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[Sigismundo]

As long as it's running at 60+fps it is entirely acceptable to take a visual hit.

 

[SmokedMeat]

https://twitter.com/pixelpar/status/908279978332221442

The Switch version holds up nicely! Has 60fps been confirmed?

 

[Scrawnton]

Even though I have a gaming pc and a PS4, I'm gonna buy Doom on Switch because something about playing Doom on a Nintendo system again just feels like forbidden fruit. All over this.

 

[Kyle8497]

I couldn't give a damn about graphics. I'll just be happy to finally be able to play the game after several years since my computer is garbage. I'm used to playing on minimum settings at low-ass resolution.

 

[Cerium]

The Switch version holds up nicely! Has 60fps been confirmed?

Impressions should be coming in a week or so.

 

[Steejee]

That PS4 vs Switch comparison is pretty impressive. Even though the PS4 is a few years old now, the Switch is effectively a portable, so getting a game like Doom that close is a feat.

I already own it on PC, so I won't be buying (plus I hate FPS' on thumbsticks), but it being ported so well to Switch is good to see

 

[nubbe]

https://twitter.com/pixelpar/status/908279978332221442

Wonder if they use a 16GB or 32GB cart.
I would guess 16GB

 

[Revolutionary]

https://twitter.com/pixelpar/status/908279978332221442

Even in these tiny pictures, the rendering resolution difference is palpable. Really curious to know what it's running at.

 

[ozfunghi]

You certainly are not remembering correctly.

It also has a high chance of being 60fps while Skyrim is 30. Doom is also a current gen PS4 game.

Look up Doom on Xbox if you're seriously arguing that Doom 4 on Switch looks worse than Doom 3 on the original Xbox.
Besides, as scalable as idtech is and despite the closed environments, Doom is still a much more recent, much more demanding game than Skyrim. I don't even know how you can honestly overlook this. Skyrim looks great because the system is powerful enough to run a 2011 game at what most would consider high/maximum fidelity. Doom, on the other hand, will always be compromised in some ways. Run Doom and Skyrim on the same computer and you'll see that one runs much better than the other.

You may want to take a look back at OG xbox doom 3. You may be saying that though because doom 3, even on OG box, still had a good amount of stencil shadows in the environment and being casted from monsters and whatnot. The footage here, the game play footage, has presumably eliminated tons of shadow casting lights (their cast shadow flag probably), so as to save on performance.

Doom relies a lot on its lighting, post processing, and shadowing to complement its shading model. If you cut out a lot of the directional lighting, shadowing, and post processing (motion blur for example), you would have the appearance of a much older looking game.

I was talking about this part in particular, which seems really bad.

But i just saw the japanese trailer, and aside from this part, that looks a lot better.

You can check Doom3 BFG on Shield to get an idea on how a Tegra X1 can run Doom 3 and the difference with Doom (2016):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=je7-Ot4zyf0

I wasn't arguing that the Switch couldn't outperform the Xbox, i was arguing that the Switch can do much better than certain parts in that trailer.

 

[tsab]

Doom to use super NX FX chip!

 

[professor denim]

Here is a much better one at the same resolution I just made:

Here you can see the game is using TAA (look at the trails):

Interesting to see the same GPU particles after he opens the door that the higher end version have:

Day 1 if 60fps

 

[Skittzo0413]

I was talking about this part in particular, which seems really bad.



But i just saw the japanese trailer, and aside from this part, that looks a lot better.

It's still in development so I wouldn't be too worried about that. It looks like it may have dynamic resolution scaling and at that part it looks really bad. But we don't know how long this has actually been in development and how much more it will be optimized.

 

[Piccoro]

The Switch version holds up nicely! Has 60fps been confirmed?

I'm sure it will be.
id Software did everything possible to get 60fps on base PS4 and Xbox. Even sacrificing resolution to get it.

 

[ozfunghi]

It's still in development so I wouldn't be too worried about that. It looks like it may have dynamic resolution scaling and at that part it looks really bad. But we don't know how long this has actually been in development and how much more it will be optimized.

That's what i meant. That part does look bad, but on the other hand, the Japanese trailer has parts where it looks a lot better as well.

 

[Zombegoast]

Keep in mind that even if that's the exact same hardware it's running a PC OS on top of the game which draws a huge amount of resources, so it would likely be optimized a lot better for the Switch.

I can see it running at 60fps. It's not a CPU intensive game.

The 920m can't keep a solid 60fps at half the resolution on the Fifa titles.

 

[HeroR]

That PS4 vs Switch comparison is pretty impressive. Even though the PS4 is a few years old now, the Switch is effectively a portable, so getting a game like Doom that close is a feat.

I already own it on PC, so I won't be buying (plus I hate FPS' on thumbsticks), but it being ported so well to Switch is good to see

The game came out in 2016 right? So it's only a year.

 

[Neiteio]

DOOM has awesome boss battles that frankly feel like something out of Metroid Prime. Y'know, bosses with actual patterns and shit, like jumping over/crouching under the Cyber Demon's wave attack.

I'm really excited to see more people try it. I was obsessed with it last year and made like a billion threads on it. :-O

 

[Skittzo0413]

That's what i meant. That part does look bad, but on the other hand, the Japanese trailer has parts where it looks a lot better as well.

Well that's why I think there's dynamic resolution scaling, since some parts look much, much better than that.

The game came out in 2016 right? So it's only a year.

I think they meant the PS4 itself is a few years old, as in the console.

 

[13ruce]

DOOM has awesome boss battles that frankly feel like something out of Metroid Prime. Y'know, bosses with actual patterns and shit, like jumping over/crouching under the Cyber Demon's wave attack.

I'm really excited to see more people try it. I was obsessed with it last year and made like a billion threads on it. :-O

I will throw my 15 bucks ps4 version in the trash or snip it in half and get the Switch version lol. Seriously i aint got time to download that multiplayer. And i rather play it on Switch anyway.

Wonder if they will port fallout 4 too.... Might give it a new chance then.

 

[Neiteio]

I also wonder why the Pinkie looks so large. The player has to be able to jump over the Pinkie — the whole way you defeat them is by getting them to run at you and then jumping over them to shoot them in the butt — so I think the player is just crouching in that scene.

 

[sixteen-bit]

Dynamic res will probably be a thing in this port, right?

I imagine they're aiming for 60fps above all else.

 

[Hot Coldman]

Doom is way too fast for any kind of motion aiming.

 

[Neiteio]

Another thing to note: If the original devs are handling the Switch version, there's no way they'll half-ass it. They were super-proud of the game — it was clearly a passion project for them, not unlike Ubi Milan's work on Mario + Rabbids. There's this sense of joy running through DOOM (despite being a game about alien demons, lol) that's just plain infectious. It's just FUN from the moment your character punches a computer at the start trying to give him plot exposition, and then cocks his shotgun in sync to the music.

Also Doomguy 4 Smash.

 

[Ocarina_117]

Wasn't there a thread calling Doom the most Nintendo non-nintendo game lol.

Good to see these coming to the switch.

 

[sanstesy]

Doom is way too fast for any kind of motion aiming.

Motion aiming is faster and more precise than aiming with sticks. Otherwise, there are no real alternatives when playing with a controller on consoles.

 

[Neiteio]

Wasn't there a thread calling Doom the most Nintendo non-nintendo game lol.

Good to see these coming to the switch.

It feels like something Miyamoto would like, because the focus is 100% on gameplay — the feel, the flow, the feedback.

You have these huge maze-like levels packed full of secrets. The platforming is legitimately GREAT, like Metroid Prime but faster. Of course the mobility and combat is top-notch — your character runs around at 90 mph, smoothly mantling ledges, jumping and double-jumping, weaving past incoming enemy fire that you can clearly see (and thus clearly dodge). You don't take cover here; instead the goal is to keep moving.

DOOM is so much fun, and frankly quite refreshing for a modern-day shooter.

 

[Yu Furealdo]

That really doesn't look too bad, and if it runs well, it could be awesome to have on the go.

 

[Skittzo0413]

Doom is way too fast for any kind of motion aiming.

Do you realize that mouse aiming is a type of motion aiming?

Gyro assist like in BotW is much faster and more precise than just dual analog.

It feels like something Miyamoto would like, because the focus in 100% on gameplay — the feel, the flow, the feedback.

You have these huge maze-like levels packed full of secrets. The platforming is legitimately GREAT, like Metroid Prime but faster. Of course the mobility and combat is top-notch — your character runs around at 90 mph and smoothly mantle ledges, jumping and double-jumping, weaving past incoming enemy fire that you can clearly see (and thus clearly dodge). You don't take cover here; instead the goal is to keep moving.

DOOM is so much fun, and frankly quite refreshing for a modern-day shooter.

Yup. This was such a perfect fit, I've been calling a port for like 11 months now.

 

[Elfotografoalocado]

DOOM was my dream-game on the Switch, and not only is DOOM coming but also Wolfenstein?
I need this in my veins.

 

[BanjoLayleeYookaKazooie]

It feels like something Miyamoto would like, because the focus in 100% on gameplay — the feel, the flow, the feedback.

You have these huge maze-like levels packed full of secrets. The platforming is legitimately GREAT, like Metroid Prime but faster. Of course the mobility and combat is top-notch — your character runs around at 90 mph and smoothly mantle ledges, jumping and double-jumping, weaving past incoming enemy fire that you can clearly see (and thus clearly dodge). You don't take cover here; instead the goal is to keep moving.

DOOM is so much fun, and frankly quite refreshing for a modern-day shooter.

Fully agreed. The polish, the smoothness, the cohesiveness of the gameplay, visuals and the tight controls.

I was surprised at finishing it about his great it was but the more I thought about it and with recent replays of the best chapters everything just clicks and I can't get enough!

 

[Ocarina_117]

It feels like something Miyamoto would like, because the focus in 100% on gameplay — the feel, the flow, the feedback.

You have these huge maze-like levels packed full of secrets. The platforming is legitimately GREAT, like Metroid Prime but faster. Of course the mobility and combat is top-notch — your character runs around at 90 mph and smoothly mantle ledges, jumping and double-jumping, weaving past incoming enemy fire that you can clearly see (and thus clearly dodge). You don't take cover here; instead the goal is to keep moving.

DOOM is so much fun, and frankly quite refreshing for a modern-day shooter.

Really should get back to this game. It's been sitting in my steam library since launch.

May hold off until the switch release.

 

[Neiteio]

DOOM was my dream-game on the Switch, and not only is DOOM coming but also Wolfenstein?
I need this in my veins.

Between DOOM and Rocket League, two of the most fun PS4 games will now be playable on a Nintendo portable. Absolutely insane.

 

[Neiteio]

Did anyone post this? When the music kicks in on DOOM

 

[Nightmare452]

Wow. Already own Doom on PS4, so no need to get it. However, Wolfenstein 2 is a day one on Switch. I was dubious if I would get it this holiday cause of time constraints, but if its coming later, on Switch, portable Wolfen. Easy wait and day one then. Don't mind if it takes a hit and its 30fps and lower resolution, its all good as long as its the same game.

 

[mavericktopgun]

I think Doom will be 60fps while the slower paced Wolfenstein will be 30. I hope so.

 

[Neiteio]

DOOM is a surprisingly funny game. I think new players will be delighted by how funny it can be.

You're not trapped with the demons. The demons are trapped with YOU, and they know it.

Also, the level design is tits in this game

 

[Widge]

Wasn't the linear design for FPS pretty much gone by the time we hit this gen anyway?

 

[sanstesy]

Bethesda really chose wisely porting DOOM early on to the Switch. Not only is the console in need of quality FPS games - it is also a very recent game, has good WoM and history with Nintendo consoles. In addition, DOOM could no doubt use some more units sold.

The perfect candidate for a Switch port and it will benefit both parties.

 

[Neiteio]

If Skyrim and DOOM sell well (and they will), this is going to be a big turning point for third parties on Switch, methinks.

 

[molnizzle]

If Skyrim and DOOM sell well (and they will), this is going to be a big turning point for third parties on Switch, methinks.

I'm triple dipping on all them shits just for the portability novelty alone.

Switch has a bright future brehs.

 

[JonnyDBrit]

Perhaps I'm being too hopeful here, but if DOOM (and Wolfenstein) performs well on Switch, in terms of framerate vs resolution and all, it could provide another argument for the uptake of Vulkan as an API. Because if using such can make games that might otherwise struggle, function on what is currently an in-demand device, then that is an incentive to do so.

 

[Naked Snake]

I couldn't give a damn about graphics. I'll just be happy to finally be able to play the game after several years since my computer is garbage. I'm used to playing on minimum settings at low-ass resolution.

After several years? Doom came out last year.

 

[Skittzo0413]

If Skyrim and DOOM sell well (and they will), this is going to be a big turning point for third parties on Switch, methinks.

It feels like Bethesda is already on board with porting new games- hopefully in the future day and date- onto the Switch. Activision will surely be interested in these sales, EA and Ubisoft may be too considering they haven't brought anything like these games yet.

Imagine a magical timeline where we get a "Skyrim/DOOM sold more on Switch than all other platforms combined" thread. That would be an incredible thread.

 

[Phoenixus]

Question for people that have already played the game. Would you recommend DOOM to someone that usually doesn't like or enjoy FPSes? Been a long time since one has gelled with me but I'd like to support Bethesda's efforts. And the fact that the multiplayer is an optional download is a huge plus to me personally, not a fan of FPS multiplayer at all.

 

[Alcotholic]

Question for people that have already played the game. Would you recommend DOOM to someone that usually doesn't like or enjoy FPSes? Been a long time since one has gelled with me but I'd like to support Bethesda's efforts. And the fact that the multiplayer is an optional download is a huge plus to me personally, not a fan of FPS multiplayer at all.

Yes.
I'm not a huge fan of FPS games, but this one is just pure fun. It's chaotic and doesn't require precise aiming. It's closer to an arcade shooter or a shmup.

 

[Skittzo0413]

Question for people that have already played the game. Would you recommend DOOM to someone that usually doesn't like or enjoy FPSes? Been a long time since one has gelled with me but I'd like to support Bethesda's efforts. And the fact that the multiplayer is an optional download is a huge plus to me personally, not a fan of FPS multiplayer at all.

Yes, the last FPS I enjoyed before DOOM was probably Goldeneye 64 (unless Jedi Outcast counts). It actually feels like a classic FPS from the good old days, the maps are incredibly varied with lots of twisting paths and secrets, and the actual gameplay has a lot of Metroid Prime feel to it, what with double jumping, platforming, and trying to figure out how to get from point A to point B.

It's an incredibly good game, and I really can't stand most FPS's.

 

[Shiggy]

Looks like NoE will distribute (or publish?) the game in Europe.

 

[The Main Event]

Did anyone post this? When the music kicks in on DOOM

LOOOOL

 

[Phoenixus]

Yes.
I'm not a huge fan of FPS games, but this one is just pure fun. It's chaotic and doesn't require precise aiming. It's closer to an arcade shooter or a shmup.

Okay, that's promising, definitely along my interests.

Yes, the last FPS I enjoyed before DOOM was probably Goldeneye 64 (unless Jedi Outcast counts). It actually feels like a classic FPS from the good old days, the maps are incredibly varied with lots of twisting paths and secrets, and the actual gameplay has a lot of Metroid Prime feel to it, what with double jumping, platforming, and trying to figure out how to get from point A to point B.

It's an incredibly good game, and I really can't stand most FPS's.

Okay, I think you just completely sold me on it. My last enjoyed FPS was also Goldeneye (with Timesplitters 3 being a notable roadblock) and that sounds exactly what I'd enjoy. Thanks to both of you.

 

[thatJohann]

Isn’t the doom engine some wizardry? I’m sure it will be 60fps