I guess vertical development now means expand development beyond release date. PS+ version is some kind of cheat for them in order to cut features in the first run and add every promise in the long run. Problem is people that buy retail version because they are interested in offline play, what if they finally buy an half-asset game?
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DRIVECLUB INTERVIEW Q&A
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I guess vertical development now means expand development beyond release date. PS+ version is some kind of cheat for them in order to cut features in the first run and add every promise in the long run. Problem is people that buy retail version because they are interested in offline play, what if they finally buy an half-asset game?
More like you can upgrade the ps+ version to the digital version, and only buy the dlc for the digital version.
Yes.
I also wonder if they are talking about rain vs a wet track. Or snowing vs a snowy/ice track.
That's not what it's sounded like to me. It's sounded like there are separate choices. If you want to keep the PS+ version and buy a track and a few cars then you can, and if you want to upgrade to the full game then you can too.
That was my thought. I thought it would be a large scale club experience. Like a GAF club with a hundred people in it.
phosphor112
Banned
Why not raise the club limit, and weight the score accordingly?
backbreaker65
Banned
Reading the Dev Quotes about this game, about how it will be different from the day one game. Reminds me of the quote from Mark Cerny about "Living Software" about how since games are on the Hard Drive and if you're connected to the internet over time your experience will change with new content already in the game.
DrDamn
Member
I really like what Clap Hanz did with Everbody's Golf/Hot Shots Golf this generation on PS3. Rather than yearly or bi-yearly releases it's evolved with DLC, updates to how you can play online, 3D modes, Move support etc. A lot of game types would fit that model quite well. More of that approach is good. Also announcing a PS4 EG/HSG at TGS would be nice
You can still set fast times and set records offline.
Could be. Maybe i read it wrong, but that would be weird, i mean, you would be paying dlc for a game locked to your ps+ subscription.
Edit: Well, at least it's weird for me.
RoadHazard
Gold Member
That would make your personal contributions to the club's progress count for almost nothing, and I imagine that wouldn't be very rewarding. Smaller clubs will make the experience much more meaningful for everyone involved.
AyaisMUsikWhore
Member
It's a day to day process. Obviously they are working on a lot of things to make the game really polished along with getting it to 60fps. Game development takes time. You can't just start at 60 without knowing how big it will be and what you will need to get 60
Can do that with loads of games though. I think that';s part of why companies like putting games on PS+, because it'll sell some DLC.
How is PS+ a "cheat" if they will also release the full game at the same time? It will be the basic framework with a starter package of cars and tracks, and then you buy more individually if you want to end up with the retail amount.
And I like this idea of growing over time rather than put out sequels that fragment a community over annual sequels. As someone mentioned, Hot Shots Golf did it very well.
Do what? Lol
Only if you use near identical cars or if they throw "realism" out the window.
CrunchinJelly
formerly cjelly
This is a joke, right? Maximum of 12 people makes zero sense.
I'm rewatching the PS4 reveal.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qh8KLN-l86o&feature=player_detailpage#t=3513s
"Pick any time of day, in any weather, at any time of the year."
Boo.
The Elite
BOSS
I'm rewatching the PS4 reveal.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qh8KLN-l86o&feature=player_detailpage#t=3513s
"Pick any time of day, in any weather, at any time of the year."
Boo.
Wow. I get the impression this is getting rushed out the door at launch. That's why they're hinting at additional content, like weather, later on.
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
Why? I think its a great number. It makes the club intimate, as in each member has importance to overall progression. The larger the number the harder it is to get anything done and to manage it overall.
Yeah, a bit like Forza I guess. :/
Glorified G
Member
Nice to hear about the single player. But..
It better end up looking like that. The E3 build looked like shit (off cam footage, I know)
It better end up looking like that. The E3 build looked like shit (off cam footage, I know)
NullPointer
Member
I wonder how much content there will be on the full priced retail version.
Sounds like a lot is being held back.
Not good. Not good.I'm rewatching the PS4 reveal.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qh8KLN-l86o&feature=player_detailpage#t=3513s
"Pick any time of day, in any weather, at any time of the year."
Boo.
So, rushed game for launch shifts features to DLC?
GameSeeker
Member
If you go back in time and look at the Motorstorm trailers from E3 2006 and TGS 2006, you will see than the final Motorstorm that shipped in Dec 2006 looked just like the trailers.
So far for DriveClub we have a Feb 2013 reveal trailer and a E3 trailer. We may get new trailers at Gamescom and/or TGS. Given Evolution's history it is very reasonable to assume that the final game will look as good as the trailers.
Yeah, seems like it. It'll probably be like a larger scale demo. If that is the case, I'll just pick up the full version anyway, even though I have PS+.
thesuperfunk
Member
Will probably have a dabble with the PS+ version but I'm really not keen on the whole 'club' philosophy - will no doubt wait for GT6 port.
Rogue_Ledr
Banned
I don't get what the big deal is about 60 FPS.
The console is surely capable of it.
Hell, Forza is doing 60 FPS and that is on weaker hardware for crying out loud.
GET IT DONE!
The console is surely capable of it.
Hell, Forza is doing 60 FPS and that is on weaker hardware for crying out loud.
GET IT DONE!
Because sans weather, it sounds like a new PGR game
I think it's far better to have more people than less. 12 is a good number because you will actually have a chance to work with and know your teammates rather than just have them as a name that appears on a screen every so often a la Horizon. You'd actually feel like you're a part of a group than just having some prefix before your username.
In a hypothetical situation (obviously), if you're meeting up with a group of friends for any sort of off-the-cuff social gathering, around about 10-12 people is the sort of figure you'd expect amongst a tightly-knit community. Seems like it's perfect for a game like this.
A lot of the Forza stuff isn't dynamic compared to what we saw at E3. Felt more sterile to me, personally.
Kinda makes sense, though. I suspect this will be one of the very few times we see it, mostly because it's a brand new game and they've never released a full, brand new game day 1 on PS+ for free.
Pretty much this
Logitech closed its wheel division in 2010 and ceased any console-related periphery development in 2012.
You will not hear anything from them I suppose.
Sounds like evolution reusing their WRC tech for the tracks.
I'm so glad there is a free PS+ version for this, not sure I've ever been so on the fence for a racing game before. They just aren't showing anything that really excites me. Also the recent trend for open world tracks isn't my preference, I like circuits or street racing. I suppose you can make memorable tracks in outdoors scenery but it seems there is more focus on how many miles of road you have in a game - quantity over quality.
The PS3 can do 60FPS 1080 if devs want it to. You just have to make design choices to make that happen. Most devs make choices that mean 30fps is the best you will get. They could have run at 60, but it would have meant a lower fidelity. Same with resolution.
I don't understand how so many people don't understand this.
No one, well at least not me, is not saying PS4 is not capable. What puzzles me is that 4 months out from launch, their demo locks it at 30. Furthermore, they couldn't even give a guarantee. That indicates to me 60fps wasn't even a significant priority in the first place.
While me knowing next to nothing about game development probably undermines any legitimacy in my concerns, I've never seen a console developer so cagey about their fps.
Also, concentrating on things like star constellations, seriously who gives a fuck.
I think so too. From what it looks like Sony wanted paid online subs but still needs IGC to entice subscribers and not piss off the fan base. So best compromise is a slightly cut version of one of their first party games at launch.
I have a feeling it might be this way for a couple months though or even a year.
Because surely it would be more difficult to cut weather effects (after confirmation) in a game that only had a retail release. With the promise of constant evolution and free entry into the product (paying ps+), promised features can be left for after the release and people will see it as an advantage (the game evolves every month).
You can set times and shit without even being online, so I assume you don't have to be in a club to do so. So potential teams could see how good you are before adding you.
What I think would be cool is a GAF league. Since I'm sure there will be more than 12 people that want to play as part of one team, we could have several teams in a league situation like fantasy football. I doubt there would be enough players to have multiple leagues, but that would be cool too.
That makes no sense. Because it will be released in full on the same day. So people will pay full price on day one, which means it needs to be a fully featured product.
PS+ is not an excuse to cut anything because more than likely they will encourage people to pay the "upgrade" fee to get the fully featured game.
Portugeezer
Member
Dynamic lighting and weather in Driveclub.
Prebaked lighting, no night time, no weather in Forza 5.
There is no weather in Drive Club anymore. Downgradeaton.
Insane Metal
Member
Neuromancer
Member
Aw that sucks. I remembered that and that was part of why I was excited about the game.I'm rewatching the PS4 reveal.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qh8KLN-l86o&feature=player_detailpage#t=3513s
"Pick any time of day, in any weather, at any time of the year."
Boo.
Yeah I wish Sony could say something about wheels. I'm willing to buy one at launch as long as the quality is there, but right now I have no idea what will be supported and what won't.