Bluekaveli
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February Wrasslin' |OT| Observe THIS, Brother!
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BewareTheBatsie
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Miz going 2-0 baby!
A feud lasting 4 months isn't bad. It's only really bad because feuds involve them facing each other every week for 4 months.
my alternative to the brand split is, admittedly, impossible.
-- Raw returns to 2 hours
-- Smackdown returns to 1 hour
-- Trim down the roster
-- US Title exclusive to Raw
-- Intercontinental Title exclusive to Smackdown
-- Cut down on the number of PPVs slightly
WWE's problem is that there is too much of their product out there right now.
Bluekaveli
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They just don't know how to book feuds to last that long anymore.
See, the brand split has given people like Naomi, Alexa, Nattie and even Carmella a chance they wouldn't have gotten before, yeah they could have given them that chance before but that was not going to happen because there was not enough time for everyone, Smackdown was a fucking televised house show before the brand split, now it's a show with it's own writing team which translates into opportunities for these women.
I'm sure if you asked people like Naomi, Nattie and even Becky if they are happy with the brand split they'd all say yes without a doubt, especially Naomi who has always been very vocal about the lack of opportunities and such on social media
Say whatever you want about your fantasy booked coulds and shoulds but it is a fact Smackdown has benefitted the division.
All the things that would have fixed booking and made shows like Smackdown better with out the brand split, are all the things that WWE never does on their own with out being forced to. Their deeply entrenched stubbornness is why someone at the company felt a massive shake up was the only option.
BewareTheBatsie
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I can safely assume about 90% of Smackdown's women's division would have absolutely nothing to do if the women were all on the one brand.
RAW has untalented writers and it shows. Smackdown got lucky and got the writer from NXT during it's high point.
No shit. Impressively RAW still manages to be worse.
Yep, this.
Vince and company were probably way too stubborn to admit that there was a problem with the product at a core level, so someone basically disguised a big creative shake up with the words "brand split" so that it felt like less of a direct attack on Vince and the team.
Rockandrollclown
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Well yeah. Nothing inherently wrong, but a 4 month wwe feud feels like a 5 year long feud with any other promotion because WWE has to go overkill on everything. They can't ever hold anything back for a bigger payoff down the line.
TarpitCarnivore
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They could have had a chance before but the issue is rather than fill time with matches and story, WWE writes in 5 minute long intros and 20 minute long promos. There is SO much filler that could have been used better via matches.
People like Carmella and Alexa would have been called up and used mid-card style versus forced main stories. The whole thing with Ellsworth is just AWFUL and part of the reason that's going is because the WWE is incapable of making people work through the roster.
They want every person to come up and immediately jump into some PPV worthy story.
BewareTheBatsie
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It looks like Rollins' twisting combined with Joe bringing him down for the choke made him land awkwardly on his knee.
Joe didn't do shit. Seth twisted his knee going down taking a rear naked chokehold from Joe. Seth turned the wrong way if you watch it.
Yes but they didn't do it and would never do it, as Mahonay said they needed the brand split to force their hand
Bluekaveli
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They need more guys who experience long drawn out feuds to write this stuff. Like why not have opponents pick their poison again? Why not have beat downs that inhibits the challenger to fight so they get someone else in their spots?
People like Naomi, Alexa, Nattie and even Carmella could have gotten plenty of exposure even with one unified roster if the creative team was smart enough to realize that not every single show every single night needs to be about the top-of-the-card wrestlers. NXT, even during its prime, didn't have Neville, Breeze, Zayn, or Enzo/Cass on the show every single week. They gave the midcard some space to have their own matches and stories and the result was that NXT as a whole was better off.
The brand split was more or less a band-aid for the real issue.
The brand split was more or less a band-aid for the real issue.
At least Smackdown realizes this and highlights all championships in main event matches occasionally.
Except people like Punk and Owens will tell you Joe is the most delicate guy to work with in the indies.
3. Big E singles push WHEN
Heh, and that's because Smackdown uses a bunch of the old NXT writers isn't it?
And if you watched any of Joe's NXT work he is not very stiff or rough in the ring. He's got the WWE style down pretty well.
Look at the way Joe dropped. It definitely had an impact on the result.
BewareTheBatsie
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I really wanted Big E to turn on The New Day at the Rumble. It was the perfect time.
BRING BACK THE 5 COUNT
When he turns white?
TarpitCarnivore
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^^^^^^ Seph gets it
What's goign to make this all worse is NXT has a bunch of guys who could be on the main roster (Nak, Asuka, DIY, Revival, Roode, Aries, Almas, Hero) and it's just going to muddle up shit even more when they get brought up. Nevermind the core of guys from CWC/205 who could absolutely pad out an hour of TV ala Nitro.
I hate to say it but WWE literally needs to crash and burn to build itself back up. There is just far too much content they're going for.
Bluekaveli
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This. I've always said, if Charlotte wasn't a Flair, she'd still be kicking rocks in developmental hell. Hell she would probably just be doing gymnastics still.
blackaroni
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Hopefully never.
The Tyson Kidd injury was a legitimate freak accident and there should be no blame there in general.
The Seth Rollins injury is mostly on Rollins. Joe was pretty clearly waiting for Seth to turn his back to Joe completely so that Joe could safely go for the takedown portion of the clutch, and if you look at the gif you'll notice that Joe goes for the takedown the moment Seth's back is turned completely. The problem is that Seth kept turning after Joe had committed to the takedown. The fault there is on Rollins.
The Seth Rollins injury is mostly on Rollins. Joe was pretty clearly waiting for Seth to turn his back to Joe completely so that Joe could safely go for the takedown portion of the clutch, and if you look at the gif you'll notice that Joe goes for the takedown the moment Seth's back is turned completely. The problem is that Seth kept turning after Joe had committed to the takedown. The fault there is on Rollins.
He always drops back when he does that doesn't he? I guess he should have adjusted to Seth not coming back with him. Miscommunication happened, that is obvious. Both fucked up probably.
How can Big E get a singles push when the New Day are raking in all that
Cos Big E has the potential to be a damn face of the company my man.
I'd be interested to see how Big E would deal with a heel character after his New Day run.
BewareTheBatsie
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I agree friend, but I can't see it happening anytime soon when the New Day are one of the biggest money makers for the company.
But she's the best female performer in the whole company and I say that as a Becky stan. Don't hate on the talent bud
He prob didn't expect unsafe Seth to start twisting around in every direction
Other than Cena.
Is their merch still selling like hotcakes? I know The New Day is stale to most of us here, but I have don't really have a good sense of what their appeal is like currently to the average audience.
If he dropped less vertically (if that makes sense), there wouldn't be so much weight on the bad positioned knee. They were both just selling the move, accidents happen. I don't think any of them should be blamed for it.
WRONG
No shit her dad being Ric Flair made a difference. Doesn't change the fact she is insanely talented.