fluffydelusions
Member
Game seems interesting and it's pre-alpha so people should remember that. My only issue I saw is everything was too white and not enough color like it could strain my eyes
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Drawn to Death #GOF**KYOURSELF (David Jaffe's response to giantbomb/polygon comments)
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Yaphett Kotto
Member
What did he say?
Actually the teens-as-marketing-demographic is a relatively recent phenomenon. It basically started with the baby boomers.
This needs to be quoted again.
You're missing the point if you're trying to paint GB as a site that is founded on "journalistic integrity." It's an entertainment site, man. Sure, they do reviews and try to be unbiased on those, but the entire premise of the site is fun entertainment based around strong personalities. If you're going to GB looking for hard-hitting journalism then you're doing it wrong.
ChoklitCow
Member
Hah. I love this. I feel it fits right along with the high school notebook premise.
Surface of Me
I'm not an NPC. And neither are we.
Giantbomb.com has given many more hours of entertainment than either of those franchises.
#Jeff>Jaffe
abstract alien
Member
Good. He can say whatever he wants about his own project or the critics the same way anyone else can speak on his work or him. It's just social media and humans, it's not a big deal. Not anymore than the norm for that sort of twitter/Facebook behavior anyway.
As a consumer, I don't give a shit what either of them have to say. Doesn't make any difference.
As a consumer, I don't give a shit what either of them have to say. Doesn't make any difference.
Personal attacks need to be quoted? They didn't like the look of his game. Apparently they've given us enough that we need to get hyper salted about their opinions.
And them talking trash about Jaffe was required right?
Sorry if it has been covered, but what did Giantbomb say about the game?
Wait, what? Is it bizarro world? Just last year people were calling the GB guys MS lovers.
Wait, what? Is it bizarro world? Just last year people were calling the GB guys MS lovers.
Zeyphersan
Banned
For the record, I stand by what I said. But I'll amend it to make it more clear: very few people in the SF office know a lot about or care a lot about Nintendo. Also I'm pretty sure Jeff doesn't like videogames anymore ANYWAY, so I'll give him a pass
SatelliteOfLove
Member
Note how this breathes new life to a modest, mixed debut.
Note how the adamant basal emotional reaction has completely turned direction.
"We can go lower. Watch this"
Note how the adamant basal emotional reaction has completely turned direction.
"We can go lower. Watch this"
+1 Jaffe.
I personally think Jaffe is just a person who doesnt take shit from nobody and tends to be very vocal about his feelings. He is like one of the few who will tell you to "Fuck yourself" and he is within his right to do so.
Like people or the "internet" can go on and pile up on him and shit on his projects publicly but yet people get all up in arms if he does a general reply to some of those people? He is not part of some big corporation where he could get fired for saying a bad word. Big deal he told some haters to get a life. Nothing to see here but laugh at the whole situation.
Some people enjoy SP only games or just MP games. Everyone has a different taste so I actually look forward to play his game. I think it looks really cool and not something I would say "derp derp looks like a 1999 game lulz". I think they are missing the point of smaller scale games ffs.
I personally think Jaffe is just a person who doesnt take shit from nobody and tends to be very vocal about his feelings. He is like one of the few who will tell you to "Fuck yourself" and he is within his right to do so.
Like people or the "internet" can go on and pile up on him and shit on his projects publicly but yet people get all up in arms if he does a general reply to some of those people? He is not part of some big corporation where he could get fired for saying a bad word. Big deal he told some haters to get a life. Nothing to see here but laugh at the whole situation.
Some people enjoy SP only games or just MP games. Everyone has a different taste so I actually look forward to play his game. I think it looks really cool and not something I would say "derp derp looks like a 1999 game lulz". I think they are missing the point of smaller scale games ffs.
I'm just listening to it now so I haven't finished but they basically said so far that it looks like Anarchy Reigns which they didn't like and that the language used like FUCK YEAH flashing up on the screen after shooting a bazooka seems like something an old guy trying to be cool would design and Patrick kind of said I'm sorry before he said that last part.
Pretty tame so far unless it gets worse later.
disastermouse
Banned
I'm mostly into it for the art style. I've never played an arena shooter, but if I'm going to start, I have no problem starting with something with manifestly different player classes/styles and interesting art.
What's wrong with this? Is this supposed to be a big deal?
I want this to happen. Jay and Silent Bob Kick Some Ass.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsXKAtpLm4I
First time I've heard of the game. I want to play it!
I want this to happen. Jay and Silent Bob Kick Some Ass.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsXKAtpLm4I
First time I've heard of the game. I want to play it!
Crayon
Member
I have was just listening to it. They grumbled about the style. Complained about its spot in the show. Made a disparaging joke about calling all cars. Concerned over the player count. Mused about being the old guy trying to be cool or simply being out of touch. Brad tried to pretend like he doesnt just amalgamate his opinions from gaf. That sort of thing.
H3rTz DoNuT
Member
You just don't mess with Jaffe!
Looking forward to the game, very excited actually, Love Jeffe.
Looking forward to the game, very excited actually, Love Jeffe.
fluffydelusions
Member
Well that is subjective. But for me I love GB, Jeff, and Jaffe so ya
Bingo!
Everybody relax. Let the man say what he wants to say, how he wants to say it. The trolls and assholes had their moment, he gets his.
Coming from a fellow Shadowrun fan, this info has me excited. Glad Jaffe made this video too lol, works perfectly with the tone of the game, and it's a good tongue in cheek response to all the hate.
Looking forward to trying out this game, love Twisted Metal, and I like his philosophy on MP combat, with longer, more drawn out engagements. The split second kills in most MP shooters is boring as fuck, especially when the shooting elements aren't even fun.
Ingueferroque
Banned
On the Giantbomb podcast they said that Jaffe is an old guy trying to be cool. That he is out of touch. Yeah..
Than they mock that Jaffe partakes in ghost hunting in his spare time.
Meanwhile they gave Sunset Overdrive 4/5 and say that is 'gleefully silly' when it basically has a very similar attitude.
All around great journalism!
Than they mock that Jaffe partakes in ghost hunting in his spare time.
Meanwhile they gave Sunset Overdrive 4/5 and say that is 'gleefully silly' when it basically has a very similar attitude.
All around great journalism!
They actually did voice concern over the amount of cussing in the Quick Look for Sunset Overdrive. Dan specifically asked Brad if the amount of cussing seemed try hardy which is exactly what they were meaning about this game on the podcast.
SlowRevolution
Member
they =/= brad =/= patrick
Ehh they said a few times on the Bombcast that they felt it was trying a bit too hard to be edgy. So the game getting a good score doesn't necessarily reflect that.
Messofanego
Banned
"Thinking man's brawler...I should say thinking woman's brawler. Gamergate is going to fucking kill me!"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlRZ2UxAe0E#t=2h07m10s
It's more like GB shit on this game I like hate.
Ingueferroque
Banned
The podcast is an echo chamber most of the time. Brad wasn't there but they did say this on air and nobody disagreed. Whatever.
The MGO bit was just crazy.
Sure seems like they judge this game based on its attitude alone.
I just don't understand, the whole fucking concept is that it is viewed through the eye of a 13 year old angsty teen. The art is supposed to be bad. The humor is supposed to be juvenile. It isn't trying to be anything else.
MickeyKnox
Member
Calling All Cars 2015
Nightengale
Member
Don't get the hate.
Sure, it's edgy, juvenile, and doesn't appeal to everyone, but that's what I liked about it.
It's a new IP, a neat idea, and surprisingly grounded in concept. The doodles of a teenager brought to life as an arena multiplayer shooter.
It's an idea that :
- allows for a unique, simplistic art style with a very varied style and expression
- different, yet doesn't feel like it's different for the sake of being different. I think this kind of idea has always floated the minds of many kids before "what if my doodles came to life?"
- looks to be dynamic in gameplay. Different powers, dynamic traversal, 4 player-only with high health, and unique weapons not unlike Insomniac...
Not every game/new idea has to be "omg so mature", or "hearfelt, emotional." It's a concept that feels juvenile, but it's also very honest, and something very Jaffe.
Sure, it's edgy, juvenile, and doesn't appeal to everyone, but that's what I liked about it.
It's a new IP, a neat idea, and surprisingly grounded in concept. The doodles of a teenager brought to life as an arena multiplayer shooter.
It's an idea that :
- allows for a unique, simplistic art style with a very varied style and expression
- different, yet doesn't feel like it's different for the sake of being different. I think this kind of idea has always floated the minds of many kids before "what if my doodles came to life?"
- looks to be dynamic in gameplay. Different powers, dynamic traversal, 4 player-only with high health, and unique weapons not unlike Insomniac...
Not every game/new idea has to be "omg so mature", or "hearfelt, emotional." It's a concept that feels juvenile, but it's also very honest, and something very Jaffe.
ricardo_sousa11
Member
I agree with most of those comments...
Yep. They absolutely shitted on MGO for no reason. Apparently just because they don't like MGO, nobody in the world likes MGO. And even though the new trailer looked really good the whole discussion was "Who plays this shit?".
They are really out of touch sometimes.
BlackLagoon
Member
Giant Bomb gave us this video with David Jaffe's top 10 games of 2012. And it's bizzare to see that people think that this is anything but a friendly jab from Jaffe.
Oh, I definitely didn't intend to call you out or anything. I actually almost didn't include usernames in my post. I agree that many of them aren't too big on Nintendo, and if you like Nintendo a lot, I don't blame you for not being interested in the site. I was just trying to show that the company specific complaints happens with all of the companies.
I guess what I'm getting at is that people complaining about Giant Bomb's coverage of companies might as well just say they don't like games at all, since they get the same complaints regarding all of the companies. I wouldn't agree with people that hold that viewpoint, but it would make more sense to me than to single out a company. I see you have a similar idea with Jeff, but I disagree. That dude lives and breathes video games and clearly loves them.
Ingueferroque
Banned
I thought that trailer was the highlight of the game awards show, and judging from Gaf people seemed to be really into it.
Their attitude and comments were just bizarre, unprofessional, and way out of left field. Almost as if they're trying to be edgy and cool for the sake of it.
"I don't want to play Metal Gear Online..."
Okay? So don't shit on it just because you don't see the appeal?
I'm 100% convinced that Jeff judges all games, platforms, equally. I don't think he has any platform bias at all! But to say that he clearly loves games? Ridiculous. He sounds burnt out. I think he likes the IDEA of games, but he just shits on everything. He isn't open to new experiences or to ask himself (constructively) why he doesn't like thing.
I think he needs a vacation.
Not quite sure I get what you're saying. Are you taking about yesterday's bombcast? And you're claiming Brad wasn't there?
Also the echo chamber comments are off base imo. Brad and Jeff disagree all the time but they're willing to concede differences of opinion and move on (unless it's GOTY time).
Just because they don't escalate into Shane/Garnett "oh my god dude!" shouting matches that doesn't make them a hivemind.
Ingueferroque
Banned
Yes, yesterday's podcast. Brad might have been there, sorry, not sure if he was! It enforces my point if he was.
not_so_special
Banned
thats a thing i always find funny,people can abuse and disrespect any game and when his work is doubted they get in arms and make circles to defend other journos
man people on the gaming press these days think they are more important than developers who really make the games ..the giant bomb and polygon guys are full of themselves sometimes
Ingueferroque
Banned
They must often agree then! This is the last I'll say about it because this is getting off-topic (and I apologize...) besides calling David Jaffe an old out of touch man trying to be cool.. this is how they opened up the Metal Gear Online reveal discussion:
"What the hell is metal gear online?"
"It's another dumb fucking multiplayer mode for a metal gear game that nobody wants"
"Yeah, who gets into these?"
"no-one!"
"Stripping away the dumb fucking story and all this other chaos, to say like, we're gonna have you shoot at other human players, breaks the whole thing even more. It's just terrible."
What the fuck? Trying to be edgy I suppose? Meanwhile Ground Zeroes has been out for 9 months and has proven to be all bout dat gameplay, and a perfect fit for an online type experience. I guess they didn't bother playing Peace Walker either. Oh well.
Such a shame that they make a damn good Podcast.
Brutalitops
Banned
Based Jaffe.
To the precious in this thread, perhaps you should learn to #HANDLETHEBANTER
To the precious in this thread, perhaps you should learn to #HANDLETHEBANTER
He seemed just as excited as everyone else about No Man's Sky and he loves that WWE card game!