azertydu91
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I don't think they turned it into a bad things for gamer it's just a bad thing for the console.It will probably give more money to MS thanks to the (
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Eurogamer: "Microsoft's final sales pitch for Xbox One X falls flat"
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I don't think they turned it into a bad things for gamer it's just a bad thing for the console.It will probably give more money to MS thanks to the (
KZXcellent
Member
An E3 recap that came 2 months late.
ronaldthump
Member
There is another component to why Xbox is struggling. Honestly, a lot of their titles have failed to be the kind of flagship, tentpole system sellers that AAA first-party exclusives are expected to be.
If we look at some of the social metrics of how much interest are there in the games that are supposedly coming out in the first half of next year, comparing MS's 3 spring exclusives vs Sony's 2 big early 2018 games...
ouch.
dat spiderman hype. I guess it bridges both comics and console gamers. and movie fans.
What? We're not even talking Windows 10 or demanding games here.
The original Xbox and first half of the Xbox 360 era was filled with a ton of great exclusives though.
On Xbox from just 2001 to 2005, you had:
Breakdown
Buffy the Vampire Slayer
Conker: Live & Reloaded
Crimson Skies: High Road to Revenge
Dead or Alive 3
Dead or Alive Ultimate
Dead or Alive Xtreme Beach Volleyball
Forza Motorsport
Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon 2: Summit Strike
Grabbed by the Ghoulies
Gunvalkyrie
Jet Set Radio Future
MechAssault
MechAssault 2: Lone Wolf
Metal Wolf Chaos
Ninja Gaiden
Ninja Gaiden Black
Otogi: Myth of Demons
Otogi 2: Immortal Warriors
Panzer Dragoon Orta
Phantom Crash
Project Gotham Racing
Project Gotham Racing 2
Quantum Redshift
Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six: Critical Hour
RalliSport Challenge 2
Sega GT 2002
Steel Battalion
Steel Battalion: Line of Contact
ToeJam & Earl III: Mission to Earth
Unreal Championship
Unreal Championship 2: The Liandri Conflict
And doesn't even include console-exclusive games like Elders Scrolls III: Morrowind, Halo 1 or 2 (the biggest games on the system), or even Shenmue II that wasn't on competing consoles at the time. Plus it also had the best versions of every multiplatform game that came to the system.
That would be a big-time heavy-hitting list today. Microsoft's ability to put together a cool library feels non-existent compared to 15 years ago.
Annoying Old Party Man
Member
I think that Microsoft is operating an Xbox rebranding and it starts by how it wants to be positioned hardware-wise.
We have gone, from the "The entertainment box that you command with your voice" image, to the "most powerful hardware and most pro-gamer company you will ever know" image in just a few years.
At least I hope that's what they want to do, and that they will follow suit in the software department next.
We have gone, from the "The entertainment box that you command with your voice" image, to the "most powerful hardware and most pro-gamer company you will ever know" image in just a few years.
At least I hope that's what they want to do, and that they will follow suit in the software department next.
Savantcore
Unconfirmed Member
Maybe you need to re-read the article mate. It isn't saying that Gamescom was a disappointment, it's about how last night was Microsoft's last opportunity to sell the Xbox One X and that they didn't pull it off.
He wasn't 'warping a situation to fit a need for a conversation that will work out well for the outlet in terms of views', as you put it, he's pointing out that, to him, MS didn't offer a convincing reason to buy their brand new console on one of the world's biggest stages. Or are you sticking to 'repeated empty criticism'?
Omnii-chan
Member
Brutal article. It's the kind of slap in the face Microsoft needs though. Bring back the OG Xbox and early 360 level output in cool varied games.
Hopefully they've got the box they want now and can pile on game development.
Duxxy3
Member
My Xbox 1 has become a Gears 1, 2, 3, Judgment adapter over the last year. I'm not sure I would have the system if it wasn't for BC.
Miniature Kaiju
Member
They're using the "games" category filter.
Nightengale
Member
I've filtered to "Games", as you can see.
Granted, Google algorithms and all that bullshit, so it's definitely not perfect, but it's the closest I can filter it to.
Besides, 2x the amount of media and social metrics of God of War is about there.
KZXcellent
Member
This is the secret of the sold out X:
I hate rich people.
With increased sales from being on PC too you would think Microsoft would then use that to fund more cross exclusives...
AngelOFDeath
Member
Damn Eurogamer, did Microsoft release a secret diss track your way
TharpDaddy
Member
Phil Spencer's Loophole is the gift that keeps giving.
You won't need a "gaming PC" to play Ori or Cuphead.
RichiRamjag
Member
That's my deal. I've got one on order, but I don't think it's worth it to get rid of my one S and my PS4 pro when the pro isn't going to be that far behind.
Honestly, the only reason I'm buying this is because I can trade in my Xbox One for it to get a nice 4k disc player. I have a PS4 Pro, I have a gaming PC, I honestly should not be buying it if I was smarter with my money. But at the very least it'll be a nice platform to play third party titles that I'd rather play on a console in my living room than on my PC.
I really wish Microsoft had some good first party coming up. I could at least justify this as a Crackdown machine before it was delayed, but now all I seem to have are Cuphead and Super Lucky's Tale. Frankly, Microsoft has done a poor job this generation at making themselves a worthwhile pick over the other two console competitors.
I really wish Microsoft had some good first party coming up. I could at least justify this as a Crackdown machine before it was delayed, but now all I seem to have are Cuphead and Super Lucky's Tale. Frankly, Microsoft has done a poor job this generation at making themselves a worthwhile pick over the other two console competitors.
an age old battle plays out for the ten millionth time on the internet.
Ban Puncher
Member
They never were going to a announce new games. I feel next years E3 will be make or break for them.
If you want the best looking multiplatform games on a CONSOLE then the X is for you.
That has always been their message and contrary to thoughts on GAF. Thats what matters for most people, not exclusives.
Now it being 500 may hurt that objective. I got my order in
If you want the best looking multiplatform games on a CONSOLE then the X is for you.
That has always been their message and contrary to thoughts on GAF. Thats what matters for most people, not exclusives.
Now it being 500 may hurt that objective. I got my order in
TheDarkKnight774
Member
The only real market I see for the Xbox One X is existing Xbox One owners. They're the only ones I could see motivated to spend $500 on the console since it refreshes a system they already have a lot of games for. Especially the dedicated early adopters of the original Xbox one. I'm not sure who else would jump in on this box.
Ricerocket
Member
The show yesterday was a very long infomercial. I can see it doing more damage than if they didn't have one and just announced a pre-order without it.
Not just that but it felt like it was also a big push for Mixer, trying to get people into it with giveaways yet the stream had many problems come up for many people.
Whole thing was a dud.
Not just that but it felt like it was also a big push for Mixer, trying to get people into it with giveaways yet the stream had many problems come up for many people.
Whole thing was a dud.
Ah ah ah, incredible !
JamesHolden
Banned
It's pretty simple. If you (a) don't like playing single player games; and (b) prefer to use a controller; then (c) the Xbox One X is likely the best experience available for you. Many on GAF don't fall into both these buckets, which is fine, but we exist. I guess Eurogamer doesn't understand us though. Oh well. We'll have to get validation somewhere else.
azertydu91
Hard to Kill
But what about people genuinely interested in the god of war? Mars ,Ares or any other ...
just in doubt it was sarcasm
Darklor01
Might need to stop sniffing glue
I'm constantly confused as to what messaging people were reading that made them think this box was going to be anything but this. There hasn't been a single thing I read which told me that this box would have any exclusives or pc/xbox exclusives at launch or coming any time soon outside of the already known ones. Down the road, perhaps there's one or two, but even Halo (outside of Halo Wars) teams say no new Halo shooter anytime soon.
It helps that they pretty much had a blank check to sign deals back then, which they seemingly don't have anymore.
gundamkyoukai
Member
I really don't think launch sales will be good in the UK .
That is way to expensive over there .
Kenzodielocke
Banned
I suspect most buyers for the XBX are people that are already in the Xbox eco-stystem, similiarly to PS4 Pro. I have a hard time believing, if you don't have a console, that you will buy the most expensive one.
PositiveGamer
Member
Yet myself and others have already preorder it. Lol
Am sure it will be fine.
Am sure it will be fine.
Zvonimir Boban
Banned
Fuck, I wonder if MS know that their Play Anywhere program means people don't have to buy an Xbox. They're going to kick themselves when they realise they've forgotten about that loophole.
Sea of Thieves is biding its time, like a shark deep below the surface before it rises up to devour the competition and claims its place as the best game ever made.
:jnc
There is another component to why Xbox is struggling. Honestly, a lot of their titles have failed to be the kind of flagship, tentpole system sellers that AAA first-party exclusives are expected to be.
If we look at some of the social metrics of how much interest are there in the games that are supposedly coming out in the first half of next year, comparing MS's 3 spring exclusives vs Sony's 2 big early 2018 games...
Sea of Thieves is biding its time, like a shark deep below the surface before it rises up to devour the competition and claims its place as the best game ever made.
I'm going to be so heartbroken if it ends up being crap :*(
:jnc
dealer-
Member
Yeah the X might be a worthwhile investment if you knew every developer would maximize the potential of 6TF but as we have seen with the Pro, support will probably be rather lacklustre overall.
Anyway, buying the Pro has taught me not to buy into mid gen upgrades again.
Saint Gregory
Member
That's why the history is shown. Spider-man gets a very clear bump during E3.
FonkyByNature
Member
The problem with the Xbox One is that it's brings pretty much nothing compared to the PS4. Ok some will say controller, ecosystem etc. and they're right, but that changes nothing overall for the masses. People will go for the best bang for their buck, which the PS4 does a way better job at imo.
I'm an Xbox One owner from almost day one and bought pretty much all their exclusives and have tons of games on their platform but to me, a lot of these games lack something. Maybe the games are too much more of the same, like Halo and Gears. I'm still not sure i want an Xbox One X as i know after the honeymoon period, i'm afraid i will realize that i just thrown money in the garbage as the console will bring nothing other than graphics and then it's back to square one.
It's just frustrating to see so many very good games going PS4 exclusive and no Xbox version. I'm talking stuff like Nier, Persona, Street Fighter V, the indie games and more recently Hellblade. I sometimes wonder what the f**k are Microsoft doing ?
I'm an Xbox One owner from almost day one and bought pretty much all their exclusives and have tons of games on their platform but to me, a lot of these games lack something. Maybe the games are too much more of the same, like Halo and Gears. I'm still not sure i want an Xbox One X as i know after the honeymoon period, i'm afraid i will realize that i just thrown money in the garbage as the console will bring nothing other than graphics and then it's back to square one.
It's just frustrating to see so many very good games going PS4 exclusive and no Xbox version. I'm talking stuff like Nier, Persona, Street Fighter V, the indie games and more recently Hellblade. I sometimes wonder what the f**k are Microsoft doing ?
OrbitalBeard
Member
For the longest time, the X made no sense to me, but I kind of get it now.
It exists almost solely for the current Xbox audience. Its purpose is to keep many of them from jumping into another ecosystem and to motivate their whales to continue spending lots and lots of money. There aren't going to be any giant exclusives from MS again this generation (outside of another Halo, Gears, Forza, etc.), because they know they've lost. The X is purely a stopgap for their current base.
So yeah, in light of that, their E3 and Gamescom efforts no longer baffle me. They aren't trying to sell new consumers on these products.
It exists almost solely for the current Xbox audience. Its purpose is to keep many of them from jumping into another ecosystem and to motivate their whales to continue spending lots and lots of money. There aren't going to be any giant exclusives from MS again this generation (outside of another Halo, Gears, Forza, etc.), because they know they've lost. The X is purely a stopgap for their current base.
So yeah, in light of that, their E3 and Gamescom efforts no longer baffle me. They aren't trying to sell new consumers on these products.
Salty Rice
Member
But they announced yesterday a exclusive vertical stand that is included with the Project Scorpio Edition. Pretty hype.
Xaero Gravity
NEXT LEVEL lame™
You of all people on GAF are the last person that should be be taking any digs at someone's loyalty towards a console manufacturer.
Savantcore
Unconfirmed Member
Again, Eurogamer aren't ragging on the Xbox One X for it is or isn't. The author is pointing out that MS's final 'sales pitch' for the X1X fell flat, which it did.
If MS are targeting gamers who prefer playing online and with a controller, why were the headline features a new Jurassic Park sim, Assassin's Creed trailer, and bloody 4K patches for kids games?
Skiptastic
Member
Agreed, though they could do something pretty close to that if they packaged two games with the system. Not that they will, but they could create a value parity that way.
I'm glad you know me, it makes me feel so good.
But to think that this event was in someway going to do that is very strange, for someone in the press he should have known this was a Xbox E3 daily deal. Based on what he would need to convince him he was never going to get that from this event, so I find it strange he would only come to this realisation now. If he knew what this event was he could have written it before it even started, not to mention this article has been written multiple times on Eurogamer with out any change in this constant popular opinion. It seems like a meaningless repeat, I wonder why as an outlet or the writer why he wouldn't want to come at it from a different angle. An actual hard hitting interview with an Xbox exec would be far better for the conversation, Shannon Loftis is at Gamescom a perfect person to interview about first party. I just wonder why there is no actual constructive criticism (ideas), it's just another review of a situation that hasn't changed at all.