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Dragon Quest X is not meeting expectations
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NeededSleep
Member
Do you know how often they give content patches to the game? I found FF11's biannually method quite annoying when i was playing. Curious to know if they are slow on content patches, which could be a reason people may be not be playing.
Sure is, that game was really amazing. Probably the grandest 'journey' of any command RPG.
people move on and get attached to new hardware and games. that game they bought in september isn't as cool as the new 3ds they got during the holidays, especially since that plays animal crossing.
I don't think SE expects to simply recoup its dev cost from the main entry in their most profitable franchise in the most profitable genre, with ff11 being their most lucrative ff.
If their expectations were based on that, they must have been quite high.
lunchwithyuzo
Banned
I think a big part of it also is being Fukushima's handpicked successor, and he owns nearly a third of the company. Wada probably gets a little more leeway thanks to that.
There's no reason they couldn't do DQ8 on the 3DS. It's got the horsepower to do it.
babel fish'd:
The company commented that the management of online "tribe of five Ki awakened Dragon Quest X" online RPG game which launched in August last year in earnings announcement, and "We are progressing steadily," the burden management of the online system not lead to the smash hit of about bear upon, was expected.
persona from the korean site ruliweb translates it like this:
동사는 결산 발표로 작년 8월 서비스를 개시한 온라인 RPG 게임 「드래곤 퀘스트 X 온라인」의 운영은 「견조하게 진척 하고 있다」라고 코멘트하고 있지만 온라인 시스템의 운영 부담이 더해지고 있고 기대한 정도의 대히트에는 연결되지 않았다.
(Square Enix) comments that "our company is progressing steadily with the Online RPG Dragon Quest X". However the online system bears management costs and it was not the expected Big hit.
http://bbs2.ruliweb.daum.net/gaia/d...depth&searchValue=스퀘어&platformId=&pageIndex=1
Yeah this is basically how Aeana translated it too.
SolsticeZero
Banned
I'd love a re-release of 8. I loved 8, with the exception of Toriyama's shitty character designs. I couldn't play 9, though. I hated it, actually.
Just seems weird they hype how they already recovered their full investment and are in full profit mode on the game now. I would think things like Hitman going down to 20 bucks a week after launch and stabilizing around $25-29 is causing more issues than anything. When you release major titles and discount them right away that kills bottomline
so whose expectations are we talkinga bout. MSNs expectations or Square Enix expectations? 400k userbase on wii seems to be quite good all things considering.
After the poor sales of DDD, might as well throw Kingdom Hearts in there as well.
"Tanking" may be a little bit harsh, but the franchise's potential has certainly been wasted this gen.
If management said it, it would be Square Enix's expectations.
This doesn't sound like an analysts' comments given there's no analyst in that statement.
MagnetoWned
Member
DQ X came out in August last YEAR? Never knew...
H_Prestige
Banned
Then they must have put zero effort into DQ7 because that game looks nowhere near as good. Storage space could also be a problem. 3DS is like, what, 4GB?
You must not know how many people play on Xbox 360 and PS2. There are so many players who play on PS2 in Japan that they got the expansion for it and the US didn't.
Magicpaint
Member
How odd - how could things turns around so dramatically and so quickly? The MMO market must be quite fragile for that to happen.
Sohter.Nura
Member
I actually feel like they've kinda burnt their Dragon Quest brand.
While 9 was a commercial success, it strayed too far away from what their fans were expecting. Then 10 came over and trumped it even further.
I think 10 would have benefited better from being a spin-off.
While 9 was a commercial success, it strayed too far away from what their fans were expecting. Then 10 came over and trumped it even further.
I think 10 would have benefited better from being a spin-off.
They can use 8GB carts but the publisher has to be willing to pay the extra cost
The Mana Legend
Banned
Using Wii as a beta for the Wii U beta seemed like a bad idea.
Should have been Wii U exclusive from the beginning and released at end of 2013 or early 2014 after Nintendo's big titles hit and the console picked up steam.
Should have been Wii U exclusive from the beginning and released at end of 2013 or early 2014 after Nintendo's big titles hit and the console picked up steam.
This is what I thought too, I recall the reports of servers being at capacity. What the heck happened?
It came in April in Japan, it took 6 months to arrive for PC, and PS2 was hugely popular, while playing in PC was not. I'm pretty sure that PS2 was the most popular platform to play it until it arrived to USA (and it took a while, one year and half I think).
Umm... even assuming DQ8 could possibly be recreated exactly, I wouldn't expect Arte Piazza (the developer of DQ7 3DS) to be able to do it. Look toward Level-5's 3DS games to see what the developer who actually made DQ8 is able to do on the system.
I think they just remade it in that style because that is what it originally kinda looked like (just, like, way worse), and it's a different developer.
Then again, look at the DQ6 DS remake. Lolz :\
H_Prestige
Banned
I think they should have just made it a regular DQ game for the Wii U, exclusively. Nintendo would definitely prefer that as well.
Making it a MMO was so stupid, especially given the FFXIV debacle going on. You'd think Wada would get a fucking hint, that maybe they can't just repeat FFXI in the current market.
lunchwithyuzo
Banned
This also implies the subscriber base isn't decreasing though. So it's growing from 400k and thus still outperforming FFXI by a decent margin.
DQ7 3DS looks better than DQ5 PS2, which is what you should actually be comparing it to.
I asked my japanese wife and she interpreted it that only the part in the 「」 are from SE themselves which is:
「堅調に進捗している」
It has 400k subscribers already. FF XI was the most succesful FF game after the disastrous 130k they sold for PS2 at launch. give it time.
it was made by the opoona devs. what did you expect?
To me, it's pretty obvious that his strategies are not making the company money. Instead, they're losing money like no other generation.
DQ8 HD would be easy money.
Do you honestly think the sales potential on the Wii U is equal to or better than the potential on the Wii? Even after seeing how poorly the system is doing?
As has been said several times, the game actually sold very well on Wii. The problem is with keeping people playing, and I doubt that has as much to do with the platform as other things.
No it doesn't, that line isn't about the subscriber base. They're talking about the company.
electroplankton
Banned
They've burnt the brand? Dragon Quest is more popular than ever in both Japan and the West, sales-wise. This week, Dragon Quest VII has been released there, and nothing is pointing out a declining popularity.
Dragon Quest VII is still a remake. And it's also a HUGE game. Have you ever played it?
lordfroakie
Member
DQX should of been on 3DS, featuring coop online play :/
tiggerkiddo
Member
Maybe they should have put it on a system other than the Wii and it's crummy online.
lunchwithyuzo
Banned
Oh, I thought it was about DQX going by the quote. :[
It's also incredibly unlikely, unless Horii has changed his mind dramatically about re-releases and remakes.
Why? It didn't stop them from remaking the others.
Would it be a fair assumption that 8 was your first?
ShockingAlberto
Member
Does the Wii U version come alongside content we would generally consider to be expansion-like? New classes, new quests, maybe new areas, etc.?
If so, that might help. If not...they should probably get on that.
If so, that might help. If not...they should probably get on that.
Im expecting DQ 3 3DS next.
they recently launched 1.2 with new classes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXwnbNWtLfM
they will also have a DQ X WiiU related event February 18th. probably alongside new content possibly an expansion.
He doesn't want to re-release a game unless it can be improved dramatically, which is why we get remakes and not re-releases. The anniversary collection is one of the only times that games were actually re-released in their original forms.
I actually don't think DQ8 is going to be touched for quite a while.
Ugh, no. All the online crap is what ruined DQ IX.