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Fallout New Vegas |OT| Obsidian does what Bethesdon't
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best way to make money is to go hunt fiends for stuff to sell. That or blackmountain for the highend weaponry. Barter skill is a great skill set to get if you want to get money the right way.
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Juryrigging (repair @ 90) is fucking awesome. buy a 90 cap gun. Use it to fix up a super expensive version. Sell for massive profit.
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Juryrigging (repair @ 90) is fucking awesome. buy a 90 cap gun. Use it to fix up a super expensive version. Sell for massive profit.
SixStringPsycho
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May I ask a question?
Why didnt you spoiler tagged the end battle?!
*update: Thank you kind sir
Why didnt you spoiler tagged the end battle?!
*update: Thank you kind sir
flarkminator
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Jax said:
Here's how I saw it:
I guess I shouldn't call him a GOOD guy. There is no question that he's an asshole. However, I didn't find him truly evil. I tried to picture society being restored in a world that fucked up and I just felt he really was the best choice. The NCR was just the same old shit that world had seen before. BoS is, regardless of how nice they might be to ME, technophobic extremists. Their plans for the continuation of humanity is for the rest of us to DIE OFF, and then they repopulate. Not exactly great choices. The best choice, the logical choice, is someone smart, someone in control but more importantly someone that almost can't die. He was just someone with a super long vision. It's a matter of what is best for mankind. I did waver because I wondered if he would have kept me alive after I helped him, which he did. Like he said he wasn't in it for personal gain or glory. Maybe it's arguable that he is lying about that.
finalozzo said:
Casinos or repairing good weapons and then selling them. Caravan was the fastest way to earn money for me, though. Just go to
the NCR Outpost
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njean777 said:
Me neither. 70 hours and I haven't had a single card in my inventory. It's one of those things I'll eventually learn, but for now, nah.
BeeDog said:Is there a "...For Dummies" guide to Caravan? The game seems awfully complex, and with my current university situation (and after Demon's Souls) I'm in no mood to study the rules like it's an exam.Any simple-as-fuck explanation would be great.
You have three piles of cards, opponent does too. You are both trying to get each pile to between 21-26 (but not over, 26 is the goal). From the initial set of cards you get, lay down three. Safest way is to start with low value cards like aces, 1-3. Then you can add cards in order of increasing value (either alternating black or red, I forget :lol) or all of the same suit.
Face Cards are exceptions and do the following:
Kings double the value of the card you place them next to. Place them next to a 4 and it will become 8. You can stack multiple Kings on the same card. One king goes next to a 2 and it becomes 4 - add another and it becomes 8.
Queens change the suit of the stack of cards. So if you've added all diamonds and you want to switch to a different suit, just put the queen next to the last card (it won't add value, just changes the suit of the next card you can put on the stack). E.g., red diamond 7 and you want to put down a black 8. Game won't let you if the entire stack is red diamond cards. Put a black queen (of any suit) next to the red diamond 7 and you can put down a black diamond 8 or higher (or 6 or lower if you want to reverse the numerical direction of the stack). If you alternate suits when first starting out, you won't ever need to use queens, e.g. start with red 2, put down a black 4 next, you can then add a red 5. It's only if you put down a red diamond 2 and then a red diamond 4 that you will be stuck adding only red diamond cards from that point on.
Jacks will remove cards that you place them next to. Most powerful way to use them is on your opponent's stacks. If your opponent just added a King next to a 10 on one of his stacks to get to 26, you can put a Jack next to that King and 10 and he will be forced to remove both cards. Works on cards that aren't paired with a face card too.
Jokers: dangerously powerful: Jokers played on Aces remove all non-face cards of the Ace's suit from the table. Jokers played on 2-10 remove all other cards of this value from the table. I usually use Jack's on my opponent's stacks, but be very careful because it can affect cards in your own stacks as well!
Those are the basics. It's like a modified version of blackjack. And since your opponents never use face cards on you, it's very easy to win.
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RE: caravan
i personally don't bother with everything between aces and fives, nor with queens and jokers. a deck with sixes through tens, jacks and kings makes for an easy win.
fuck your opponent over by placing jacks and kings on his pile. the game is broken in this regard since no opponent i've faced seems to do the same to me.
i personally don't bother with everything between aces and fives, nor with queens and jokers. a deck with sixes through tens, jacks and kings makes for an easy win.
fuck your opponent over by placing jacks and kings on his pile. the game is broken in this regard since no opponent i've faced seems to do the same to me.
I'd just add that you can, and should, also start a deck with a high card (up to and including 10) and work down. The second card determines which numerical direction you have to go with that particular caravan.luxarific said:
But yeah, game is unnecessarily confusing, and Ringo's explanation is just terrible. The pip-boy note isn't much better.
Timber said:
One thing is that you can increase your pack by buying cards from merchants. You'll see them in the initial "deck creation" screen where you can modify your Caravan deck to include any cards you'd like. They just have different backs to reflect the Casinos they come from.
(For awhile there I was buying every card I could from merchants hoping there would be a hidden achievement or other reward for collecting them all. lol But as far as I can tell, there's not.)
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X26 said:
Fuck, I wouldn't know what to do with that kind of money. I have just under 10K right now and most of it is collecting dust in a safe in Novac.
bhlaab said:
The Fort was a pretty accurate representation of what "order" was going to be like in this new Legion-conquered Mojave. Like that merchant said, the roads are safer and the Legion deals fairly with him so long as he obeys their laws--that sounds good until a slavewoman lurches up the hill with a heavy burden on her back. It's a society where not being male is going to block off every opportunity and where petty crimes are punished by crucifixion. That's pretty bad, man.
Dresden said:
Well that depends on how you look at it. I didn't side with the legion because of that, but choosing them won't get you the evil bastard ending like poisoning the water in Fallout 3 or killing a little sister in Bioshock.
There are just as good reasons to not side with the NCR. I didn't do that either, and I helped found the damn thing in Fallout 1!
Have you finished theFerrio said:Okay when do I get my first house/room/whatever? I'm at Novac and I think i've done all the quests, still no room
"Come Fly With Me" quest? If you have, speak to the motel manager about getting a room and you should get it for free. Assuming she's still alive that is...
SixStringPsycho
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this is a mod right?MMaRsu said:
:lol
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finalozzo said:
myself, Stealth Boy. High lockpick, entered the BOS shop from the entrance behind it and stole all the armors and helmets they had. TONS of cash, TONS
Jerk 2.0 said:
The NCR doesn't help its citizens unless it also serves the governments interests. The only reason they're in the mojave is to suck the dam's electricity back west. They don't massacre people like the legion but they are still conquerors, they just work dirty and pull strings behind the scenes. In Freeside they regulate the food and water that comes in to pressure the citizens into submission. They don't protect caravans effectively because their only interest is in the dam and the strip, meaning that the settlements they are supposed to be helping out don't get the supplies they need. Keep in mind that nobody in the Mojave asked them to be there.
water_wendi
Water is not wet!
Hit max level earlier. i forgot to make a snapshot but i got all of Bitter Springs, Camp Golf and Forlorn Hope done before i remembered so theres a few quests added into here.
Truth be told, it was easier than i thought it would be. The only hard part was a part in the early teens where i had not focused on my Sneak but was running into Deathclaws and Cazadors. If i were to do it again, i would probably put off one or two of the Fast Learner until later.and pick up Animal Friend 2/2 earlier.
Doing an Independent run i should finish out tonight. Shooting for 200 dialog checks now :lol
Pyke Presco
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I was kind of disappointed with how things ended after all was said and done. I really was not expecting the final mission to go down quite the way it did, it just started referencing other things going on in the world over the radio while you're working you're way through the battle. Spoilers below regarding end-game:
For example, I decided to kill House, install the Yes-Man and then make the super army of robots to help me take over Vegas. But at the same time, I also was loyal to the Legion (But not to Caesar! I murdered Caesar after he caused Veronica to leave me, but that was just personal. The goals of the Legion were still important to me) and my grand vision was a great force of robots, Legionaries, Khans and Boomers to conquer the world. But then I'm fighting my way across the dam and I just get reports over the radio of "Oh, the robots took over Vegas, the Fiends attacked McCarran, and the Great Khans are fighting these other people over here". Meanwhile to myself I'm just thinking "Well fuck me, I reprogrammed those robots so I could storm over Vegas and crush all opposition myself! I don't want this game to end at the bloody dam."
I didn't get to go and exterminate the NCR from the wasteland with my robot minions the way I had planned for, and that sort of disappointed me. Out of curiousity, if you side with Yes Man (or House I suppose) 100% and don't do the NCR or Legion missions all the way through, do you still have to fight at the dam? Or do you get to conquer Vegas with your robot army? Because that would be totally awesome.
I didn't get to go and exterminate the NCR from the wasteland with my robot minions the way I had planned for, and that sort of disappointed me. Out of curiousity, if you side with Yes Man (or House I suppose) 100% and don't do the NCR or Legion missions all the way through, do you still have to fight at the dam? Or do you get to conquer Vegas with your robot army? Because that would be totally awesome.
natureboy46
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Zozobra said:
37 hours in on the ps3 version and it has frozen on me twice. Once before the patch and once after.