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[Basileus777]

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That opening scene had me wondering if this show might have something worthwhile in it. The Engrish, all the awkward poses and walking, the awful filter, I was highly amused by the beginning of the episode. Unfortunately it just turns boring after that. Too bad the show has the white haired kid and the school stuff instead of just the more entertaining nonsense in the opening. I doubt I'll watch any more.

 

[amishpriest99]

Chuunibyou 1

Charming, funny, and dat eyepatch moe . Off to a good start.

 

[Brazil]

I remember when we had quality cg tv shows like starship troopers and beast wars
that was more than 13 years ago
what happened?

Our standards got higher.

Sounds like mah kinda show.

My exact reaction.

 

[kayos90]

Our standards got higher.



My exact reaction.

Oh man... and Beast Wars is on Netflix for those who want to see how it was. LOL>

 

[Dedication Through Light]

It doesn't take much to be a better character than Flay. Fortunately, SEED Cagalli is a pretty good character imo. SEED Destiny Cagalli, though...you'll see when you get there.

Also, Fafner just got a BD release so I was thinking of giving it another shot. Didn't do a lot for me the first time around, but that was several years ago.

Have they said if they are giving Destiny Remaster treatment, probably only way I would watch.

Just finished fafner a three weeks ago, I thought it was good bd release, cant wait for the movie in a few weeks.

 

[BluWacky]

Do you think the first episode of Madoka is particularly confusing or challenging? Because that's the level of "confusion" we're talking about here. The show establishes what is going on pretty quickly, and there's nothing particularly strange about it. There's a specific choice made in presenting a specific order of events at the start of the episode, and there's a reason for that.

As we discussed in IRC last night*, the first episode of Tempest actually does a lot to make the manga less confusing by reordering events slightly (I guess it also helps that Crunchyroll's translation of the anime is stronger than the scanlation of the manga). The flashback sequences are much clearer, and the emphasis of the "mysterious" atmosphere is less on the more obvious plot elements (

Spoiler

that Aika and Yoshino were dating

) and more on interesting characterisation (

Spoiler

Aika's line about Yoshino's true personality and the looks they share with each other

).

If anything, Tempest is very straightforward in that the first episode dumps a lot of exposition on the viewer through Evangeline and Hakaze.

*well, you discussed and I agreed once you reminded me what had changed from the manga, anyway!

 

[duckroll]

http://psycho-pass.com/story/#keyword
http://psycho-pass.com/about/#pro-notes

They added more "why you should be excited" stuff on the site, and updated some keywords and stuff. Anyway, new images:

 

[Jarmel]

Do you think the first episode of Madoka is particularly confusing or challenging? Because that's the level of "confusion" we're talking about here. The show establishes what is going on pretty quickly, and there's nothing particularly strange about it. There's a specific choice made in presenting a specific order of events at the start of the episode, and there's a reason for that.

Have you even watched it?

I disagree, Madoka was much more clear about a timeframe and was more linear. Yes there is the intro bit in the beginning but the rest is pretty straightforward. Blast of Tempest has at least a couple of jumps that are thrown in there for misdirection purposes. It's much more non-linear storytelling where there is a big jump and then you have a ton of flashbacks where a time frame isn't given.

 

[Canis lupus]

WttNHK 23

Love the ensuing scene, fucking Sato... I have a bad feeling about the end. :/

Sounds like mah kinda show.

You should watch it! Btw is that Tsumugi in your avatar?

 

[duckroll]

I disagree, Madoka was much more clear about a timeframe and was more linear. Yes there is the intro bit in the beginning but the rest is pretty straightforward. Blast of Tempest at least a couple of jumps that are thrown in there for misdirection purposes. It's much more non-linear storytelling where there is a big jump and then you have a ton of flashbacks where a time frame isn't given.

The time frames were all given. Maybe you just missed them.

 

[Jarmel]

The time frames were all given. Maybe you just missed them.

So they stated that x or y event happened two months ago? The only one I'm aware of is the

Spoiler

friend disappearance happening a month ago.

 

[Maedhros]

So they stated that x or y event happened two months ago? The only one I'm aware of is the

Spoiler

friend disappearance happening a month ago.

Why do we even need these timeframes? I mean, I never read the manga and I understood everything perfectly. Two friends, sister get killed, brother dissapear to look for her killer, brother contracts with magician, explain what is the syndrome... everthing was pretty clear for me.

 

[madp]

It doesn't take much to be a better character than Flay. Fortunately, SEED Cagalli is a pretty good character imo. SEED Destiny Cagalli, though...you'll see when you get there.

Also, Fafner just got a BD release so I was thinking of giving it another shot. Didn't do a lot for me the first time around, but that was several years ago.

don't do it don't do it don't do it don't do it

 

[BluWacky]

Also, Fafner just got a BD release so I was thinking of giving it another shot. Didn't do a lot for me the first time around, but that was several years ago.

After you've heard a sentence that includes the words "umbrella of smiles" the series improves drastically, but up to that point it might be a struggle...

 

[Necrovex]

WttNHK 23



Love the ensuing scene, fucking Sato... I have a bad feeling about the end. :/

I always love when people watch NHK, still one of my favorite anime shows.

 

[Jarmel]

Why do we even need these timeframes? I mean, I never read the manga and I understood everything perfectly. Two friends, sister get killed, brother dissapear to look for her killer, brother contracts with magician, explain what is the syndrome... everthing was pretty clear for me.

It's jarring when you have flashbacks to different time-periods all thrown together. There are at least three different time periods that the show just jumps to.

 

[amishpriest99]

Have they said if they are giving Destiny Remaster treatment, probably only way I would watch.

Just finished fafner a three weeks ago, I thought it was good bd release, cant wait for the movie in a few weeks.

Nothing has been announced for Destiny, but I expect that it will probably happen in the next year or two. It would be nice if it would be a full remake but I suppose removing the recap episodes and addressing the recycled footage issues would be the most we could hope for.

 

[duckroll]

So they stated that x or y event happened two months ago? The only one I'm aware of is the

Spoiler

friend disappearance happening a month ago.

Well since you need someone to spell it out for you:

Spoiler

Mahiro stopped attending school a month ago, and Yoshino hasn't seen him since.

The flashback later between Yoshino and Mahiro specifies that at that point Aika was murdered 10 months ago, Mahiro is sick of waiting for the authorities and wants to do something about it. It can be concluded that shortly after this, he disappeared, and since then he has been traveling from "place to place" as Yamamoto said, trying to find answers.

The opening scene shows Aika, Yoshino, and Mahiro together, which means it took place before she died.

The date invitation which will never happen was sent on 11/23. That phone message serves as a opening and ending to the episode itself, to show how time has stood still for Yoshino since that day.

In the middle of the episode, it starts snowing, indicating that Winter is starting, and it is the end of the year.

Conclusion? The opening scene was when they were all together, then Aika is killed at the end of November, and after 10 months Mahiro goes out looking for vigilante justice, and after a month or so the show starts. It is now almost a year after Aika's death.

It's really not confusing at all.

It's jarring when you have flashbacks to different time-periods all thrown together. There are at least three different time periods that the show just jumps to.

It's not jarring if you fucking pay attention. Jesus Christ.

 

[Maedhros]

It's jarring when you have flashbacks to different time-periods all thrown together. There are at least three different time periods that the show just jumps to.

Maybe you're just slow?

What duckroll just posted is exactly what I had understood about the first episode. There's nothing wrong there at all.

 

[duckroll]

Maybe you're just slow?

Now, now, no need to get too mean. Maybe he was just tired when he watched the episode. Happens to the best of us!

 

[Canis lupus]

I always love when people watch NHK, still one of my favorite anime shows.

It climbed to one of my favourites aswel, pleasantly surprised lol.

 

[kayos90]

Nothing has been announced for Destiny, but I expect that it will probably happen in the next year or two. It would be nice if it would be a full remake but I suppose removing the recap episodes and addressing the recycled footage issues would be the most we could hope for.

I doubt we'll see HD Destiny.

 

[duckroll]

I doubt we'll see HD Destiny.

Why?

 

[kayos90]

Why?

IIRC, it didn't have any sequences in the show where it looked like ass. I mean, I guess they could do it if they really want to make money in every possible way. Honestly, I don't think Destiny deserves it.

 

[Ultimadrago]

yeah.. mmm... sorry?

You are already forgiven.

 

[Dresden]

IIRC, it didn't have any sequences in the show where it looked like ass. I mean, I guess they could do it if they really want to make money in every possible way. Honestly, I don't think Destiny deserves it.

I think it selling a ton (or too much, rather) is reason enough for the people that decide it.

 

[kayos90]

I think it selling a ton (or too much, rather) is reason enough for the people that decide it.

Sure. I can buy that. No double meaning intended.

 

[Steroyd]

Busou Shinki - 01

I could try and pick up my brain matter and describe what the fuck this show is, but this formula is an easier way to describe it.

+

+

+

 

[duckroll]

Sure. I can buy that. No double meaning intended.

You know that the Gundam SEED HD Project is not about quality, but about making money right? They're remastering everything from the show to the music and so on, just to re-release more CDs and BDs under the "HD" label. You really think they won't do Destiny right after this? Lol.

 

[Train of Midnight]

Busou Shinki - 01

I could try and pick up my brain matter and describe what the fuck this show is, but this formula is an easier way to describe it.

SOUNDS PRETTY GOOD TO ME, BUD

 

[kayos90]

You know that the Gundam SEED HD Project is not about quality, but about making money right? They're remastering everything from the show to the music and so on, just to re-release more CDs and BDs under the "HD" label. You really think they won't do Destiny right after this? Lol.

Meh. Yall convinced me. Honestly, I thought it wouldn't get the treatment because I thought the demand wouldn't be there.

 

[Canis lupus]

WttNHK 24 fin

Spoiler

No first kiss!

Beautiful show, funny yet sad. I'll either give this an 8 or 9.

 

[OceanBlue]

Busou Shinki - 01

I could try and pick up my brain matter and describe what the fuck this show is, but this formula is an easier way to describe it.

What?

Originally I wasn't really interested in watching it, but now my interest is piqued. Plus, K-On is in that equation!

 

[SDBurton]

Kannazuki no Miko - 05

So

Spoiler

Souma confessed his love for Himeko during his fight and she couldn't be happier...

 

[amishpriest99]

IIRC, it didn't have any sequences in the show where it looked like ass. I mean, I guess they could do it if they really want to make money in every possible way. Honestly, I don't think Destiny deserves it.

And that's probably why it'll happen. For better or worse it was popular enough that they could justify an HD remaster.

 

[Ultimadrago]

Busou Shinki - 01

I could try and pick up my brain matter and describe what the fuck this show is, but this formula is an easier way to describe it.

Looks like something I would despise watching.

Might as well see one episode.

 

[duckroll]

Meh. Yall convinced me. Honestly, I thought it wouldn't get the treatment because I thought the demand wouldn't be there.

SEED HD BD boxes are selling over 10k per box. Lol.

 

[Jarmel]

Maybe you're just slow?

What duckroll just posted is exactly what I had understood about the first episode. There's nothing wrong there at all.

Maybe you shouldn't use ad hominems when making a point?

Well since you need someone to spell it out for you:

Spoiler

Mahiro stopped attending school a month ago, and Yoshino hasn't seen him since.

The flashback later between Yoshino and Mahiro specifies that at that point Aika was murdered 10 months ago, Mahiro is sick of waiting for the authorities and wants to do something about it. It can be concluded that shortly after this, he disappeared, and since then he has been traveling from "place to place" as Yamamoto said, trying to find answers.

The opening scene shows Aika, Yoshino, and Mahiro together, which means it took place before she died.

The date invitation which will never happen was sent on 11/23. That phone message serves as a opening and ending to the episode itself, to show how time has stood still for Yoshino since that day.

In the middle of the episode, it starts snowing, indicating that Winter is starting, and it is the end of the year.

Conclusion? The opening scene was when they were all together, then Aika is killed at the end of November, and after 10 months Mahiro goes out looking for vigilante justice, and after a month or so the show starts. It is now almost a year after Aika's death.

It's really not confusing at all.

It's not jarring if you fucking pay attention. Jesus Christ.

The issue isn't about the flashbacks in of themselves, the bigger issue is how they're handled. It's obviously done for narrative misdirection such as

Spoiler

the argument at the cementary

. You have one huge jump then two jumps backwards to prior time periods, one of which is done with relatively little fanfare. You only get a sense of the timeframe until the scene at the

Spoiler

cementary

. What compounds this is the amount of stuff that actually happens in-between these flashbacks.

Spoiler

. In the first jump Mahito has been missing for a month. The second jump all three are there, we don't know how long ago. The third jump Aika has been dead for awhile.

. The timeframe itself isn't hard to figure out, it's just the way it's handled in the show is what I thought messy and done mostly for the purpose of tricking the viewers.

 

[kayos90]

SEED HD BD boxes are selling over 10k per box. Lol.

Welp

 

[Hellsing321]

SEED HD BD boxes are selling over 10k per box. Lol.

Is Destiny as reviled in Japan as it seems to be in the western fandom? Though I guess Japanese Gundam fans will buy anything as long it has Jesus Yamato in it.

 

[duckroll]

The issue isn't about the flashbacks in of themselves, the bigger issue is how they're handled. It's obviously done for narrative misdirection such as

Spoiler

the argument at the cementary

. You have one huge jump then two jumps backwards to prior time periods, one of which is done with relatively little fanfare. You only get a sense of the timeframe until the scene at the

Spoiler

cementary

. What compounds this is the amount of stuff that actually happens in-between these flashbacks.

Spoiler

. In the first jump Mahito has been missing for a month. The second jump all three are there, we don't know how long ago. The third jump Aika has been dead for awhile.

. The timeframe itself isn't hard to figure out, it's just the way it's handled in the show is what I thought messy and done mostly for the purpose of tricking the viewers.

I think you're really making this to be a much bigger deal than it's even worth discussing. In each post you make, you shift the goal post to introduce "new problems" because you want to have something to argue about with regards to why this is a "bad thing" instead of you simply not getting it. At this point, no one cares anymore because everyone else got it, you said it was confusing, we explained, and then you go "No, no, it's not that, it's this instead."

Whatever. Lol.

 

[amishpriest99]

SEED HD BD boxes are selling over 10k per box. Lol.

What's also telling is that there are a couple of extra small hooks in SEED HD to tie in further with Destiny. But yeah, money talks.

 

[cajunator]

Kingdom 18

i could literally feel my brain screaming in agony as it slowly died while watching this. i'll make some gifs if i wake up tomorrow

"not sure if seen some shit"

WttNHK 21

Spoiler

Goodbye Yamazaki...

;_;. So many feels. so many. SO good.

http://psycho-pass.com/story/#keyword
http://psycho-pass.com/about/#pro-notes

They added more "why you should be excited" stuff on the site, and updated some keywords and stuff. Anyway, new images:

Architecture porn is best porn. Akane sketch looks cute. We picked the right team ducky.

It climbed to one of my favourites aswel, pleasantly surprised lol.

Yeah its one of those shows I'm not sure where it goes on my ranking, but I'm always happy to rewatch it. Its an unusual show that I just feel really comfortable watching. Certainly I'm not a NEET obviously, or a Hikikomori, but I can sympathize with such people.

Busou Shinki - 01

I could try and pick up my brain matter and describe what the fuck this show is, but this formula is an easier way to describe it.

Hand Maid May? Well that's an interesting choice. One of my favorite shows from my earlier anime watching days.

 

[yami4ct]

SEED HD BD boxes are selling over 10k per box. Lol.

This is why we can't have nice things, Japan

Is Destiny as reviled in Japan as it seems to be in the western fandom? Though I guess Japanese Gundam fans will buy anything as long it has Jesus Yamato in it.

I don't think it's as well received as SEED, but it's certainly not as reviled as it is in the West. Kira isn't even in a significant chunk of the show and Shin Asuka is awful no matter where you're from.

 

[duckroll]

Destiny is the best selling Gundam TV series on DVD of all time in Japan. The final volume almost sold 100k.

 

[Jarmel]

I think you're really making this to be a much bigger deal than it's even worth discussing. In each post you make, you shift the goal post to introduce "new problems" because you want to have something to argue about with regards to why this is a "bad thing" instead of you simply not getting it. At this point, no one cares anymore because everyone else got it, you said it was confusing, we explained, and then you go "No, no, it's not that, it's this instead."

Whatever. Lol.

I thought I've been relatively consistent on my complaint of the handling of the flashbacks. It's a relatively minor complaint as the rest of the episode is done fairly well but it's something I thought worth noting.

 

[yami4ct]

Destiny is the best selling Gundam TV series on DVD of all time in Japan. The final volume almost sold 100k.

That was after the show basically switches main characters back to Kira and his awful golden framed Strike Freedom. From what I've heard, the series as a whole may have sold, but wasn't received as well by SEED fans as the original.

 

[kayos90]

Destiny is the best selling Gundam TV series on DVD of all time in Japan. The final volume almost sold 100k.

Oh jeez. Did not know that!

EDIT: What about Final Plus?

 

[duckroll]

That was after the show basically switches main characters back to Kira and his awful golden framed Strike Freedom. From what I've heard, the series as a whole may have sold, but wasn't received as well by SEED fans as the original.

Nah, people should not mistake online bitching with actual popularity and commercial success. It is clear that Gundam SEED Destiny in Japan had even more fans than Gundam SEED did, and they liked the series a bunch. Ratings were good, model sales were great, game tie-in sales were strong, DVD sales were fantastic. It pretty consistently outsold SEED volume by volume even right from the start. If it really wasn't well received, it would not have sold so well, since the DVDs came out after it aired on TV.

http://dvdbd.wiki.fc2.com/wiki/機動戦士ガンダムSEED

I fucking hate Gundam SEED Destiny, but I think it's practically impossible to actually find actual evidence that the audience at large in Japan somehow didn't like Destiny. I don't understand why they would love such garbage, but they clearly do. This is one of the best examples of vocal minority in action.

 

[kayos90]

Nah, people should not mistake online bitching with actual popularity and commercial success. It is clear that Gundam SEED Destiny in Japan had even more fans than Gundam SEED did, and they liked the series a bunch. Ratings were good, model sales were great, game tie-in sales were strong, DVD sales were fantastic. It pretty consistently outsold SEED volume by volume even right from the start. If it really wasn't well received, it would not have sold so well, since the DVDs came out after it aired on TV.

http://dvdbd.wiki.fc2.com/wiki/機動戦士ガンダムSEED

I fucking hate Gundam SEED Destiny, but I think it's practically impossible to actually find actual evidence that the audience at large in Japan somehow didn't like Destiny. I don't understand why they would love such garbage, but they clearly do. This is one of the best examples of vocal minority in action.

If it did so well, why didn't they make another sequel? Just wondering. Something to do with Fukuda?