Himuro said:Sure, they can be entertaining. But Avatar (depending on who you ask) is entertaining. Entertaining doesn't mean good, and since Square Enix is the biggest rpg development house in the world, their current efforts and attempts to push gaming story telling beyond what it is today is in truth, very disappointing.
Pein said:so I beat the game a week ago but I wanna go back to gran pulse, how do I go about this?
Mr. Wonderful said:I don't understand the complaints in regard to any Final Fantasy's story. Or the writing, for that matter.
BocoDragon said:Come on that's not a universal reaction at all...Snow looks like a giant white American and Serah looks like a little Japanese girl.
The only two white people in XIII are Snow and Vanille... look at their names.grumble said:what? Aren't most people in FF games white? I get that impression, judging from the hair colours being those common to white people but not in asians (ie not black), the lack of an epicanthic fold, eye colour and the facial bone structure.
I actually found it a bit weird that people in FF games are generally white in a game which predominately sells in Asia. I see why that used to be the case (need to differentiate characters with low poly/texture counts so colour head differently), but why now?
grumble said:what? Aren't most people in FF games white? I get that impression, judging from the hair colours being those common to white people but not in asians (ie not black), the lack of an epicanthic fold, eye colour and the facial bone structure.
I actually found it a bit weird that people in FF games are generally white in a game which predominately sells in Asia. I see why that used to be the case (need to differentiate characters with low poly/texture counts so colour head differently), but why now?
BocoDragon said:The only two white people in XIII are Snow and Vanille... look at their names.
ezekial45 said:Just beat it as well. I have a few questions:
1. I went back to Gran Pulse and noticed that a new area has opened up and that Giant monster from the opening scene of chapter 11 is walking around in there. How can i enter that place? (Whats the name of that giant anyway?)
2. What a good place to grind for CP? I'm gonna need alot more than 6880 cp from that Behemoth King fight.
3. I remember reading theres a multi-level dungeon in the game. How can i get there?
4. Also, where that last part for the small robot? I found four of them around town, but the last one isn't showing up.
YYZ said:I'm near the end of chapter 11, should I try to update as much as I can or should I wait until I can come back to this area? Should I just get stuff like speed boots and move on? Some of the stuff that you need for upgrading weapons to higher levels requires some tough kills. I think it's too high for me. I can't do any hunts right now beyond ~37, too much work.
Himuro said:I didn't say I think that. I didn't think you were so illiterate!![]()
their current efforts and attempts to push gaming story telling beyond what it is today is in truth, very disappointing.
Fimbulvetr said:Okay then, it's bad.
Plot holes, being heavy handed and vague at the same time, annoying characters, bad pacing, pretentious writing (i.e. "look how deep we are ;D")
7Th said:I don't find Final Fantasy characters annoying at all. Forgettable and badly defined? Probably; but most of the time they have so little presence that wouldn't be able to annoy anyone.
YOURjiggle said:just repeat mission 7 over and over for bomb core,
those will max ur tier 2 weapon at least
but u're right, to get to tier 3, u will need to come back with vanille once she has "death"
firehawk12 said:Lightning's real name isif that means anything.Claire
B.K. said:She'sonly in the English version. In the Japanese version, her real name isClaireEclair.
7Th said:I don't find Final Fantasy characters annoying at all. Forgettable and badly defined? Probably
B.K. said:She'sonly in the English version. In the Japanese version, her real name isClaireEclair.
Himuro said:especially given the fact that they are THE rpg development house in the world.
B.K. said:Not anymore, they aren't. The quality of their games has been steadily going down hill ever since the merger.
Himuro said:I agree completely but I'm talking strictly in terms of riches. These mother fuckers are rich but they don't seem to be willing at all to, I don't know, evolve beyond 90's jrpg storytelling.
But c'est la vie, I have SMT so I don't really care.![]()
Himuro said:they don't seem to be willing at all to, I don't know, evolve beyond 90's jrpg storytelling.
Himuro said:The story telling that is presented in FF13 is a total joke.
Himuro said:You haven't replaced anything with FF as your go to rpg series?
Class_A_Ninja said:So I'm at chapter 11, and I want to know if I'm doing this right:
I was running around the gran pulse area moving between objectives and mission targets. I got to mission 10, but then the objective marker leads me undergound. The mission markers are accessible, the enemies are getting tougher, and the treasure guarding enemies are near impossible. Now I'm in some flooded underwater cavern and it is getting worse. Am I going to get a chance to go back to the first area and go through this all again? I figured Vanilles village would be a short jaunt away, and they would give me a chocobo, and then I would have a chokobo. The further I go down this path, it seems more and more like it is a going to be a one way street. Should I keep going, or turn back and start grinding?
FTWer said:Apparently you are one of the few to think so. Seeing as Final Fantasy franchise is one of the few if only jRPG that sells in the millions across the U.S. & Europe (outside that pokemon crap, but the audience for that is a completely different age group). While most other big jRPG get lucky to break 500,000k wordwide.
FateBreaker said:So I am doing the Adamantoise trick (summon, death), and obviously I need time to refill my tp. I just noticed something--none of the stores allow you to purchase this??
Also, I thought winning battles gradually gave you back more tp. Am I wrong? How do you get it back?
Himuro said:The story telling that is presented in FF13 is a total joke.
Rpgmonkey said:You can recharge TP five ways:
Elixir - Dismantle a Doctor's Code*
Ethersoil - You also get one for dismantling a Doctor's Code*, among other ways, can't be bought
Killing an enemy - There's some accessory that recharges TP through that, forgot the name
Winning a battle - I assume this is based on your score
Combo - Do a full chain of attacks, slow process, great for levels 1 and 2, useless for anything higher
FTWer said:Even Vanille (after her twist) is more life-like that the vast majority of other shitty jRPG characters.
FTWer said:You don't have to grind, & you can warp back at the start of Chapter 13, otherwise just backtrack if you want.
careful said::lolEclair is just Lightning in French
TheBranca18 said:So it's pretty obvious but I'm in chapter 7 andIf Vanille and Fang aren't from Pulse than I must just be seeing things :lol , the accents and the way Vanille always hints at it are almost like Square is banging people over the head with it, can anyone just tell me if I'm right or wrong?
dreamer3kx said:Hmm seems lots of peeps dislike the story, am I the only one who enjoyed it, it started off a bit slow but it did get better, I read all the info in the datalogs once it popped up and really got into it but I can see how one would be turned off, it can be a bit confusing if you dont pay full attention to it.
sdornan said:Okay, I've gotten to Chapter 11 and I've completely lost interest. The game has opened up, sure, but at this point I just want to be done with the thing and can't be bothered anymore. Every minute I play it, I'm thinking of what other game I could be playing instead.
Papercuts said:Are all of the extras themes? I got the Sazh one for getting the Loremaster trophy, not sure about the rest.
dreamer3kx said:Hmm seems lots of peeps dislike the story, am I the only one who enjoyed it, it started off a bit slow but it did get better, I read all the info in the datalogs once it popped up and really got into it but I can see how one would be turned off, it can be a bit confusing if you dont pay full attention to it.
careful said::lolEclair is just Lightning in French
Himuro said:I'm not seeing it. This game is almost nothing like the Japanese games I've played this gen.
Otheradam said:I'm mostly talking about the way the story and gameplay mechanics unfold. It just takes way too long to get to the good stuff. I feel like I'm playing an interactive movie more than when I play any Metal Gear game :lol At least that game would be over by now. I know the battle system is really deep and stuff but they really are discrediting players by introducing it piecemeal every 2-3 hours.
Papercuts said:Are all of the extras themes? I got the Sazh one for getting the Loremaster trophy, not sure about the rest.
Himuro said:Tales of Vesperia is heavily layered in features similarly to FF13, but it's far better paced so you don't even notice.
Papercuts said:Are all of the extras themes? I got the Sazh one for getting the Loremaster trophy, not sure about the rest.
Otheradam said:I'm mostly talking about the way the story and gameplay mechanics unfold. It just takes way too long to get to the good stuff. I feel like I'm playing an interactive movie more than when I play any Metal Gear game :lol At least that game would be over by now. I know the battle system is really deep and stuff but they really are discrediting players by introducing it piecemeal every 2-3 hours.
Papercuts said:Are all of the extras themes? I got the Sazh one for getting the Loremaster trophy, not sure about the rest.