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[jj984jj]

FFXII will be awesomeness beyond that of FFX and likely FFXIII. After all, it is a Matsuno game.

IMHO, the people who say they had more fun with FFX then they did with FFT or VS are pretty sad.

 

[DSN2K]

damnit where is the new Trailer ? >_<

 

[Error]

I can always record a rip of FFX's "laughter" scene for you and put it on repeat.

but that was just one scene. SO2 the whole fucking game had atrocious VA.

 

[speedpop]

Tidus' voice actor destroyed any morality VA had in my eyes! I will not be swayed by Pit!

 

[DarknessTear]

Uh Tidus' VA is amazing. He had some bad parts mainly because of the shitty things he was being forced to say.

 

[Red Scarlet]

It's a quote truth-fuck, man!

Oh, and I'm curious...for those of you who had the distinct pleasure of playing the import, which Final Fantasies do you feel are superior to 12? Or is Nostalgia being a bitch again?

I'd prefer 1,2,4,5,9,10 probably to 12 if I had to choose one to pick up and play a year from now without playing any of them until then.

 

[DarknessTear]

Am I the only one who thinks FF4 is the most boring one evar?

 

[Red Scarlet]

Probably not.

 

[AniHawk]

Am I the only one who thinks FF4 is the most boring one evar?

*waves arms around wildly*

Well, that and VII.

 

[Red Scarlet]

Not as boring as OoT!

<3

 

[poppin fresh]

FFXII, the best final fantasy I haven't played.

 

[Error]

Am I the only one who thinks FF4 is the most boring one evar?

MUCH better than Wild Arms

*rimshot*

 

[DarknessTear]

MUCH better than Wild Arms

*rimshot*

I could play Wild Arms longer than an hour though.

 

[jj984jj]

I could play Wild Arms longer than an hour though.

I couldn't play part 3 or 4 for more then that.

 

[Error]

I could play Wild Arms longer than an hour though.

if you mean the WA ost. yeah me to

 

[ethelred]

I couldn't play part 3 or 4 for more then that.

Oh, god, 3 was so awful. I wanted to shoot Virginia every time she opened her damned mouth.

"Wings! I'll fly around the desert on my wings! Spreading glitterdust of hope and courage because I am a drifterrrrr!"

 

[DarknessTear]

Yeah well I'm talking about the first one.

 

[jj984jj]

Yeah well I'm talking about the first one.

Well that isn't fair since FFIV isn't the first FF is it?

 

[DarknessTear]

Well that isn't fair since FFIV isn't the first FF is it?

I wasn't the one who made the comparison! :lol

 

[Error]

Well that isn't fair since FFIV isn't the first FF is it?

not fair? both are RPG seems fair enough for me.

 

[jj984jj]

not fair? both are RPG seems fair enough for me.

Wild arms is better then FFIV though. My point was FF is a series that had over 12 entires and the games are still above average quality, that more then I could say for more other seires. Wild Arms started going bad at 3, but FF made it to IV and beyond and still came across with a quality game.

 

[Red Scarlet]

Wild arms is better then FFIV though.

!

 

[Magicpaint]

There are haters of FFIV? Screw you lot!

That said, I can't wait for FFXII, looks far better than Final Fantasy XIII to me.

 

[Teasel]

is there a gaming forum on the internet where i can't hear any bitching on this or that final fantasy?

 

[Red Scarlet]

Try an Atari2600/Colecovision/Intellivision/Commodore64 etc-era forum. Anything from the NES years onward probably would have random bitching about FF.

 

[Teasel]

Try an Atari2600/Colecovision/Intellivision/Commodore64 etc-era forum. Anything from the NES years onward probably would have random bitching about FF.

nah... i think i'm staying here... but i have to save the thread... with
DANCING NINJA!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cF5NletBOvg&search=pitagora suiichi

 

[Error]

is there a gaming forum on the internet where i can't hear any bitching on this or that final fantasy?

http://www.gamefaqs.com

 

[Red Scarlet]

http://www.gamefaqs.com

 

[MoxManiac]

Wild Arms is trash

YEAH THAT'S RIGHT SHOUTA I WENT THERE

 

[Diablos]

if you say something mean about FFXII (the best FF ever) I won't read it

:lol

 

[ssoass]

FFXII will rock... from all the info and videos I've seen, it looks like it will potentially have the best gameplay in an FF ever.
One thing's for sure... the music will be amazing... I've been listening to the PSF2s and I think this is musically the best FF since FF8, edging out FF9 by a bit. (wouldn't expect anything less from the FFT/Vagrant Story/Radiant Silvergun composer)
And as long as the voice acting is on par with DQ8, I'm happy...

 

[jj984jj]

!

Well I think it is, except for the OST it is a better game overall. Though FFVI beats the shit out of it.

 

[Pellham]

I got a large post on the entire game on my HD that needs to be proofread and this is most definitely a sizable chunk of that =P. The gist is this though: License board is poorly laid out, characters are all essentially the same (with a few stat differences), you can purchase all the skills on the board and then are free to use them at any given time after purchasing them(well, there is a bit of a penalty but I'll get into in the post).

Sounds like a Kitase FF.

In either case, flaws or not, this game can't possibly be worse than FF6-FF11.

 

[dark10x]

Hmm, interesting to hear all those negative comments...

I'm probably only around halfway through the game still (haven't had the time to devote and it generally takes me months to get through lengthy RPGs anyways), but I was planning on picking it back up on vacation next week. Should I expect disappointment with what's to come? I still really like it as of now. The story is still very enjoyable and the gameplay is a lot of fun.

 

[JayDubya]

FFVI will always be the best FF

Lies! IV is superior!

VI was close to being the best, but the World of Ruin went all Morrowind suddenly. Since almost all the characters were optional to collect and some were possibly dead at that point, there was very, very little meaningful character development / character-specific dialogue from that point on. I enjoyed it, but not nearly as much as I had enjoyed the World of Balance.

 

[Diablos]

Anyways, what have you guys done to my thread? This is about the localization job.

Isn't this kind of thing expected for FF discussion now -_-

 

[Mistwalker]

I will play the game one more time when the English verison comes out, but I fear for the voice quality. The OP mentions it wasn't bad but delivered in a monotone, which is bad, isn't it? Just don't destroy Balflear, and I might be able to forgive the other characters...

 

[Diablos]

SPOILERS AHEAD, my take on FFXII

THEN USE A SPOILER TAG WHERE THERE ARE SPOILERS.

 

[Error]

Well I think it is, except for the OST it is a better game overall. Though FFVI beats the shit out of it.

what? if there is one thing where WA beats FFIV is the soundtrack man. WA ost fucking rox.

 

[BudokaiMR2]

The real good news of the localization though is that Alexander O. Smith has gone balls-out Vagrant Story with the translation. So expect some very flowery (in the good way) psuedo old-English dialogue with more than a few Shakespearean double-entendres.

Hell yea, that guy is supposedly the god of localizations.

He is the one who did the Phoenix Wright localization for DS if I remember correctly.

Awesome...Wait...wait...

Shit I am buying this one in Japanese.... Oh well maybe I will get both copies.

 

[Magicpaint]

Lies! IV is superior!

VI was close to being the best, but the World of Ruin went all Morrowind suddenly. Since almost all the characters were optional to collect and some were possibly dead at that point, there was very, very little meaningful character development / character-specific dialogue from that point on. I enjoyed it, but not nearly as much as I had enjoyed the World of Balance.

I enjoyed the World of Ruin more than the World of Balance. I disagree, there was plenty of meaningful character development in the world of ruin. Cyan especially got a good chunk of it, and I loved how it was much more personal than it ever was in World of Balance.
It's FFIV that doesn't really have any meaningful character development besides Cecil and Kain.

 

[Mistwalker]

THEN USE A SPOILER TAG WHERE THERE ARE SPOILERS.

Yeah, I know...but I figured depending on people's opinions, any number of things I mentioned could be considered a spoiler...didn't feel like tagging 80% of a big post, my apologies for laziness.

 

[JayDubya]

Why is this always a problem with people?

Because it's important for characters to stand out with unique abilities. My favorite style of FF is one with set classes and class-defined abilities. If I had to rank them in this sort of way, it would have to be...

1, 4, 9 (Set Character Classes) > 6 (Set Character Classes, but all can learn magic) > FF2 (all characters get good at what they use most) > 10 (Sphere grid leads to at least SOME variance in the beginning before twinking the characters to high hell) > 3, 5 (Job System) > 7, 8 (Generic everyone can learn everyone else's abilities and swap Materia / GF at will).

Right now, I have no idea where the heck the Gambit / License system of FF12 falls within that. I'm assuming close to FFX's Sphere Grid. I'm also thinking that will probably mean early on you'll customize them to certain roles based on your choices, but eventually they'll all be exactly the same once you've done all the game content.

I enjoyed the World of Ruin more than the World of Balance. I disagree, there was plenty of meaningful character development in the world of ruin. Cyan especially got a good chunk of it, and I loved how it was much more personal than it ever was in World of Balance.
It's FFIV that doesn't really have any meaningful character development besides Cecial and Kain.

Ironically, Cyan's my favorite character in that one, too! I think the gameplay was better / more interesting when you got to Ruin, but the plot was better in Balance, and for me, plot trumps gameplay.

I mean, the momentum is totally out of whack. If you just charge Kekfa's tower with Celes, Edgar, Setzer, and Sabin, you'll pretty much die horribly, but at least you still have some semblance of plot momentum. Spend dozens upon dozens of hours doing all the side-quests and getting all the characters and then it's like...
"Hrm... what were we doing again?"
"I remember something about a demented clown... hrrrm."
"Screw it, let's go kill some more dinosaurs!"

 

[Diablos]

Yeah, I know...but I figured depending on people's opinions, any number of things I mentioned could be considered a spoiler...didn't feel like tagging 80% of a big post, my apologies for laziness.

I thought I glanced over something pretty big... do you have any massive story spoilers in there? Wrap a tag around it, jesus.

 

[Mistwalker]

Shit like that is what makes FF for me. That hidden shit you didn't know was there, and when you talk to your friends about it they're like,"OH I FOUND THIS, OR THAT!" and it's just fun. I like reward when doing sidequests. Reward through exploration. Seems like DQVIII, Final Fantasy X-2, and Suikoden V will be the only rpgs I truly get that does that this gen. =/

Well, exploration is still HUGE in this game, trust me. The areas are massive and you will constantly be stumbling upon new areas, passages, the occasional rare monster, etc.

There just aren't really any "quests" attached to them, unless you count the bounty hunts.

 

[Magicpaint]

I prefer to be forced to think strategically with set character classes than to be given the possibility to make every character the same. I think it cheapens the experience.

 

[Tyrone Slothrop]

I wish FFXII would get the same kind of love and respect as VII, but that's not happening. :lol

yeah. this one just doesn't have the commercial appeal that some of the latest ones had

its going to be a shame

 

[gamergirly]

Damn, I knew the spoilers were going to get in here somewhere. Another thread to avoid until Ive finished the game......

 

[Error]

spoilers?

who the fuck?

 

[Diablos]

No answer to my question, so I'm assuming Mistwalker put one big massive spoiler at the end of his post where I thought I saw it.

How could you NOT know to spoiler tag that?