THE:MILKMAN
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I think I prefer Durango's secret sauce, it has more tang and doesn't leave an aftertaste.
Proelite, do you know what the secret sauce is in both systems?
I think I prefer Durango's secret sauce, it has more tang and doesn't leave an aftertaste.
Doubt it since until today there was no indication from any of the 'insiders' in the next gen threads that Orbis will have secret sauce.Proelite, do you know what the secret sauce is in both systems?
I think I prefer Durango's secret sauce, it has more tang and doesn't leave an aftertaste.
Now we are talking.i smell the shaders in durango gpu are also custom,at least arranged in a more efficient way. Somewhere speculated that nowadays alus where not very good with vertex shaders.Maybe geometry management wil have its own block...Take fixed tasks that are computationally expensive, particularly for more general purpose GPU hardware, and make hardware that is good at that kind of task specifically. The problem with GPUs is that they're doing a lot of things that they're decent at, rather than fewer things that they're really good at.
I think I prefer Durango's secret sauce, it has more tang and doesn't leave an aftertaste.
Take fixed tasks that are computationally expensive, particularly for more general purpose GPU hardware, and make hardware that is good at that kind of task specifically. The problem with GPUs is that they're doing a lot of things that they're decent at, rather than fewer things that they're really good at.
Can those in the know put a rough price estimate down on Orbis? I know that's a difficult question, but ballpark it? Are we looking at $300 console, $400 console... $599 console?
Or assuming $400-$500 does it seem like we are missing a piece of the puzzle? Like expensive controller of some sort
$399, and a very healthy profit margin within a year. I'm sure the Super Saiyan version will cost $50-$100 more (includes your favorite LCD controller!)
Can those in the know put a rough price estimate down on Orbis? I know that's a difficult question, but ballpark it? Are we looking at $300 console, $400 console... $599 console?
Or assuming $400-$500 does it seem like we are missing a piece of the puzzle? Like expensive controller of some sort
Isn't rellying on secret sauce a recipe for disaster ?
Cell in PS3 was such an idea with small cores supposed to aid weaker gpu - didn't exactly went as planned.
PS4 sounds better platform overall...
PS4 sounds better platform overall...
Dont tell me its raycasting related!It can be? Cell is a bad example, because that was supposed to be a supercomputer-on-a-chip that was powerful enough for everything, but turned out not to be late in the game, which led to Sony contracting with Nvidia for the RSX, which was poorly matched. I *think* that what Microsoft is going for makes a lot of sense, assuming I have it right, but it could totally blow up in their face. It's a risk.
Can those in the know put a rough price estimate down on Orbis? I know that's a difficult question, but ballpark it? Are we looking at $300 console, $400 console... $599 console?
Or assuming $400-$500 does it seem like we are missing a piece of the puzzle? Like expensive controller of some sort
we still know very little ..especially about Durango GPU etc
That sounds.......massively disappointing. The PS4 is going to have less power than a year old laptop when it comes out and the next Xbox is rumored to be even less powerful. We waited 7 years for this? Looks like I'll be sticking with PC gaming.
That's where I'd put it too, but those controller rumours got me thinking that there may be more to the system than we expect. Assuming these two systems are roughly the same level and MS are shipping standardised Kinect - then it would seem Sony could either aim to beat them on price or introduce something like a LCD controller$399, and a very healthy profit margin within a year. I'm sure the Super Saiyan version will cost $50-$100 more (includes your favorite LCD controller!)
That sounds.......massively disappointing. The PS4 is going to have less power than a year old laptop when it comes out and the next Xbox is rumored to be even less powerful. We waited 7 years for this? Looks like I'll be sticking with PC gaming.
That sounds.......massively disappointing. The PS4 is going to have less power than a year old laptop when it comes out and the next Xbox is rumored to be even less powerful. We waited 7 years for this? Looks like I'll be sticking with PC gaming.
That sounds.......massively disappointing. The PS4 is going to have less power than a year old laptop when it comes out and the next Xbox is rumored to be even less powerful. We waited 7 years for this? Looks like I'll be sticking with PC gaming.
Dont tell me its raycasting related!
PS4 sounds better platform overall...
PS4 sounds better platform overall...
That sounds.......massively disappointing. The PS4 is going to have less power than a year old laptop when it comes out and the next Xbox is rumored to be even less powerful. We waited 7 years for this? Looks like I'll be sticking with PC gaming.
Proelite, do you know what the secret sauce is in both systems?
That sounds.......massively disappointing. The PS4 is going to have less power than a year old laptop when it comes out and the next Xbox is rumored to be even less powerful. We waited 7 years for this? Looks like I'll be sticking with PC gaming.
That sounds.......massively disappointing. The PS4 is going to have less power than a year old laptop when it comes out and the next Xbox is rumored to be even less powerful. We waited 7 years for this? Looks like I'll be sticking with PC gaming.
Honestly? No. Right now it seems like PS4 is leaps beyond the next Xbox.However, that is simply because we don't know what modification MS is doing to the GPU, so we'll have to wait and see.At this point it may or may not have a slight advantage in performances.
But what's for sure is that there won't be a huge difference. In other terms, third parties will once again looks globally the same on both platform, and first parties may push a little beyond the best ones.
Take fixed tasks that are computationally expensive, particularly for more general purpose GPU hardware, and make hardware that is good at that kind of task specifically. The problem with GPUs is that they're doing a lot of things that they're decent at, rather than fewer things that they're really good at.
Same for PS3 lolPS4 sounds better platform overall...
So anybody have a clue what these secret sauces are? Could it be a second "weaker" GPU for the Orbis. There were rumors of a dual-GPU setup a while back, if I remember correctly.
Well, EDRam would certainly be a valid response to GDDR5. What truly matters after all, beyond the quantity, is the total bandwidth. This doesn't only depends on memory type, but also on buses used.Cannot believe the Orbis is going to have 4gb gddr5. Maybe I'm missing something but that seems a crazy advantage. Unless MS really has shifted its focus, not sure how or why they wouldn't have something in the Durango to make up for it.
Can we call the secret sauce something other than secret sauce?
I'm still going with a Cell-like chipset to preform those specific tasks.GPGPU?
Same for PS3 lol
That sounds.......massively disappointing. The PS4 is going to have less power than a year old laptop when it comes out and the next Xbox is rumored to be even less powerful. We waited 7 years for this? Looks like I'll be sticking with PC gaming.
GPGPU?
Can we call the secret sauce something other than secret sauce?
360 1.5. Cue the wall guy pics lmaoXbox 360.1
Here we go again...
Wait so the day 360 came out you were waiting for its predecessor? okay thenThat sounds.......massively disappointing. The PS4 is going to have less power than a year old laptop when it comes out and the next Xbox is rumored to be even less powerful. We waited 7 years for this? Looks like I'll be sticking with PC gaming.