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English Mother 3 Patch Thread! It's go time!
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Graphics Horse
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Dash Kappei said:
Yeah I think I got stuck with the same thing, ended up having to restart from an earlier save.
Kai Dracon
Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
I've fallen far out of the emulation scene. Could someone recommend a Windows Vista friendly GBA emu for Mother 3 that has the fewest sound glitches? What's considered current?
Kaijima said:
http://mother3.fobby.net/ has some recommendations.
Chapter 4: I discovered something new. There are TWO Mr. T's! One pulls you off the tracks from the Tazmily side, another pulls you off the tracks from the factory side. He has a twin brother! :lol @ the talks they give you too.
There are just so many hilarious and completely absurd moments in the game. Chapter 5:
PORK CHOPS!
Just past the desert. The cafe infested with mold with Neckbeard as the bouncer, the robot who bitches you out for not recharging him enough at 14 seconds, and of course, Lil' Miss Marshmellow.
EvilMario said:
Yeah hard mode's not so tough when you get a full party going, especially when you gain access to debuffs. I think it's pretty solid for a second run through actually.
Still in Chapter 7, going through the ocean with the oxygen machines. :Lol Much better with a map this time around.
Just beat it. What an amazing game -- the ending is seriously sad and touching. Rather than bitching about Nintendo not bringing this game stateside, I'd rather say thanks for the amazing translation job done by some truly dedicated fans.
Seriously though, the story, the humor, the music; being so fresh off the experience I'd rather not say "it's one of my favorite games of all time," but I'm tempted to make some bold claims. I'll let it sit for a bit, however.
...
Now I need to play the first two and start begging Shigesato Itoi to reconsider for a Mother 4.
I have an all new respect for Lucas as a Brawl character, too.
Seriously though, the story, the humor, the music; being so fresh off the experience I'd rather not say "it's one of my favorite games of all time," but I'm tempted to make some bold claims. I'll let it sit for a bit, however.
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Now I need to play the first two and start begging Shigesato Itoi to reconsider for a Mother 4.
I have an all new respect for Lucas as a Brawl character, too.
revolverjgw
Member
Just hearing the music from the
makes me well up with tears. I haven't played the game since I beat it a year ago, but I still listen to the OST a lot. It's so incredibly brilliant, so eclectic, so many tracks with so little filler.
final phase of the final battle
revolverjgw said:
Definitely. The soundtrack is one of the best I've heard in years, and I love how they bring back previously used tracks that are changed to best fit the situation they're in. They bring you back to early interactions with the game, but are updated to fit the current mood.
Man, it's just so damn good.
Oddly enough, there was a since of nostalgia with the game, too. I had never played it before, but I followed the game very closely back when it was originally planned for N64. There were numerous scenes that I instantly recognized. It's weird, but I kind of want to play that version, too. Too bad it doesn't exist.
Have been taking my time, and at chapter 8 now working through my favorite dungeon. I LOVE New Pork City so much. The city itself provides an interesting insight into Porky's mentality; everything is grandiose, but ultimately shallow and meaningless. Things look great, don't feel right. People from Tazmily all gravitate towards it, some love it, some are indifferent, some regret it; there's just a sense of melancholy about their predicament.
So, I played it in Japanese back in 07, and just went through it for the second time, first using the translation. Lot of random stuff reminding me about how much I love this game.
I did not realize there was a hard mode either! That is kind of crazy, as this is already a game with a great challenge level. It wasn't as bad my second time through since I knew about a lot of the bosses tricks, and especially since I hunted down some of the rare equipment, leading to over leveling and the extremely overpowered last PSIs for Lucas and Kumatora, but it really is a tough game if you avoid extraneous combat, even with proper buffing. I am tempted to try hard mode though, especially since there are still a few rare monsters I never succeeded in tracking down.
Anyway, I suppose most people have gone through this already so there's probably not much point in raving too much about the great music, story, etc. I think it's a great way of wrapping up the series, even if it makes me sad that it's the end of it.
It kind of sucks that you can never get an actual fight with the
. I'd love to save a New Years Bomb for him or something. I am also kind of tempted to fight the
straight up some time (no NYE bomb, no flash), as I am convinced that it should still be possible even if it takes forever.
It kind of sucks that I used to be damn good at combing on the cart but can't do it for shit on emulator. Is this a common problem? It kind of dampens Hard Mode a bit...
I did not realize there was a hard mode either! That is kind of crazy, as this is already a game with a great challenge level. It wasn't as bad my second time through since I knew about a lot of the bosses tricks, and especially since I hunted down some of the rare equipment, leading to over leveling and the extremely overpowered last PSIs for Lucas and Kumatora, but it really is a tough game if you avoid extraneous combat, even with proper buffing. I am tempted to try hard mode though, especially since there are still a few rare monsters I never succeeded in tracking down.
Anyway, I suppose most people have gone through this already so there's probably not much point in raving too much about the great music, story, etc. I think it's a great way of wrapping up the series, even if it makes me sad that it's the end of it.
It kind of sucks that you can never get an actual fight with the
Ultimate Chimera
Pokey Statue
It kind of sucks that I used to be damn good at combing on the cart but can't do it for shit on emulator. Is this a common problem? It kind of dampens Hard Mode a bit...
On my yearly play through of Mother 2 and Mother 3, and man during Mother 3 it still amazes me some of the little things they put in this game that pretty much all jRPGs consistently miss. It's almost a little amusing that this simple GBA game still slaughters most of the character-driven work in other jRPGs.
That one part at the start of Chapter 4,
The scene didn't linger, there was no dialogue, and yet it was instantly more poignant than anything that has ever been in any Final Fantasy game.
I'm not just saying that because I'm a Mother fan either. These things are the reason why Mother series does stand out for me. They understand storytelling.
That one part at the start of Chapter 4,
right after waking up with your hair all mussed up and you look in the mirror, and see an extremely short little flashback of your mother brushing your hair as a little child.
I'm not just saying that because I'm a Mother fan either. These things are the reason why Mother series does stand out for me. They understand storytelling.
darkpaladinmfc
Member
Every time this thread is bumped, I pray one day I'll be playing Mother 4.
Davey Cakes
Member
It can't really be said enough. Itoi is a genius.Amir0x said:
Mother 3 showed that the right creative backing behind any game can really make a difference. I know Brownie Brown isn't known for doing outstanding work, but even with that said they translated over Itoi's world pretty damn well.
This is another reason why it's sad how the Mother series has been shunned in the US. Even without the prospect of mindblowing sales, it's a series that deserves to be experienced by anyone with even a little bit of interest (without the need for piracy). There aren't many games that put story and charm at the forefront and actually benefit from it significantly, but the Mother games definitely do, and they make you re-think what truly makes a great, memorable gaming experience outside of core gameplay.
Well, it's a given, he's a writer and all.Amir0x said:
Looking at these results, you have to wonder just how amazing games could be if only the medium could draw more talent out of other mediums. Itoi can't be the only man on earth capable of creating this kind of quality RPG. He's just the only one that did it with enough focus.
Scythesurge
Member
I think I need to make it a priority to go back and finish this game.
Rash said:
Yeah but it's more than just a charming little game that parodies other RPGs. Think about how many jRPGs there are where someone lost a mother or a something. Think of Lost Odyssey. They spend an eternity showcasing two whining kids moaning and moaning about their dead mother, there's a fetch quest about the funeral, there's the funeral, there's a dungeon as a direct result of a kid's reaction.
Mother 3 hardly languishes on anything. There is a funeral, which is simple yet effective. Then there is a lot of talk about how Chris (I named him after me, that's right!) is always crying about his mother, and yet very few scenes where they actually show it. That's because the writer doesn't feel we're retards. Instead, Itoi knows the audience already assumes the emotional stress this family is going through. It is not knocked over your head until you're dead from the lack of subtlety. The writers of Lost Odyssey literally believe that everyone playing the game has the mental capacity of a gorilla.
Mother 3 also isn't afraid to show things in silence. Many important aspects of scenes are handled through the careful and extremely impressive sprite animation, allowing us to draw our own conclusions. Again, things aren't drawn out. There isn't hours of pointless exposition about shit we already know.
This is the main difference between pretty much all jRPGs and something like the Mother series. This is the main reason I can love a jRPG like Mother, but constantly deride other jRPGs.
Mother 2, 3... they understand nuance and subtlety. Other jRPGs don't. Itoi understands the power of suggestion. Others don't.
Mother 3 is the only jRPG where the death of a mother feels real and human, despite the fact that it is a
giant dinosaur that kills her
Davey Cakes
Member
I actually just named them all their defaults. Lucas, Claus, Flint, Boney, Hinawa, Kumatora, Duster, etc.
That said,
because I do have a brother and was capable of establishing the connection. I can see why having the names match might make the story more effective, but I was affected regardless of the names.
That said,
I did cry at the final battle
lucablight
Member
Why was this game released on the GBA instead of the DS?
BorkBork said:
I don't know why, either! It's not a hard concept to grasp. And I don't think having endless scenes which go on and on and drag the whole production down is really the reason these jRPGs sell.
I think they sell because people don't really have many alternatives if they like jRPG gameplay.
It's a real shame we don't have more games, both serious and funny in tone, that understand the important things in stories. Mother 3 is an anomaly in our poor hobby.
Masked Man
I said wow
It always makes me happy to see this thread get bumped. <3
As it were, I'm supposed to write a brief essay (600-800 characters) for Japanese about the story that moved me the most / made me cry the most. Anyone who frequents this thread will have a good idea of which story I've selected. ;D
As it were, I'm supposed to write a brief essay (600-800 characters) for Japanese about the story that moved me the most / made me cry the most. Anyone who frequents this thread will have a good idea of which story I've selected. ;D
;__;
Amir0x said:
This is how I have felt for years but could never put it in words. I pretty much hate the JRPG genre but Earthbound was one of my top 5 games ever.
With other jRPGs, I would always get to a point where i would only want to finish to get it over with. Since it had been years since Earthbound had come out, I feared I would grow tired of Mother 3. But, I never did and the story seemed to have perfect timing and pacing.
Hey guys! Since this is my introduction to Gaf, I thought the best way to introduce myself is bumping up my favourite game's thread and just appreciate it.
Mother 3 tracks are definately one of the high points in the whole industry, so instead of me talking of how this game is awesome, I'll just leave you with great music!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8eSPLZV9O9M&feature=related
Mother 3 tracks are definately one of the high points in the whole industry, so instead of me talking of how this game is awesome, I'll just leave you with great music!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8eSPLZV9O9M&feature=related
I really need to get back to this game. I really enjoyed the first hours I played of it, but I am trying to do it in Japanese, and everything written in hiragana only makes it very hard to understand for me (still learning the language...). Surprisingly, it is easier to understand new words when they're written in kanji (because you can guess the meaning without reading them).
My only problem was the combat system which seemed to me a bit easy once you got the rhythm part. I mean, once you got the right pattern, you keep chaining the enemy a bit too easily... maybe? Does it get harder later in the game? Or maybe is there more variety in the combats??
My only problem was the combat system which seemed to me a bit easy once you got the rhythm part. I mean, once you got the right pattern, you keep chaining the enemy a bit too easily... maybe? Does it get harder later in the game? Or maybe is there more variety in the combats??
What chapter are you in? The game definately gets a lot more easier if you can make long combos at will. But as you advance in the game, you'll need to use buffs and debuffs and shields in order to survive.
Also, later in the game, you get remixes of the songs, so it's even harder to combo.
Also, later in the game, you get remixes of the songs, so it's even harder to combo.
The best solution is a GBA flash cart of some kind. They were discussed earlier in the thread. I don't know much about them myself, but I do know that real hardware is the only thing that allows for proper timing for the music combos. I found it pretty hard with an emulator, but it's so much easier on the original Japanese cart.
Nose Master
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I've never heard of this working on GBA/DS (the save system farts up). It works on PSP, but the sound is off a bit so it's impossible to get combos other than to get lucky with spamming.