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Do people consistently like Nomura's designs?
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KeyChainDude
Member
His lines are so unique. Bold, simple and clean. I really love his style.
AppleSeason
Member
It's pretty much hit or miss. I like most of his stuff except for the Advent Children redesigns, yet... Kingdom Hearts. I'm still trying to forget what he did with Setzler. I really like the XIII organisation designs, but when I think about the main characters and the Zippers... Somebody will end with a testicle accident in Kingdom Hearts 3.
CaviarMeths
Member
Japanese Rob Liefeld? I would say I consistently dislike his designs. Even his more tasteful, elegant designs, he just can't help himself, he ruins them with excess and hairspray.
I really like about... 5 of his designs. Tops. And that's only if I don't look at them for too long and start noticing details. Details like... ankle belts. Why?
I will say in his favor though that his work is distinctive, it has identity. At least he's not cranking out generic moe blobs or something.
I really like about... 5 of his designs. Tops. And that's only if I don't look at them for too long and start noticing details. Details like... ankle belts. Why?
I will say in his favor though that his work is distinctive, it has identity. At least he's not cranking out generic moe blobs or something.
You are extremely pathetic. Why does it insult you so if a man has slightly more effeminate a face? Besides, his designs aren't even all that effeminate. You might look at Amano for androgynous faces, but very few of Nomura's male characters are all that effeminate.
And way to pick one of his most over the top designs that is far from the norm for him. He has plenty of more down-to-earth designs than Lulu's belt-dress.
And when has it become a crime for a character designer to have some similar character designs/hair styles. Nomura is far from the worst offender. Amano's work is way more samey, even if his style is more distinctive. Nomura isn't even nearly as bad as someone like Toriyama with his Dragon Ball Z like style being used in everything he uses. Yeah, Nomura has some spiky-haired characters like Sora, Cloud & Neku, but he's designed plenty of characters that are nothing like those. And even then, there are some really noticeable stylistic differences with the designs of Sora, Cloud & Neku. You could think they aren't even from the same artist, even if the spiky hair-style is similar (but that's not exclusive to Nomura).
Says the person with this as his avatar
That's way more excessive than most of Nomura's designs.
Frozenprince
Banned
His shading and use of contrast in his linework is really top notch. Smooth and clean, no excess for flair or anything. Really really nice.
Also Nomura can draw limbs and appendages. Liefeld has to throw straps on everything and give people three toes because he can't draw anything below the waist or outside the torso.
Dixon's Jet
Banned
If someone is paying him for those designs I'd imagine the answer is yes.
ZeroTheShadow
Member
He's terrible. His style epitomizes everything people criticize about current Japanese character designs. But for as bad as an artist as he is, he's way worse as a director.
Astral Dog
Member
He is alright, has made some really unique and iconic designs over the years, and also a few stinkers.
The only problem is with him (sometimes) being the face/mascot of Square Enix, his hatred is overblown.
The only problem is with him (sometimes) being the face/mascot of Square Enix, his hatred is overblown.
T.Slothrop
Member
Really don't like his stuff. It's very generic, middle of the road illustration. It has broad appeal for sure, but it can't hold a candle to the work done by Amano, Shinkawa or Yoshida.
Spoken like someone who hasn't seen anything beyond Lulu's belt-dress and who doesn't know anything about Nomura as a director/designer/overall creative person.
entremet
Member
Yoshida is amazing.
CaviarMeths
Member
Nomura is a much better artist than Liefeld, but I hold their designs in about the same esteem. There is a Nomura zipper for every Liefeld pouch.
Wouldn't catch me doing avatar call-outs in a Nomura thread with a tag like that.
Dragon1893
Member
Really hit or miss for me.
Generally Nomura's characters don't even have all that many belts & zippers. He has a few characters with a few too many zippers and Lulu'z belt-dress is infamous, but those are usually outliers.
Shitty try trying to dismiss my perfectly fair point because of my tag that some sad little mod gave me because I wasn't as pessimistic as other people. Doesn't change the fact that your avatar's character design is far more excessive than a majority of Nomura's designs (and doesn't even differ from some of Nomura's designs all that much, in some ways)
Damn.
Frozenprince
Banned
Aesthetically he prefers usually minimalist armor with casual wear. Like a metal pauldron on a dudes jacket or something. His zippers thing is really only in KH and even then, people make it out to be worse than it is.
Rob Liefeld is a BAD artist. His stuff has 0 artistic or creative merit. That's without even getting into the abomination that is his writing. Even people who hate Nomura have to at least admit he's a good artist with a style they don't like. Liefeld is just a bad artist with a style nobody likes.
threelights
Member
I think that's something he drew for an album cover for Utada Hikaru (woman who sings the KH intros)... Something like that at least.
Mr. Poolman
Member
In his mind everyone is slim, spiky haired and has the same vapid empty eyes.
I'm not fond of his designs.
I'm not fond of his designs.
I remember someone on GAF once saying that Nomura was a flawlessly technical artist, who clearly had skill and merit, but was a bit crazy with the design element to his art. (I think it was a mod, but I'm not sure).
I agree. A lot of his line-work that you can see from time to time demonstrates his raw ability, which is both distinctive - in that you can tell when it is his work, even when he extends himself stylistically - and well constructed.
My opinion of him has decreased over the years, though. While he has remained highly competent, I really liked this 90s-era blue-hue and tones. Peoples suffered from having same-face more prominently, but just the 'temperature' he would pick for colors seemed more aesthetically attractive to me now (versus the more saturated hues he goes for these days, especially since KH).
His KH proportions and thicker lines, which are prominent in the Samurai Legend Musashi artwork, have become a bit too prevalent in his Final Fantasy stuff, though. I think he needs more time to experiment again.
tl;dr Great artist, but his design work has gotten worse with time for me.
I agree. A lot of his line-work that you can see from time to time demonstrates his raw ability, which is both distinctive - in that you can tell when it is his work, even when he extends himself stylistically - and well constructed.
My opinion of him has decreased over the years, though. While he has remained highly competent, I really liked this 90s-era blue-hue and tones. Peoples suffered from having same-face more prominently, but just the 'temperature' he would pick for colors seemed more aesthetically attractive to me now (versus the more saturated hues he goes for these days, especially since KH).
His KH proportions and thicker lines, which are prominent in the Samurai Legend Musashi artwork, have become a bit too prevalent in his Final Fantasy stuff, though. I think he needs more time to experiment again.
tl;dr Great artist, but his design work has gotten worse with time for me.
BrianRoyale
Member
The Rob Liefeld of videogames.
lord_of_flood
Member
He's a fantastic artist that goes very overboard with design ideas. IMO it drags down the quality of his art. However, when he shows restraint, his art looks incredibly clean and sharp.
Accurate. But with more zippers, parachute pants, buckles, folded top boots.
Nom's character design is extremely problematic and his clothing choices are literally the worst.
SoulUnison
Banned
He's one of my favorite character designers, if not my absolute favorite.
He's definitely been on both ends of the spectrum over the years, though.
I consider Kingdom Heart's Sora to be one of the best character designs around - friendly, colorful, recognizable.
Conversely, Final Fantasy X-2's Nooj is one of the worst characters designs that's ever happened.
He's definitely been on both ends of the spectrum over the years, though.
I consider Kingdom Heart's Sora to be one of the best character designs around - friendly, colorful, recognizable.
Conversely, Final Fantasy X-2's Nooj is one of the worst characters designs that's ever happened.
minameissteve
Banned
Aside from his FFX character designs, I pretty much love his art style.
I feel like i'm in a bizarro world where Nomura isn't a good artist
ArkhamFantasy
Member
Where are all these Nomura haters coming from?
Frozenprince
Banned
Etrian Oddity
Member
He's got the most fans, arguably; but critically, I think most will agree he's behind both Amano and Yoshida when it comes to art quality.
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People who like diversity.
DangerMouse
Member
I generally love his character designs.
Agreed. Rob Liefeld doesn't even have a sense of anatomy in many of his drawings, with clipped toes, inaccurate body positions, and impossible musculature.
Say what you will about Nomura's designs, but the man at least knows how to recreate the human form so that it is recognizable as opposed to unintentionally dysmorphic.
OrlanisWorks
Banned
Eh. His style isn't of my taste.
slick7rick
Member
I think his work on FFVII and VIII are absolutely iconic and creative. I used to draw the cast of those games all the time. He went down hill after that, but he still creates some good gems in his pile of crap nowadays. I enjoy his overall style.
striferser
Huge Nickleback Fan
I like most of his design. It got style and all that.
Frozenprince
Banned
LIS at least people who don't like Nomura can recognize he's a good artist. Liefeld is a shit artist that got a lot of comics in the 90's because fuck if I know.
KANYE WEST
Banned
Almost equally parts great and terrible as a designer
Mr. Nice_Guy
Member
Lights and Waves
Member
The designs can be weird, but his illustrations are beautiful. I love the way he draws.
IdreamofHIME
Member
I love his style...this includes his Batman.
The Advent Children designs were great. Tifa especially.