibility has diminished, but most of the major players aren't in the market for alternate methods of playing games, so Nintendo is pretty much banking on collaborations, ports of current generation titles, and independent games.
Maybe that ecosystem will be more fruitful for them than it was on Wii in terms of consistent software support of quality. Just don't expect major franchises to be jumping on board for what Wii U's alternative gameplay possibilities are over Orbis/Durangos more powerful hardware.
Maybe that ecosystem will be more fruitful for them than it was on Wii in terms of consistent software support of quality. Just don't expect major franchises to be jumping on board for what Wii U's alternative gameplay possibilities are over Orbis/Durangos more powerful hardware.
shinobi602
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Captain Smoker
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