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Kagari said:Maybe they should! Then they would know that Toriyama is indeed a terrible writer, and that's not going to change for XIII-2.
One of these days, comrades...things will be different.
Kagari said:Maybe they should! Then they would know that Toriyama is indeed a terrible writer, and that's not going to change for XIII-2.
I think you whack son, a bunch of them have good stories.TruePrime said:Hmm well I disagree overall, but that is why I probably am just as cool with XIII and possibly XIII-2 given I love the battle system.
Then why post it when that is exactly what you are doing?-Pyromaniac- said:I think you whack son, a bunch of them have good stories.
FF6, FF7, FFT just off the top of my head as the obvious ones. Especially FFT. But yeah I won't get into it, as Kagari said, don't want to derail.
TruePrime said:Well I don't really expect a good or even decent story. I do expect to have a character or two that I like.
I haven't found a single FF story to be good, so I don't see why I would hold it any more against XIII then I did it any of the rest of the games.
yeah I agree. I would never boycott a game because a writer I don't like so much is doing it, but I will be super excited and clamour for a title if a good writer is involved, like Matsuno.Electivirus said:To be perfectly honest, I'm somewhat surprised that so many people put so much stock into these stories in the first place, to the point of not playing them if a certain writer is on board. Kinda baffles me, but to each his own.
-Pyromaniac- said:yeah I agree. I would never boycott a game because a writer I don't like so much is doing it, but I will be super excited and clamour for a title if a good writer is involved, like Matsuno.
Speaking of Matsuno it's a shame he left S-E but thankfully landed at Level-5 and not some other dead end.
what you say is confusing I say is intricate/complex/deepElectivirus said:I generally enjoy Matsuno stories, but that's mainly because of the well-written dialogue (gotta love those O. Smith localizations) and less because of the plots, which I find somewhat confusing.
AuthenticM said:Have they said anything regarding the number of people in your party? So far we've only seen two plus one monster.
Kagari said:Noel, Serah + a monster, and sometimes a guest character. And then sections where you play as Lightning.
Dunan said:I'm really confused now.
Wait... really? That's confirmed for the entire game, not only the beginning?Kagari said:Noel, Serah + a monster, and sometimes a guest character. And then sections where you play as Lightning.
Dude, SPOILERS!Famassu said:What's so confusing? There's some apocalypse shit going on in the future and in a somewhat Terminator-like storyline Noel goes back in time to try to prevent that. Apparently this ties to something that has happened in Serah's time, and probably also to what Lightning is currently doing/the reason why she is not a part of the world Serah & the rest are living in.
I don't think it's that unreasonable in a game as cinematic and story-centric as FF (especially XIII). I don't think anyone is asking for master class stuff here, either. Just an enjoyable fantastical tale without too many offensive tropes.Electivirus said:To be perfectly honest, I'm somewhat surprised that so many people put so much stock into these stories in the first place, to the point of not playing them if a certain writer is on board. Kinda baffles me, but to each his own.
Dengeki also has a new report on Final Fantasy XIII this week. The magazine shows a new illustration and also details the game's prologue.
On the gameplay side of things, the magazine introduces the "Historiacross" feature. You use this to transfer between areas of the world, and as a means of time travel. You'll recall that main character Noel was revealed in Jump last week to be a time traveler, so this system presumably has something to do with this.
We'll hopefully have additional details later in the day once more reliable sources get the magazine.
Given how lite the Lesbian themes are even in those scenes I don't see an issue with them. Now if you said scenes with Vanille I could understand but the scenes between her and Fang and the may/may not implied Lesbianism between the two seems an odd thing to complain about.Megidolaon said:I don't think it's that unreasonable in a game as cinematic and story-centric as FF (especially XIII). I don't think anyone is asking for master class stuff here, either. Just an enjoyable fantastical tale without too many offensive tropes.
I don't even hate XIII, so I'm not trying to be part of the hate force. I actually think it had a good concept and I like the FNC mythology. Just too many hamfisted moments they focused on. I think if you got rid of Serah from the story, that would be a big step in the right direction. We wouldn't have to listen to Snow shout "SERAH!!!" a million times or blabber on so much about protecting her and being "the HERO"
Lightning wouldn't have such a cheesy backstory.God that is so corny."I changed my name to Lightning in order to be strong for my little sister after our parents died."
And those Vanille/Fang lesbian moments. Eugh.
I hate to be so negative, but yeah. :/
miladesn said:http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2011/09/06/dengeki_news_bits/
so I think my theory was right, Bresha Ruins is 2 years into future. (2+3 -> 5 years after).........
What the heck? They were subtle as hell. I wanted MORE of that.Megidolaon said:And those Vanille/Fang lesbian moments. Eugh.
Sounds disasteriffic.miladesn said:http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2011/09/06/dengeki_news_bits/
so I think my theory was right, Bresha Ruins is 2 years into future. (2+3 -> 5 years after).........
Yoshichan said:What the heck? They were subtle as hell. I wanted MORE of that.
I think I can kind of understand were you are coming from if they had played it up but they didn't.Megidolaon said:The lesbian stuff just seemed too fanservice-y, I dunno. Seemed like the female equivalent of the yaoi fangirl stuff, which I also dislike. But whatevs. That's probably just me.
Bah, anyways. Histori-across, huh? LOL! I wonder if the time travel concept was conceived to help them cut down on new HD! locations. They can just reuse past locations multiple times for different time periods! I kid, I kid
At least this probably means you'll have more freedom in where you go and can travel back to previous areas, unlike XIII.
Oh, don't get me wrong, I really don't like most FF straight romances either. It's not the fact that they're chicks, and I know there was no real showing of anything. Just seemed kinda mushy is all. Even more so with Snow/Serah. Eugh. Squall/Rinoa? Bleck. Zidane/Garnet? Ick. those were "fanservice-y" also imo, in a way. FF romance in general is just too mushy. Only FF couples I liked were Balthier/Fran in FFXII and Cloud/Tifa in FFVII.TruePrime said:I think I can kind of understand were you are coming from if they had played it up but they didn't.
They didn't kiss, they didn't touch each other in any real sort of romantic way, as it stands they aren't even canon lesbians (as far as I know) and it's just fan specualtion because of how close they are.
I just don't see how this can be to much, i mean if this is the limit then we won't ever get full on Gay/Lesbian relationships and to me that is really lame. As it stands we have tons and tons of hetero sexual romances in jrps and I really dislike the notion that Gay/Lesbian romances shouldn't be done simply because they could be labled as fan service were Hetero isn't.
I have been pushing for more gay romances on both sides for a while now, so long as it isn't fucking Makoto or whatever his name was from Enchanted Arms, I much rather see that then all the played out stero type Hero/heroine romances we keep getting.
I don't know, I just really can't sit well with the fact that a Lesbain/Gay romance is fan service when they don't do anything to the point it's all fan speculation.
Eh i like cute and mushy and happily ever afters.Megidolaon said:Oh, don't get me wrong, I really don't like most FF straight romances either. It's not the fact that they're chicks, and I know there was no real showing of anything. Just seemed kinda mushy is all. Even more so with Snow/Serah. Eugh. Squall/Rinoa? Bleck. Zidane/Garnet? Ick. those were "fanservice-y" also imo, in a way. FF romance in general is just too mushy. Only FF couples I liked were Balthier/Fran in FFXII and Cloud/Tifa in FFVII.
If a gay/les couple was written into a game that was done well and not mushy, I would be ok. Likein Persona 4.Kanji
miladesn said:http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2011/09/06/dengeki_news_bits/
so I think my theory was right, Bresha Ruins is 2 years into future. (2+3 -> 5 years after).........
Yeah, I don't want romance to go away per se.TruePrime said:Eh i like cute and mushy and happily ever afters.
Thing is I don't really see Vanille and Fang as such given tons of people, even part of which who liked XIII, even view Vanille as Lesbian but try to put her with hope or some shit. Not only that but I don't even like Vanille.
So I respect your opinion and everything but I do hope they continue to have their romances for better or worse, I don't want straight romances to go away and I want to see more Gay/Lesbian relationship as we move forward.
I like Rinoa and Yuna because they very much have the potentail to be far stronger then their male counter parts, but the rest I agree with.Megidolaon said:Yeah, I don't want romance to go away per se.
Just lay it on a little less thick. With FF it usually is guy meets girl. Girl needs to be rescued or protected. Boy protects/rescues girl. They fall in love. Eh, it's too predicable and cliche.
Most of the FF heroines are really damsely/princess-y. Rosa, Aerith, Rinoa, Garnet, Yuna, Serah. They all are kinda lame to varying degrees.
Perfo said:I think they're really doing what I've hope, a system in which you can travel the same world at different times seeing the changes, A Link to the Past all over again! or perhaps it's something more close to Chrono trigger. HYPED!
weeaboo said:http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2011/09/06/ffxiii_2_time_travel_system/
I love time travel plots but wtf is this, Radiant Historia? My mind is full of fuck
weeaboo said:http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2011/09/06/ffxiii_2_time_travel_system/
I love time travel plots but wtf is this, Radiant Historia? My mind is full of fuck
HooYaH said:Watch out about those D-Mails.
Aaaaah, I was afraid of this since I heard there would be a monster system... Is it really true? If so, I'm a very sad panda.Kagari said:Noel, Serah + a monster, and sometimes a guest character. And then sections where you play as Lightning.
Well they said they had so little time so they did very little or no preproduction at all this time! So you can't even do that lolShadow780 said:I'd time travel to the pre-production phase and smack the writers.
Rarutos said:Aaaaah, I was afraid of this since I heard there would be a monster system... Is it really true? If so, I'm a very sad panda.
Droplet said:That would be cool if done right. I have to wonder though, does this mean we'll also be seeing other characters at different points in time too? Like we see Hope in the trailer, are we seeing him at 17 (probably) or 19, 5 years in the future? Would they be creating different designs for those? What about Serah, she's probably traveling to times she still exists in, right? Would she be able to meet herself?
Aaaaaand I'm done. I have difficulties with time travel plots.
It's reasonably likely that by the very end of the game it'll be Noel + Serah + Lightning + a monster or something like that.Rarutos said:Aaaaah, I was afraid of this since I heard there would be a monster system... Is it really true? If so, I'm a very sad panda.