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Dragon Ball FighterZ adds Yamcha and Tenshinhan + original character Android 21
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redmetal86
Member
17 and 18 are not cyborgs. A cyborg would have machine parts in them. They don't. They're biologically enhanced humans.
So IMO the question "Why does 21 have glasses" doesn't make much sense. For all we know she could have normal organic human eyes just like 17 and 18 and she could just happen to have an eye disorder.
What about the shut down mechanism, and the bombs (before being wished away)? Those are both cybernetic components.
papertoonz
Member
go look at dragon ball heroes if you want that kind of stuff
DiipuSurotu
Banned
Yes they were the only machine parts in them, and they were a safeguard mechanism for Dr. Gero rather than the source of their power enhancement. They weren't so much cybernetic components as they were just foreign matter shoved in them. Shenron removed those parts but couldn't remove the enhancement since it's fully biological.
Unspeakable Evil
Member
Think about Nappa and Raditz in 2017, brehs
N30RYU
Member
no thanks... this is worst than ss3 vegeta or ss3 broly.
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Vital Tundra
Member
Nappa has just been a meme to me ever since TFS started doing the abridged series. Raditz has nothing to offer, in my opinion. Tien is dope as hell, though.
Also I love Launch.
Also I love Launch.
I thought they had generators or something like that? Isn't that why they never run out of energy?
Sgt.Pepper
Banned
Except Krillin was one of the most helpful fighters in almost all the series???
Holy Order Sol
Member
stop asking for wack shit smh
Why not Super Saiyan Krillin and Super Saiyan Yamcha instead?
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
The people who like more saiyan are the same people who love broly I take it
Yes, more blonde characters, especially fanfiction ones based off characters that have been irrelevant for years.
Fuck it, let's remove any character that's not a saiyan. We need more room for Super Saiyan Bardock, Super Saiyan 3 Cabba, Super Saiyan Turles, and Super Saiyan Kid Goku.
Saying Tien and Krillin are losers but then brings up Nappa....
What is this slander? Nappa's awesome. He was a fucking terror in the Saiyan Saga.
NoSkillz187
Member
I would love Nappa in this game if they gave him some command grabs. He at least beat the crap out of the Z fighters for most of the Saiyan saga. But we definitely don't need Raditz, lol.
Dark_castle
Junior Member
TFS Nappa is the best DBZ character.
lucebuce12
Member
VEEGEEEEEEEETTAAAAAAA
TFS Nappa becoming a movie producer after he was revived also ended up justifying Mr. Satan's rise to fame in DBZA.
This also brings up a good point, what did Nappa end up doing after he was brought back? Vegeta did work for Frieza when he killed Nappa, so he should have been brought back.
Nappa is literally nothing and the only reason he's relevant is because of Takahata101 making him funny.
Nah, don't agree with you in the slightest. Nappa was great well before TFS was a thing. He's one of the best villains in Z.
UserDoesNotExist
Member
Tien was a beast in Dragon Ball.
Unlike that loser Yamcha, who never won a serious fight even before the Saiyan power escalation. If they're not making him a joke character, I legit think that Launch should be added as the game's joke character.
And end up a higher tier than Yamcha.
Hes not , he's a second in command that gets no expansion upon, and used as a means to show how out of their depth the " z" warriors were. He is a plot device, and not really much more than that. He gets angry a bit... so I guess he felt an emotion at one point.
And when his usefulness is over, vegeta destroy's said plot device because its time for actual characters who have like motivation to enter the scene and be actual interesting characters
He's basically glorified radditz who he is should have more importance to the plot, but it doesn't because he's not a character, he's an obstacle or plot device to get to the actual character. Toriyama has a tendency of doing that, adroit 19 was another such " character" a literally robotic plot device to get to point be. The ginyu force are probably the best excited version of this because they are actually characters and work as plot devices, same with 16. You could argue that babidi is also in this category.
So yeah , nappa is literally a guy meant to be " IF THIS GUY IS SO STRONG HOW STRONG IS VEGETA " and that's his entire life's purpose.
ThePunisher
Neo Member
I would also like to see Nappa, as it would be dope to have some of that old-school saiyan armor in the game.
Well that isn't encouraging...
Lee Chaolan
Member
Tien's gonna kick some ass.
Super may be shitting on you, but you're gonna do some work in this game.
Super may be shitting on you, but you're gonna do some work in this game.
Ghost Nappa for alternate announcer.
None of the this stuff you typed really means a thing to me, dude. He's a very effective villain in the best arc of Z. His destruction of the Z Fighters will always make him one of the more memorable characters in the franchise for me. That's why I like him, and will always dig him as a character. He is a nice simple character who pushed most of the Z-fighters to their absolute limits.
Haha, perhaps.
delet this
Seeing Giant Storm activate the stage transitions in this game would be hyyype.
It could be argued that when Vegeta and Nappa went off to Earth to make their own wish to seek eternal life, they weren't at all interested in working for Freeza anymore (and would have turned coat in full once their objective was met). Thus, all their actions on Earth were simply on them, and not due to them being "part of Freeza's forces".
On that same note...I don't think it was ever said if the denizens of East City that were blown up by Nappa were ever wished back.
FTFY
17 and 18 are not cyborgs. A cyborg would have machine parts in them. They don't. They're biologically enhanced humans.
So IMO the question "Why does 21 have glasses" doesn't make much sense. For all we know she could have normal organic human eyes just like 17 and 18 and she could just happen to have an eye disorder.
Uh, it says based on humans not actually enhanced humans. They're replicates who's components mimic organic human life.
NipplesAndToes23
Member
Damn you mean.
Pretty much.
Either way, that was retconned. The "humans turned into powerful, tireless cyborgs via organic parts" thing is stated to be canon.
Lifejumper
Member
Not before Tarble.
I mean that's kinda what I'm saying. They're components mimic organic human life, that's what makes them cyborgs.
Oh yeah, totally then! I thought you were insinuating 17 & 18 were created by Gero instead of humans he... kidnapped, I think? I don't recall why he was able to test on them, honestly.
Bio-Tarble would be a fair compromise.
I meant the cyborg thing . I'm confused about whether they're created or found now haha. Either way, they're definitely cyborgs.
I don't think he's " effective" as a villain, I think vegeta is during that arc, because he's actually like... a character. And I feel like The ginyu force, The androids besides 19 and Majin buu a character who seems to incredibly dumb and can barely formulate sentences in two of his forms was a much more effective villain that showed a range of emotions, and goals and motivations, and very mcuh seemed like characters outside of that moment. Unlike nappa, nappa literally feels like he's a glorified saibamen I can't imagine nappa existing outside of that moment with vegeta.
That's why I dissagree with you, but if you like that character that's fine. I like big dumb characters too, I want broly in this game. That said I feel as though if you aren't going to have a character, you need to have impact and the only impact I feel personally nappa had was " I gotta make vegeta look cool " . He doesn't do much for me I guess
Its not mean its how toriyama writes, its the rigmarole of the Shonen battle arc structure, sometimes Vegeta and Goku are those characters. Characters who get bodied and are supposed to be strong to show the strength of other characters. Its just that , that plot device was nappa's life. His entire life was that. He didn't have a character , he was a big guy who had an uninteresting design who hung out with vegeta, he was designed to eventually be nothing.
Im pretty sure they were real humans before. Also pretty sure they're almost full humans too, I remember Krilin says as much when Goku ask him how she had a child