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FINAL FANTASY XIII-2 |OT| Change the Future

You can use any PS3 save file by copying it and it will recognize it. I tested this :eek: It also recognized my US save despite it being the Japanese version of XIII-2... Any partial save file will work, actually. So yes... in effect you can play to the first save point in XIII and use that.

As far as bonuses, so far I've gotten the XMB theme but you also get an item that gives you more luck in the casino and accessory items for your monster allies. I haven't seen anything else yet.
Thanks Kagari!
 

Toth

Member
Datalog screenshot confirms this (sort of).

Don't be so ardently quick to defend the game though, not until all details are out.


Just wait for lower price, since prices drop quick nowadays.

Where did you see that screenshot if I may ask.
 

Dark Schala

Eloquent Princess
Person buys FFXIII-2. Won't leave home for a week

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http://kotaku.com/5868720/person-buys-new-final-fantasy-wont-leave-home-for-a-week
Ugh. The calories...

Am I the only one getting the NA CE? :)
I'm just buying it for the OST. It's cheaper this way.
 

Kagari

Crystal Bearer
Okay. I played 4 hours and 30 minutes so far. Got past where I was when I got to play the game back in October...

So far it's better than XIII. It's what that game should have been to begin with. My only gripes are that graphically it seems slightly worse... Lightning's model and a lot of the NPC models are fairly poor. I imagine they were able to dedicate more polygons to Serah due to her lack of clothing.

At least the CG is an clean as ever.

The story so far seems all over the place, but I'm not expecting anything great at the point. I just met Hope and
was disappointed he never joined your party as a guest character :<

Being able to go back to areas is great. You can "reverse time" and redo missions if you want as well. Quests are a nice addition, although so far they've been a bit same-ish (ie, go kill monster X or go find item Y, etc)

Taking a break for now, but yeah.
 

tokkun

Member
Since we know the actual ending (didn't see it) is the story better or still Toriyama terribad?

How you finding the game, Kagari?

From the reviews on Amazon.jp it seems that many Japanese players don't think much of the scenario writing. It seems to be the most common complaint so far along with repetitive quests.
 

Toth

Member
Okay. I played 4 hours and 30 minutes so far. Got past where I was when I got to play the game back in October...

So far it's better than XIII. It's what that game should have been to begin with. My only gripes are that graphically it seems slightly worse... Lightning's model and a lot of the NPC models are fairly poor. I imagine they were able to dedicate more polygons to Serah due to her lack of clothing.

At least the CG is an clean as ever.

The story so far seems all over the place, but I'm not expecting anything great at the point. I just met Hope and
was disappointed he never joined your party as a guest character :<

Being able to go back to areas is great. You can "reverse time" and redo missions if you want as well. Quests are a nice addition, although so far they've been a bit same-ish (ie, go kill monster X or go find item Y, etc)

Taking a break for now, but yeah.

Can you do time reversals from the start or do you need to beat the game first?
 

Dark Schala

Eloquent Princess
Okay. I played 4 hours and 30 minutes so far. Got past where I was when I got to play the game back in October...

So far it's better than XIII. It's what that game should have been to begin with. My only gripes are that graphically it seems slightly worse... Lightning's model and a lot of the NPC models are fairly poor. I imagine they were able to dedicate more polygons to Serah due to her lack of clothing.
There was a bit of NPC dialogue in the streams, and what I noticed--at least for the ones who give you quests--whenever they move their mouths while reciting dialogue, it looks strange. The mouth movement, in comparison to FFXIII to me, is a little odd. Did that come across to you while playing it on an actual TV?

Yeah, the writing is all over the place. Heh.
 

Kagari

Crystal Bearer
Can you do time reversals from the start or do you need to beat the game first?

When you clear each area it allows you to redo it.

And yeah, the mouth movement is really... flappy? I don't know, it's definitely off, even on the main characters at times.
 
How can this be any different? The plot is written by the worst scenario writer S-E ever had.
I just hope it's not bad to the point I have to shut it off. I need at least some context or purpose for the characters to keep playing. I can't believe such a terrible writer is in charge of the story on a premier franchise.
 
Okay. I played 4 hours and 30 minutes so far. Got past where I was when I got to play the game back in October...

So far it's better than XIII. It's what that game should have been to begin with. My only gripes are that graphically it seems slightly worse... Lightning's model and a lot of the NPC models are fairly poor. I imagine they were able to dedicate more polygons to Serah due to her lack of clothing.

At least the CG is an clean as ever.

The story so far seems all over the place, but I'm not expecting anything great at the point. I just met Hope and
was disappointed he never joined your party as a guest character :<

Being able to go back to areas is great. You can "reverse time" and redo missions if you want as well. Quests are a nice addition, although so far they've been a bit same-ish (ie, go kill monster X or go find item Y, etc)

Taking a break for now, but yeah.
sounds good. I'm not expecting much for this story. The FF13 world has lost the ability to tell a good story a while ago considering the weak foundation it started on, besides having potentially interesting lore (that wasn't capitalized on). Ah well

Sounds good though.
 
Is this the first time Toriyama's tried his hand at time travel? I mean, if there's any way for a bad writer to get worse, that's the way to go.

Nope, he did this before:

Oh no. He proved he couldn't handle it in The Third Birthday.

3rd Birthday is a great game, but that was the first time in 20 years of gaming when the scenario made NO FUCKING SENSE for me, not only jRPG sense. I really think he wrote it during a weekend.


I can't believe such a terrible writer is in charge of the story on a premier franchise.

Sucking dick can get you a long way in any company, not only S-E.
 
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Deleted member 20920

Unconfirmed Member
Is this the first time Toriyama's tried his hand at time travel? I mean, if there's any way for a bad writer to get worse, that's the way to go.

The 3rd Birthday says hi. That game (the story) will drag you into the abyss.

Late
 

MechaX

Member
I ended up getting spoiled on the ending elsewhere.

... Yeah, I can definitely see why so many people are absolutely pissed about it. Jesus Christ, Toriyama.
 

Perfo

Thirteen flew over the cuckoo's nest
kagari said:
Being able to go back to areas is great. You can "reverse time" and redo missions if you want as well.

I guess by doing so you can "live trigger" in a different way by choosing different options for the story when there is an important decision to make. If so then, which of my multiple decisions will be considered as final and be selected by the game as the course of my real story? (I hope you can understand wtf I'm asking lol ~)
 

FreeMufasa

Junior Member
Okay. I played 4 hours and 30 minutes so far. Got past where I was when I got to play the game back in October...

So far it's better than XIII. It's what that game should have been to begin with. My only gripes are that graphically it seems slightly worse... Lightning's model and a lot of the NPC models are fairly poor. I imagine they were able to dedicate more polygons to Serah due to her lack of clothing.

At least the CG is an clean as ever.

The story so far seems all over the place, but I'm not expecting anything great at the point. I just met Hope and
was disappointed he never joined your party as a guest character :<

Being able to go back to areas is great. You can "reverse time" and redo missions if you want as well. Quests are a nice addition, although so far they've been a bit same-ish (ie, go kill monster X or go find item Y, etc)

Taking a break for now, but yeah.

Yeah I always thought the graphics seemed worse than FFXIII. But I guess it's a fair trade off with all we got.
 

PK Gaming

Member
Okay. I played 4 hours and 30 minutes so far. Got past where I was when I got to play the game back in October...

So far it's better than XIII. It's what that game should have been to begin with. My only gripes are that graphically it seems slightly worse... Lightning's model and a lot of the NPC models are fairly poor. I imagine they were able to dedicate more polygons to Serah due to her lack of clothing.

At least the CG is an clean as ever.

The story so far seems all over the place, but I'm not expecting anything great at the point. I just met Hope and
was disappointed he never joined your party as a guest character :<

Being able to go back to areas is great. You can "reverse time" and redo missions if you want as well. Quests are a nice addition, although so far they've been a bit same-ish (ie, go kill monster X or go find item Y, etc)

Taking a break for now, but yeah.

What are the paradigm setups for your characters? Is leveling up Noel in RAV identical to Serah or do they have different set of skills and bonuses? How many monsters do you have?
 

luca1980

Banned
I ended up getting spoiled on the ending elsewhere.

... Yeah, I can definitely see why so many people are absolutely pissed about it. Jesus Christ, Toriyama.

Toryiama is not matsuno. Anyone playing ff 13-2 should be really aware of it and know the quality (Low) of the plot
 

RaijinFY

Member
Okay. I played 4 hours and 30 minutes so far. Got past where I was when I got to play the game back in October...

So far it's better than XIII. It's what that game should have been to begin with. My only gripes are that graphically it seems slightly worse... Lightning's model and a lot of the NPC models are fairly poor. I imagine they were able to dedicate more polygons to Serah due to her lack of clothing.

At least the CG is an clean as ever.

The story so far seems all over the place, but I'm not expecting anything great at the point. I just met Hope and
was disappointed he never joined your party as a guest character :<

Being able to go back to areas is great. You can "reverse time" and redo missions if you want as well. Quests are a nice addition, although so far they've been a bit same-ish (ie, go kill monster X or go find item Y, etc)

Taking a break for now, but yeah.

I hope this is something we wont see next-gen. The lack of consistency in NPC polycount is disturbing to say the least.
 

Kagari

Crystal Bearer
What are the paradigm setups for your characters? Is leveling up Noel in RAV identical to Serah or do they have different set of skills and bonuses? How many monsters do you have?

Noel is an Attacker and Defender mainly, while I have Serah as Attacker/Blaster, and sometimes Jammer.

For the monsters I keep a Defender, Enhancer, and Healer in the party at all times. Each monster has a pre-defined role. For example. Cait Cith is a Healer.
 
And Matsuno isn't really that great anyway so I dunno why people are expecting quality in the series.
I think he is pretty great. FFT is some next level shit, and Vagrant Story is the tops. Those 2 alone are enough to be considered great. And although Toriyama sucks, we've gotten some good shit in the past so it's not unreasonable to expect a good plot. No one is talking triple A quality, but something enjoyable.
 
Kagari said:
So far it's better than XIII. It's what that game should have been to begin with.
Don&#8217;t lie to me Kagari, I&#8217;m putting my trust in you. :I
-Pyromaniac- said:
FFT is some next level shit.
I love Matsuno and Tactics' story, but &#8220;next level shit&#8221;? Really?

Is this what I sound like on Matsuno threads? D:
 

Dark Schala

Eloquent Princess
Oh, that's something that I wasn't really paying attention to on the streams because I wanted it to surprise me, but...

As soon as you expand the Crystarium the first time, do you have the opportunity to open up a new role, or do you need to work on Atk/Bla/Def first a little bit before the game offers you a new role?

I'm also wondering if the "Crystarium Expanded!" bonuses are randomized...
 

dramatis

Member
As soon as you expand the Crystarium the first time, do you have the opportunity to open up a new role, or do you need to work on Atk/Bla/Def first a little bit before the game offers you a new role?

I'm also wondering if the "Crystarium Expanded!" bonuses are randomized...
They're not randomized. Usually you get offered one new role each time you expand, until you have no roles left to get. The order of the roles you get is arbitrary for each character. So Serah always learns Healer last, etc.
 
I think he is pretty great. FFT is some next level shit, and Vagrant Story is the tops. Those 2 alone are enough to be considered great. And although Toriyama sucks, we've gotten some good shit in the past so it's not unreasonable to expect a good plot. No one is talking triple A quality, but something enjoyable.

FFT has an incredibly goofy plot, and Vagrant Story puts you into a cool world with little character development. Matsuno can write great worlds, he simply sucks at characters.
 
FFT has an incredibly goofy plot, and Vagrant Story puts you into a cool world with little character development. Matsuno can write great worlds, he simply sucks at characters.
I thought Delita was one of the better written villains in the RPG genre. Even Ramza is well written. Even some of the side characters are. I thought the story was great, and a lot do. The localization wasn't the best on the first run, but good story none the less.

lol, don't worry... I haven't beat it yet. My disappointment can't be quantified yet :eek:
so are there actual towns with npcs and shops to buy items/weapons? Can you go into buildings in the towns or has square not advanced that far yet?
 
I thought Delita was one of the better written villains in the RPG genre. Even Ramza is well written. Even some of the side characters are. I thought the story was great, and a lot do. The localization wasn't the best on the first run, but good story none the less.
That's cool but it doesn't really convince me of Matsuno's talent. Anyway, this topic is about FFXIII-2.
 

Dark Schala

Eloquent Princess
They're not randomized. Usually you get offered one new role each time you expand, until you have no roles left to get. The order of the roles you get is arbitrary for each character. So Serah always learns Healer last, etc.
That isn't too bad. At least they're offering the player choice per expansion.

It bugged me a little that a few of the streamers appeared to be choosing ATB expansions first over new roles... despite the first three roles unlocked for both characters were A/B/D, thus leaving little room for flexibility during battle on their part during early/quarter-game.
 
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