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Dragon Age Inquisition cutscene micro stutter during all cutscenes
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JetBlackPanda
Member
Love the game but until we get a word on a patch I am going back to Destiny. The cutscenes are completely ruined as it stands right now. I thought my HDD was still installing or something.
It certainly is game breaking and immersion breaking for several in this thread already.
2002whitegt
Member
I had the problem until I closed FRAPS on pc, after that cutscenes were fine. With FRAPS on I would get a stutter during gameplay as well.
Hopefully it gets patched, because this game is awesome.
Hopefully it gets patched, because this game is awesome.
StudioTan
Hold on, friend! I'd love to share with you some swell news about the Windows 8 Metro UI! Wait, where are you going?
Game breaking means you literally cannot play the game due to a bug, not that you choose to not play it because something annoys you or breaks your immersion.
I noticed the issue on PC when I was streaming with Steam to my projector but when I played on my actual PC yesterday it wasn't there, so I assumed it was happening because of the streaming. Going to try the fix posted earlier in the thread if it happens again.
I find the "immersion breaking" complaints mildly funny given that this is a Bioware game. Trademark stilted conversations, writing, and faces are a staple of their games, there couldn't possibly be any immersion in the first place to break as irritating as this stuttering might be.
Also, Bioware saying "too much work" to fix is really shitty imo.
Also, Bioware saying "too much work" to fix is really shitty imo.
BrianRoyale
Member
Thought I might have been crazy, but it only appears to effect cut scenes, I hope there's a patch for this.
Other than that I'm loving the game so far.
(PS4)
Other than that I'm loving the game so far.
(PS4)
Have a Nice Day
Member
Fixing it would be a lot of work?! What the hell kind of response was that?
One of the best regarded RPG developers in gaming who has created multiple series beloved for their immersive world and characters. But you're right, they're total amateurs.
I'm having a hard time believing you're actually trying to argue that the character facial animations and conversations are actually immersive. The world itself is fine, which is why I hadn't mentioned it- and the world obviously wouldn't suffer from cutscene stuttering. It can be a good game but have stiff faces- something that shouldn't surprise anyone.
But this is on a brand new engine for Bioware and they say the 30fps limit is due to synchronization (and probably their 30fps console target) but apparently increasing it to 60fps without bugs and glitches isn't as simple as it was in previous games.
This thread isn't about hating on Bioware. The game itself is amazing, including the writing. The technical issues however are inexcusable.
JeffG
Member
a Honest one?
It was an excuse! It never should have been released with that issue present!
paperspace
Member
So you're actually being serious? You're comparing mediocre animations (though functional) with constant stuttering?
And somehow the latter is redundant because the former is present.
Have you seen them say this?
RPGCrazied
Member
Ugh. I also get this. Thank god its nothing wrong with my new PS4. But yeah, gameplay is smooth, then a cutscene happens and its a jutter/stutter fest. I also thought it was merely still installing the game, but nope. Installing done, still does it. I really hope this gets fixed, but if not oh well. At least the game has 0 tearing.
TetraGenesis
Member
It gets more bothersome the more I play. 
What are you talking about? All ME/DA games have always had janky as fuck cutscenes..
BigTnaples
Todd Howard's Secret GAF Account
Hoping they patch this before I pick this up. Should be finishing Far Cry 4 soon and then I want to finish either MCC or GTA before I buy a new game. Trying to get a grip on my backlog.
BigTnaples
Todd Howard's Secret GAF Account
So there is a patch out today... any fix?
Not out yet.
I've found that the cutscene animation stutter is worse in certain cutscenes. Especially at the start of the game.
I tried that command line fix that allows cutscenes to run at 60 FPS and noticed something really strange: There are a few scenes at the start where it's snowing in the background. The snow was moving at 60 FPS while the characters were stuttering along at something clearly below 30 FPS.
Since my framerate didn't approach 60 in many post-intro areas, I dropped the command line tweak and I'm just dealing with the 30 FPS cutscenes. The sub-30 animation stutters are less common as the game goes on.
I tried that command line fix that allows cutscenes to run at 60 FPS and noticed something really strange: There are a few scenes at the start where it's snowing in the background. The snow was moving at 60 FPS while the characters were stuttering along at something clearly below 30 FPS.
Since my framerate didn't approach 60 in many post-intro areas, I dropped the command line tweak and I'm just dealing with the 30 FPS cutscenes. The sub-30 animation stutters are less common as the game goes on.
The problem seems to be that certain animations are played at lower than 30 FPS - one perfect example is here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XylZSWxlbEA#t=98
You can see that every fifth frame, the bodies freeze for a single frame, while other parts (like the snow flakes) continue moving. It also seems like the freeze frame doesn't lead to a bigger delta movement in the next frame (which low FPS but synced animation would have), so it basically feels like the cutscenes stop briefly six times per second.
Strangely enough, it seems to be only character bodies that are affected by this, not their faces or stuff like snow, which makes it even more odd why this happens in the first place.
You can see that every fifth frame, the bodies freeze for a single frame, while other parts (like the snow flakes) continue moving. It also seems like the freeze frame doesn't lead to a bigger delta movement in the next frame (which low FPS but synced animation would have), so it basically feels like the cutscenes stop briefly six times per second.
Strangely enough, it seems to be only character bodies that are affected by this, not their faces or stuff like snow, which makes it even more odd why this happens in the first place.
IIRC, Blizzard did a similar thing for Diablo 3 on PS4 and X1. Environments, characters, etc. are processed through separate frames rates.
I think it could be a deliberate move by BioWare to make sure that the game runs decently on the new consoles. Why it still craps out on PC I don't know.
Extra Sauce
Member
I wish I had not bought this game on PS4. As someone who plays Bioware games largely for the story/cutscenes, the microstuttering issue ruins the part I care most about.
Will play on PC eventually... too bad I already unwittingly encouraged this sort of practice with my dollars. Did no review mention this?
Will play on PC eventually... too bad I already unwittingly encouraged this sort of practice with my dollars. Did no review mention this?
lastplayed
Member
Never noticed it on Xbox One, even in all the videos I've uploaded. That must really suck, microstuttering drives me insane.
The English Conquistador
Member
Yeah I bought this the other day and holy shit a lot of the animations etc are some Mass Effect 1 shit. I mean how are we still getting animations like this from Bioware? They've never been great but with a new generation I would've thought this kinda issue wouldn't be as prevalent in their games.
jacob armitage
Banned
It really breaks the immersion for me and is frustrating. I know it shouldn't bother me that much, but it does :/
bananafactory
Banned
It's terrible, Alien Isolation had the same problem which eventually got patched. I held off playing DA for a month hoping it would get fixed, but alas I gave up because I don't think they will ever address it
CitizenCope
Member
Man I'm a frame rate junky but my eyes aren't catching this on my PS4 for some reason.
BigTnaples
Todd Howard's Secret GAF Account
I was really concerned about this before buying it, but got it and played it only after the latest patch. Never noticed the stuttering?
Caio
Member
I Spent 79,99 for the PS4 Digital Deluxe edition, it doesn't work. It gives me error CE-34878-0, an error has occurred with an application, this is what I'm supposed to do :
Step 1: Close the application, install the latest system software and game update, and restart the system.
Step 2: If a PS Camera is connected to the system, remove it and reboot the system, then go to [Settings] > [User] > [Login Settings] and turn "Enable Face Recognition" OFF.
Step 3: If you have upgraded the Hard Disk Drive (HDD) in your console, please re-install the original HDD.
Step 4: If the error occurs again, back up your saved data, and then go to [Settings] > [Initialization] and choose [Initialize PS4].
Step 5: If the error continues and occurs with every application, or as soon as the application starts, please contact PlayStation Support.
All steps done, the game does not start.
It took 25 seconds to rebuild my database as I inizialized PS4 a week ago and re-installed only 3 games.
I never had a problem with any game on PS3 and PS4, apart from Dragon Age. Now, many people are playing Dragon Age on PS4; so, the question is, what's wrong with the combination DA and my PS4 ??? Can data saved from other games create such an issue ? Is the OS ? If I inizialize PS4, the OS is not touched, right ? But If I rebuild the database, in this case I touch somehow the OS and I might solve the problem ?!
By the way, with PS4 initialization it doesn't work, rebuilding database in safe mode does not work, no way to start this DA.
And even more fantastic,a girl from the Italian Official Playstation assistance told me that the problem is my PS4. DA:I does not start because I have a faulty PS4. But wait, I bought 20 games and all play perfectly, not even half a problem with any application, with anything, Now Dragon Aga does not start, and my PS4 'becomes' faulty...
I'm speechless. Any suggestion is welcome.
Step 1: Close the application, install the latest system software and game update, and restart the system.
Step 2: If a PS Camera is connected to the system, remove it and reboot the system, then go to [Settings] > [User] > [Login Settings] and turn "Enable Face Recognition" OFF.
Step 3: If you have upgraded the Hard Disk Drive (HDD) in your console, please re-install the original HDD.
Step 4: If the error occurs again, back up your saved data, and then go to [Settings] > [Initialization] and choose [Initialize PS4].
Step 5: If the error continues and occurs with every application, or as soon as the application starts, please contact PlayStation Support.
All steps done, the game does not start.
It took 25 seconds to rebuild my database as I inizialized PS4 a week ago and re-installed only 3 games.
I never had a problem with any game on PS3 and PS4, apart from Dragon Age. Now, many people are playing Dragon Age on PS4; so, the question is, what's wrong with the combination DA and my PS4 ??? Can data saved from other games create such an issue ? Is the OS ? If I inizialize PS4, the OS is not touched, right ? But If I rebuild the database, in this case I touch somehow the OS and I might solve the problem ?!
By the way, with PS4 initialization it doesn't work, rebuilding database in safe mode does not work, no way to start this DA.
And even more fantastic,a girl from the Italian Official Playstation assistance told me that the problem is my PS4. DA:I does not start because I have a faulty PS4. But wait, I bought 20 games and all play perfectly, not even half a problem with any application, with anything, Now Dragon Aga does not start, and my PS4 'becomes' faulty...
I'm speechless. Any suggestion is welcome.
You don't know what a good cRPG is then. Divinity OS was miles better.
D
Deleted member 325805
Unconfirmed Member
The gameplay is so smooth and gorgeous but the cut scenes are a choppy mess. It's a shame they didn't implement 60fps cut scenes with proper animations on PC, it blemishes a masterpiece.