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E3 official Floor Plans (Nintendo, Square Enix, Sega...)

PantherLotus

Professional Schmuck
One of these vans would not fit within the current booth size.

Rockstar_buses_at_e3_2005.JPG
 

TJ Spyke

Member
E3 is a TRADE show, meant for companies to show their products to retailers and the press, not gamers who like to overanalyze every little decision. This new and improved E3 will make that easier for publishers.

Would I have liked to go to the old E3 at least once? Sure, but we will still gets tons of coverage with the new E3.
 
TJ Spyke said:
E3 is a TRADE show, meant for companies to show their products to retailers and the press, not gamers who like to overanalyze every little decision. This new and improved E3 will make that easier for publishers.

Would I have liked to go to the old E3 at least once? Sure, but we will still gets tons of coverage with the new E3.

**** that noise. E3's purpose should have been changed. It had become the US's equivalent to TGS, and now thats no more. ESA ****ed up, plain and simple, they are alienating the very fans they cater to, and that is inexcuseable. E3 should have been changed into a weeklong event. with the first 3 days being press and retailers only, and the other 4 days going to the general public that can afford a ticket. the ESA, by taking the shittiest route possible, has effectively shot the industry in the foot.
 

TJ Spyke

Member
There is that "E for All" thing from GamePro that will be open to the public. E3 is just going back to how it's supposed to be, a place for press and retailers to get info on lots of games in one place. E3 was never meant for casual gamers, and I don't blame the real journalist who had to put up with geeks who got in due to working at EB Games and only care about getting free stuff/staring at booth babes. From the stories I heard, it became hard for the people who were supposed to be there to actually do their job.

Besides, most gamers probably won't notice because you will still see thousands of reports and videos online during E3.
 

fallout

Member
itsme said:
No matter what the publishers said about E3, and their justification of it, they got it all wrong because E3 was not about them, but us, the gamers. It was a celebration of gaming and a festival for gamers. All the game media people complained about crowded E3 can eat my **** since it's not for them either. Seriously, what do we have for gaming? Movie industry has a bunch of movie festivals and Oscar award, and music industry has equally lots of way to celebrate their beloved format. E3 was the biggest by far going for gaming. It's a shame that it got shot down because of grumpy publishders.
Uh, you seem to be terribly misguided on this. E3 was not a celebration. It was an annual cluster****.
 

Xavien

Member
God, my living room is larger then one of the largest booths.

E3 is dead, i can only hope a show of size and scope of 2006 E3 will evolve somewhere.

Developers may have not liked the old E3, but it did many great things for the industry as a whole. It got people excited, it got the mainstream press involved, it was a place for all the big announcements, the extravagance and flashiness of the industry. Something tells me that E3 is just gonna slowly fade away, year on year from now on.
 
Rhindle said:
I agree with this. The ESA and publishers completely missed the point.

E3 was the industry's big annual public statement that showed that gaming is a major medium that should be taken seriously. Every other major consumer industry has at least one big annual public bash, whether it's CES, or Cannes, or CTIA, or whatever. The shows are there to draw attention to the industry as much as anything else, and also are a way to directly communicate with your fans and audience WITHOUT a lot of filtering through the media.

It's kind of ironic that people in the industry complain about not being taken as seriously as film, music, print publishing or whatever, and yet their big spend for the year is going to be a 20x20" booth in a hangar.
You can't be serious? A horde of nerds and booth babes showed that gaming should be taken seriously? If anything the whole huzzah showed to the unsuspecting public that gaming can't be taken seriously. Sure it's a million dollar business, but so is the porn industry.

I think concerning a serious approach to a gaming expo this is a right step.
 

KINGMOKU

Member
fallout said:
Uh, you seem to be terribly misguided on this. E3 was not a celebration. It was an annual cluster****.
Who cares? It was awesome for us fans. Now we get nothing on the scale of that show.

****ing sucks for us gamers, period. Biggest, baddest show in all of videogamdom. Over-the-top expo, news leaks, awesome booths, you name it.

Trying to argue otherwise with diehard gamers is just ridiculous. The biggest gaming event of the year is now gone, and trying to convince us otherwise is futile.
 

Rhindle

Member
Phife Dawg said:
You can't be serious? A horde of nerds and booth babes showed that gaming should be taken seriously? If anything the whole huzzah showed to the unsuspecting public that gaming can't be taken seriously. Sure it's a million dollar business, but so is the porn industry.

I think concerning a serious approach to a gaming expo this is a right step.
Coverage of E3 in the general media was almost always overwhelmingly positive. It was the one time of the year where the games industry got attention outside of Take Two being sued for a school shooting.

Contrary to your apparent perception, most E3 attendees were not geeky loserboys.

Unless you're referring specifically to the Nintendo booth, in which case your observations would be correct.
 

Aaron

Member
Xavien said:
God, my living room is larger then one of the largest booths.

E3 is dead, i can only hope a show of size and scope of 2006 E3 will evolve somewhere.

Developers may have not liked the old E3, but it did many great things for the industry as a whole. It got people excited, it got the mainstream press involved, it was a place for all the big announcements, the extravagance and flashiness of the industry. Something tells me that E3 is just gonna slowly fade away, year on year from now on.
OMG, Journos can sit down quietly with developers instead of having to shout themselves stupid on the show floor. It's the end of teh world! Though many had conference rooms off the hall, which made things a little easier. Really, what it is now is what it should be. Shift your focus to the wannabe events. This seperation is better for everyone.
 

antiloop

Member
I will take the wait and see stance... I think it will be good.


I wonder if they will have any riiiiidge raaacers or giant crabs this year. I doubt it. :)
 

FightyF

Banned
I apologize if this is an elementary question that has already been discussed, but I truly don't know what I'm about to ask...

What is the new purpose of E3 now? Will games no longer be demoed? Will journalists still attend seminars and such? Will most revelations now be done via closed door unveilings?
 

AniHawk

Member
Fight for Freeform said:
I apologize if this is an elementary question that has already been discussed, but I truly don't know what I'm about to ask...

What is the new purpose of E3 now? Will games no longer be demoed? Will journalists still attend seminars and such? Will most revelations now be done via closed door unveilings?

Conferences will still exist, and still be big deals. Smaller indy cool stuff, not so much.
 

Owzers

Member
moku said:
Who cares? It was awesome for us fans. Now we get nothing on the scale of that show.

****ing sucks for us gamers, period. Biggest, baddest show in all of videogamdom. Over-the-top expo, news leaks, awesome booths, you name it.

Trying to argue otherwise with diehard gamers is just ridiculous. The biggest gaming event of the year is now gone, and trying to convince us otherwise is futile.


Well unless you were at the show previously, why do you care about the booths? I'm a diehard gamer and the most enjoyable parts to last E3 were the press conferences, the 1up podcasts, and every other gamespot live day coverage interview. I think too many emo cards are being layed down on the table over what's happening to E3. The big downside is for the smaller studios who wont' be able to attend, but it might be better for them to announce their games later so they don't get buried behind people going crazy over yet another Metal Gear Solid 4 trailer.
 
Rhindle said:
Coverage of E3 in the general media was almost always overwhelmingly positive. It was the one time of the year where the games industry got attention outside of Take Two being sued for a school shooting.

Contrary to your apparent perception, most E3 attendees were not geeky loserboys.

Unless you're referring specifically to the Nintendo booth, in which case your observations would be correct.
You can take your agenda elsewhere, thank you.

We're talking about the public reception of E3. And that was pretty much booth babes and nerds. And that is not the kind of attention you want to gather when you want to be taken seriously. The new concept is better that way. Straight business, no fun fair ride. If it pans out that way in the end is yet to be seen though.
 

Ikael

Member
Does that really matter? E3 always just gets attention for being big and wacky, I don't think it's actually educating anybody about games at all. The local news does a five minute piece about how many people are then they interview some dorky guys or a booth babe then it's done.

I really don't know how the crap the E3 coverage was in the US media, but in Spain they really gave an overwhelmingly positive overview of our industry and news.

Last E3 was basically free advertising for "Nintendo and their almost magical motion controller", for Sony and the "new sucessor to the famous Playstation" and Microsoft and their "already stablished 306".

They showed the huge Wiilines and people playing wiisport, they also showed a lot of Playstation games and there were no booth babes or "giant enemy crab" to found out, which is what the "mainstream videogaming media" focuses on, but not what the true mainstream media really cares for.

It was the very only time in the year when TV focused in our industry and paid it lip service instead of bashing videogames or promoting movies, films or muisic like they do every other day. And now this is gone in the name of a stricter filter of bad impressions of games in the specialized media. Way to go.
 

Zave

Member
Namomura said:
Posted ? pretty small compared to last year as expected... same size for all. Nintendo's booth has actually the size of the bathroom.



nintendoe3booth-thumb.jpg


forget it...

LOL @ the bahtroom... Anyway: I'm pretty confident it will be a better suited "event" than the last years "show". Good choice. Only one problem, I'm not taking a car for rent and I'm not going to Amoeba to waste hundreds of bucks. :(
 

Busty

Banned
Mithos Yggdrasill said:
E3 is dead. The only interesting thing with it is the press conference.



Agreed. Please. Please someone tell me that Sony, Nintendo and (unlike last year) MS are having big press conferences this year that they are broadcasting over the net.

I've watched all the E3 press conferences on Gamespot the last couple of years and I'd be genuinely gutted if they're all not broadcast this year.
 

Neomoto

Member
I don't really care. All I care for when it comes to E3 are the press conferences from the big three, the rest.. pretty much meh. Thankfully the press conferences still exists and if they continue to release official trailers and such I'll be fine. Just wish it whas still next month, now I have to wait longer :(

Juice said:
E3 2k8 to take place in a password-protected chatroom confirmed.

user: golin, password:
harris
Would they need friend codes in order to communicate too? :(
 

fallout

Member
moku said:
Who cares? It was awesome for us fans. Now we get nothing on the scale of that show.

****ing sucks for us gamers, period. Biggest, baddest show in all of videogamdom. Over-the-top expo, news leaks, awesome booths, you name it.

Trying to argue otherwise with diehard gamers is just ridiculous. The biggest gaming event of the year is now gone, and trying to convince us otherwise is futile.
Were you going to this show or were you just excited by seeing the pretty pictures of the event?

I'm not going to proclaim that the next E3 will be great (and not that it'll matter, GAF pre-hype will determine that, regardless of how it actually is), but at the very least, it should mean better content for gamers. More content for gamers. What do you think made E3 exciting? The flashy lights, loud noises, booth babes, etc. or the big announcements? That shit isn't going anywhere, so even if you don't care about content, you'll still have plenty of "lol" moments to enjoy with your GAF brethren.
 

Oblivion

Fetishing muscular manly men in skintight hosery
Kobun Heat said:
Seriously. This is the show for gamers. And PAX. Congratulations, gamers! There are your shows.

Well, of course YOU wouldn't mind this, afterall, you get to go. :p
 

PantherLotus

Professional Schmuck
I think it will be funny when the new E3 is restricted to "Gaming Journalists" and the press conferences will still be filled with unprofessional fanboy gasps, giggling, and whatnot. If you want a singular reason to believe that the E3 is scaled back...don't blame the gamers that were lucky enough to make it to the floor.

Instead, give credit (blame) to the game companies that made their press conferences bigger, bigger, bigger until they got out of control. Eventually it just became a platform for bad press as game company heads put their foot in their mouth continually. At the same time, we must also recognize the immaturity and lack of professionalism shown by some of the smaller media outlets that were repeatedly caught on tape. Combine huge, competing press conferences with hyped fanboy journalists and stir in a little GAF...and you have one huge gaffe after another that may have very well lead to a few lost jobs at some of these bigger companies.

Basically, the venue became too big to effectively manage consistent communication with the media and it was exacerbated by individuals that treated it like a holiday.
 
Hopefully, E3 becomes a leak-o-rama but that isn't likely due to this being press exclusive. We can only hope that indy press types do something entirely stupid and give us the dirt early.
 

AlphaSnake

...and that, kids, was the first time I sucked a dick for crack
Why does everyone fail to see that enormous spaces aren't needed for the show anymore? Am I the only one who actually realizes why the spaces are so small? God I hope not.
 
"Gamers" need to realize that the entertainment that they got from E3 was for all intents and purposes a lucky break. Like if my neighbor has an apple tree and a branch of it goes over my fence into my yard, and I get free Granny Smiths. If he chops it down, I will certainly feel the loss, but I have no grounds to really complain about it, because it wasn't mine.

Remember, the game publishers pulled out of E3. They decided it wasn't worth it. If they want to reach the fans directly with glitz and glamour, they will do it through PAX or E For All -- or not do it at all.

Quite frankly, it's the same thing for smaller publishers. They were benefitting substantially from the millions of dollars that the huge publishers were pouring into E3, because it gave them, basically for free, a huge ready-made audience for their smaller product. But it's not EA's job to fund every tiny company's marketing plans. The apple tree is gone and they have to find different PR tactics.
 
Kobun Heat said:
"Gamers" need to realize that the entertainment that they got from E3 was for all intents and purposes a lucky break. Like if my neighbor has an apple tree and a branch of it goes over my fence into my yard, and I get free Granny Smiths. If he chops it down, I will certainly feel the loss, but I have no grounds to really complain about it, because it wasn't mine.

Remember, the game publishers pulled out of E3. They decided it wasn't worth it. If they want to reach the fans directly with glitz and glamour, they will do it through PAX or E For All -- or not do it at all.

Quite frankly, it's the same thing for smaller publishers. They were benefitting substantially from the millions of dollars that the huge publishers were pouring into E3, because it gave them, basically for free, a huge ready-made audience for their smaller product. But it's not EA's job to fund every tiny company's marketing plans. The apple tree is gone and they have to find different PR tactics.


That's what I think. I also think they asked the developers what kind of show would appeal to them as a better way of showing their stuff
 

Haunted

Member
Blablurn said:
I'm looking forward to the Games Convention in August ^.^!
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I hope Leipzig gets a nice boost because of E3's death (because it's dead now).




D-E-D. dead.
 
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