BarelyLegalAlien
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Please go play Crysis again.
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Dishonored 2 PC performance thread
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Please go play Crysis again.
It's not the GPU, it's your CPU.
With my 4.5GHz 2500K + GTX 1070, I get an almost completely locked 1440p60 if I use the "auto" preset and then manually turn down the texture detail and shadow quality settings to "very low".
If I even turn the texture quality up to "low" the game starts to stutter badly again.
Make sure you also have the game in Borderless Full Screen mode, and Triple Buffering is off.
Crysis looks very clearly last gen unless you mod it up the wazoo for bullshots.
Id like to see this game "remastered" in a few years on id tech 6
RedlineRonin
Member
Really wish there was a demo for this title. I'm running 6700k/1080FE/16GBs and browsing the last couple pages seems like 1080/60 is only possible with some compromises? Kind of bummed, it's $20 at dell.com right now....
With that kind of rig you're good to go @ 1080p, but anything above will cause the fps to fluctuate like crazy.
Theres a video on youtube where a guy runs the game in the lowest possible rez, 640x480, and the game still lags, gtx 970
That's borderline unacceptable for a modern PC game. Textures should be taxing the VRAM, not CPU.
Only other game I've seen do this was Gears 4 with the 'Insane' texture setting that required a minimum of an i7 in order to provide a smooth experience when transitioning through areas.
All id Tech 5 games are like this, Dishonored 2 just seems to be particularly demanding - possibly because the environments are more open than most other games on the same engine.
The way id Tech 5 does virtual texturing means that it requires a really fast CPU to handle texture decoding.
Other games on the same engine often had a lot of virtual texturing settings to let you tune this, but Dishonored 2 doesn't seem to have any user-facing options.
I'm thinking they may have combined them with the "texture quality" option, which is why I can't use anything higher than the "very low" setting.
Just look at how many options Wolfenstein: The Old Blood had for virtual texturing.
On my PC, I had to reduce the "Max PPF" setting to its lowest value to prevent the game from stuttering all the time.
It means that texture pop-in is far more common when you move the camera quickly, but at least it wasn't stuttering.
I can't be certain that this is the cause of the problems with Dishonored 2 since they're using a modified version of the engine, but it would be my best guess since lowering the texture quality fixes the stuttering for me.
Has anyone found a way to enable the console in the game yet?
That would help a lot when trying to figure this out and see if there's anything which can be done to tweak the game to run better on older CPUs beside lowering the texture quality.
Because the stuttering problems are CPU-related, not GPU-related.
Not necessarily. The frame pacing issues affect both 30 and 60 for me. I'm on a 1060/4670k@4.2. And even running on low settings at 720, I cant get a solid lock onto any framerate. Even if my FPS without vsync is 100+.
PC specs are not indicative of whether or not you might experience the frame pacing issues.
My advice to anybody is to buy it directly from steam first. The issues, if you have them, are plain as day within minutes of play. If your framerates are solid yet the game still stutters? Refund. Dont be an idiot like me and waste more than 2 hours trying to fix it. There is no solution at this stage. Get you money back or shelf it till the next patch comes out, if it ever does. If that doesn't fix the issue, it never will be fixed.
If an id Tech 5 game is crashing, it usually means that your GPU has an unstable overclock.
The way those games stress the GPU seems to be different from other engines, so what might appear to be stable in other games is not stable with them. Many people blame the games for this rather than their system.
It's similar to the way that Intel CPUs may appear to be stable at a certain overclock but then you give them an AVX workload and the system will crash every time.
Drop your GPU clockspeed enough and you should find that the game stops crashing. With Maxwell cards I typically had to drop the overclock by 50-100MHz from what was "stable" in other games.
Signor Rossi
Banned
Steam just now updated Dishonored 2 beta branch.
banjoted
Member
I didn't realise so many people were still struggling with this. Bummer.
I bought it on a whim and largely oblivious to the problems. Runs nice and smooth at 1440p unlocked with no obvious problems that I can recall. I have a 1070 and 3700k and a Gsync monitor, so no v-sync for me. Wasn't framecounting but it felt 60fps.
I bought it on a whim and largely oblivious to the problems. Runs nice and smooth at 1440p unlocked with no obvious problems that I can recall. I have a 1070 and 3700k and a Gsync monitor, so no v-sync for me. Wasn't framecounting but it felt 60fps.
CrichtonKicks
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New patch seems to have fixed my frame pacing issues. Smooth as butter now.
Huge Succeeded
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400 mb. wonder what it does?
There's a news article on VG24/7 on the update. Seems they focused on gameplay fixes with this patch.
CrichtonKicks
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Again, this patch solved my stuttering issues. Game now feels just as fluid to play as Dishonored 1.
Poot Poot Splash
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So is this game playable now? Was waiting for at least 60fps.
Metroidvania
People called Romanes they go the house?
Well, at least now Strong arm won't make choking out take longer.....lol.
Good to see the patches coming, though.
The game works in fullscreen when I press Alt-Enter in borderless mode but doesn't even load when I change to fullscreen via the options menu. My 970 isn't even overclocked.
Don't you play with my heart like this... I'm going to test the beta when I get home. This is the main issue I have.
CrichtonKicks
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Fingers crossed that it's the same for everyone.
Spartancarver
Member
Wait, what?
Is THAT why the game would stutter like mad for me in between encounters? God dammit.
Just finished updating drivers and game. Tested it, and it's fantastic! It's actually running at a decent level of performance now. Like you said earlier it's now as smooth as Dishonored 1.
Specs for my system are i7-6700HQ, 16GB RAM, GTX 970M.
Very High preset with HBAO+ and disabled adaptive resolution at 1080P - ~40 - 60fps
After lowering the resolution to 1600 x 900 I get ~ 50 - 60 FPS.
Forgot to mention, stuttering issue is gone now, but long start-up load times are still here.
I'm pretty happy with this update.
Laurentius
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I recorded a video with the previous patch and then I used the exact location while facing the same direction and recorded the same video which was basically walking forward for 5 seconds, as I said, no increase at all
DarKshodaN
Member
wow game runs great now with the latest beta patch, didn't expect that
i7 6700
GTX 1070
16GB DDR4
i7 6700
GTX 1070
16GB DDR4
Laurentius
Member
I recorded a video with the previous patch and then I used the exact location while facing the same direction and recorded the same video which was basically walking forward for 5 seconds, as I said, no increase at all
I wasn't doubting you. Just pointing out how wildly performance always varies for people depending on hardware and setup.
I could not say exactly but the 10 minutes I played felt like the previous Dishonored. They also fixed the annoying "press entrer to load". The only thing that I'm sure of is that I'm enjoying visiting the Addermire Institute.
I'm using a i5 750@4.0Ghz, 16 GB ram and a 970 with all options activated and the others at medium in 1080p.
CrichtonKicks
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My pacing issues were resolved with this patch.
I don't really agree with that.
It implies that PC game performance is inherently inconsistent/unreliable.
As always, I would say that the difference is perception, not performance.
What I consider to be smooth performance (V-Synced and never dropping a frame below 60) is definitely not what many PC gamers consider to be "smooth performance".
For example:
The highlighted sections all contradict.
I could be mistaken, but I seem to remember the original Dishonored never dropping below 60 FPS on my old GTX 570 at 1080p, without any frame pacing/stutter issues.
It definitely was not "~40 - 60fps" and I would not call that "fantastic" performance.
Since their framerate is below 60 FPS and performance goes up when they drop the resolution, it means that they're being GPU-limited in this test before they are CPU-limited.
You have to eliminate the GPU bottleneck before you will see performance issues caused by the CPU.
If they're happy with how it's running now, that's fine.
But it has not been fixed at all, and I don't believe that some of these issues are things which can be "fixed" - the problem is that it's a CPU-heavy game and old CPUs just cannot handle it.
I will say that it does seem somewhat improved with this patch once you've been through an area.
In Karnaca, it seems to be using around 3.8GB of VRAM at 1080p on very low texture quality settings now, when it was previously using about 2.8GB of VRAM.
So they seem to be caching more in memory, but that doesn't prevent the game from stuttering when it loads things in the first time.
Good post.
I am always a bit baffled at the claims that the game runs perfectly fine within a range of FPS drops and some stutter.
I guess in some games it works better than others. Console tends to come to mind. But for FPS i always stand by locked 60fps with zero dips. Doom was a perfect example on how to do it right. Obviously different tech.
Laurentius
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Even if it's a case of differing perceptions of what's acceptable my comment about "PC gaming in a nutshell" still stands...You seem to have taken my comment as being some sort of defense of the game and Arkane? Not sure how exactly you got that.
CrichtonKicks
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For me, my framerate issues were minimized after the first patch and went completely away after the second patch.
What didn't go away was the stutter that would occur even with a locked 60 fps, 16.6 ms frametime. Someone on a previous page posted a video from Evil Within doing the same thing. Statistics look perfect but there visible hitching where there shouldn't be.
This is the first patch that corrected that issue for me.
This is what i have. I thought this was the frame pacing issue, that even when you have a good fps locked it feels like a stutter.
Latest patch in Karnaca with GTX 1080 (1440p, very high), now getting almost constant 60+ with very high settings but not with ultra.
https://youtu.be/fQ7G75kGFEM
https://youtu.be/fQ7G75kGFEM
Snoogans2you
Neo Member
The frame pacing is still messed up though, which is my biggest problem.
CrichtonKicks
Member
Yea. the stutter in that video when running around and panning is very evident.
I don't have a high framerate monitor or G-Sync so maybe I don't understand how it works at high framerates but shouldn't that be expected with V-Sync disabled? Constantly fluctuating framerates are going to create constantly changing frametimes, no?