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For Honor |OT| And shame are huge parts of it

Pfft! The Raider is broken right now? He was at the bottom of the bottom before, and I guess subsequent buffs and nerfs to other classes have made the Raider broken? I haven't played this in a long ass time, so I wouldn't know.

That makes me chuckle, regardless.

Do you remember the shugoki play where people would dance back and forth before charging and getting a free heavy on knockdown?

Well, they nerfed Shugoki and made the Raider capable of charging after 1 step. While picking up the character, it drains enemy stamina the longer you run. You also get guaranteed damage off the knee + light attack

So yea he is broken haha. Times have certainly changed. I don't play anymore either, but I'm often in Sypher's or Kingrichard's (who doesn't play it much anymore either) chat.

Apparently the upcoming patch will be fixing the defensive meta, so I might try it out. The game is still enjoyable to watch, but I don't enjoy playing it much anymore
 
It's been a while since i've played, so i'm kinda scared to go back since I imagine people have gotten a lot better. God, I loved this game so much. I hope that Ubisoft keeps putting in the effort to get the playerbase back up, or that we see a sequel sometime that learns from the stupid choices they made.
 
Do you remember the shugoki play where people would dance back and forth before charging and getting a free heavy on knockdown?

Well, they nerfed Shugoki and made the Raider capable of charging after 1 step. While picking up the character, it drains enemy stamina the longer you run. You also get guaranteed damage off the knee + light attack.

I do remember when the Shugoki was able to do that. I guess Ubi said "We want Raider doing that now", and here we are.
 

Jobbs

Banned
It's been a while since i've played, so i'm kinda scared to go back since I imagine people have gotten a lot better. God, I loved this game so much. I hope that Ubisoft keeps putting in the effort to get the playerbase back up, or that we see a sequel sometime that learns from the stupid choices they made.

I don't even remember why I stopped playing. I think I didn't like how turtley it was.

I'm still sorta curious about the game (there are so few AAA games where you play as knights and vikings..) but I'm fearful of checking back in for the same reason. I'm afraid everyone still playing at this point are gods at the game and I'd just be smoked at every turn and I don't have the time or patience to train for weeks to be able to play.

If there were a lot of other shitty players running around I'd gladly jump back in.
 

John Harker

Definitely doesn't make things up as he goes along.
I don't even remember why I stopped playing. I think I didn't like how turtley it was.

I'm still sorta curious about the game (there are so few AAA games where you play as knights and vikings..) but I'm fearful of checking back in for the same reason. I'm afraid everyone still playing at this point are gods at the game and I'd just be smoked at every turn and I don't have the time or patience to train for weeks to be able to play.

If there were a lot of other shitty players running around I'd gladly jump back in.

given how R6 goes, there's bound to be a free weekend soon which will bring in like millions of day 1 fresh blood
 

Arttemis

Member
I don't even remember why I stopped playing. I think I didn't like how turtley it was.

I'm still sorta curious about the game (there are so few AAA games where you play as knights and vikings..) but I'm fearful of checking back in for the same reason. I'm afraid everyone still playing at this point are gods at the game and I'd just be smoked at every turn and I don't have the time or patience to train for weeks to be able to play.

If there were a lot of other shitty players running around I'd gladly jump back in.
The skill variety is absolutely still there, and the top tier are well segregated to themselves.

Defensive gameplay is getting flipped on its head with the tweaks they have planned a few months down the line, with lots of chip damage being added to prevent turtling. I think the game is a ton of fun as it is, and while though balance tweaks are needed in a few areas, my enjoyment of the game is still abundant.
 

Arttemis

Member
Did they eve add a non geared 4vs Conquest mode? Haven't played this since launch.
No, but they did completely revamp the stat system, completely changing the effect of stats, reducing the bonuses, and increasing the negative elements.

Recently, though, they started cycling a 'realistic' event, where the UI is disabled, revive is unavailable (can only respawn), and all gear stats are turned off. Two weeks ago, it was Dominion, this week, it's Realistic Elimination.
 

John Harker

Definitely doesn't make things up as he goes along.
No, but they did completely revamp the stat system, completely changing the effect of stats, reducing the bonuses, and increasing the negative elements.

Recently, though, they started cycling a 'realistic' event, where the UI is disabled, revive is unavailable (can only respawn), and all gear stats are turned off. Two weeks ago, it was Dominion, this week, it's Realistic Elimination.

They also announced an entirely new 4v4 mode is coming next season, but haven't given details yet
 
A new objective based game mode is what the game needs the most, so that sounds promising.

If this game had an objective mode like Chivalry, there's no way I would have quit. Imagine in For Honor:

Step 1: Start the match needing to escort the battering ram to the gate.

Step 2: Capture the courtyard and other points (like a dominion match except it finishes once a team is 3-capped)

Step 3: Kill the Lord. The attacker's storm the Keep. Whoever has the highest points up until that point for the defenders gets designated as the VIP (Lord/Lady). The match is now an elimination hybrid where there are respawns, but once the VIP dies on the defending team, the attackers win.

It's what I've always wanted from the game. I doubt the new 4v4 mode will compare :(
 

DaciaJC

Gold Member
Disappointing that there's yet another assassin/hybrid Roman-inspired hero for the knights faction. There's so much else they could do while staying within the medieval/early Renaissance period.

Highlander sounds like he'll be interesting, at least.
 

Arttemis

Member
If this game had an objective mode like Chivalry, there's no way I would have quit. Imagine in For Honor:

Step 1: Start the match needing to escort the battering ram to the gate.

Step 2: Capture the courtyard and other points (like a dominion match except it finishes once a team is 3-capped)

Step 3: Kill the Lord. The attacker's storm the Keep. Whoever has the highest points up until that point for the defenders gets designated as the VIP (Lord/Lady). The match is now an elimination hybrid where there are respawns, but once the VIP dies on the defending team, the attackers win.

It's what I've always wanted from the game. I doubt the new 4v4 mode will compare :(
That's not hard to imagine at all, as it's literally one of the single player missions. In the same order.

Protect the advancing ram by keeping enemies out of its moving Dominion-like zone. Clear out the village after the door is busted down. Fight the boss.
 
I mainly played Warden. How is the warden now? Did they nerf it? Last I played I remember the peacekeeper was OP, literally being able to change attacks from different directions faster than some characters were able to block.

Like Pk attacks from left

Other character is blocking from left

Pk attacks from right (takes 4 frames to do this or something)

Other character literally at minimum takes around 6 frames to even switch block, so is unable to block and gets hit (im not being exact but you get the idea)
 
I mainly played Warden. How is the warden now? Did they nerf it? Last I played I remember the peacekeeper was OP, literally being able to change attacks from different directions faster than some characters were able to block.

Like Pk attacks from left

Other character is blocking from left

Pk attacks from right (takes 4 frames to do this or something)

Other character literally at minimum takes around 6 frames to even switch block, so is unable to block and gets hit (im not being exact but you get the idea)

They fixed that. All characters now change their guard at the same speed
 
They fixed that. All characters now change their guard at the same speed
Ok, good. That garbage made certain characters unplayable for me. Haven't touched this game since Mass Effect came out and since Overwatch events were going on... so I might hop back in. I've always wanted a game with a combat system like this. It reminds me of the Jedi Knight games. Love when you're matched up pretty evenly and have extended lengthy duels. Game can get pretty intense.
 
That's not hard to imagine at all, as it's literally one of the single player missions. In the same order.

Protect the advancing ram by keeping enemies out of its moving Dominion-like zone. Clear out the village after the door is busted down. Fight the boss.

touche haha. Makes it even more a failing in my eyes because you know someone in production said "Hey, this would be a cool mode!"
 

Arttemis

Member
touche haha. Makes it even more a failing in my eyes because you know someone in production said "Hey, this would be a cool mode!"
Well, I have hopes for an exciting new mode in season 4. There are some dynamic traps and weapons featured in the two new maps for season 3, so it seems like they're not just balancing the game while adding the season pass maps and characters, but they're expanding it. The new realistic modes should are my favorite addition to date.
 

eizarus

Banned
Got this game a few days ago. Loving it so far having just got to Reputation/Renown 1 with the Orochi. I love the style of the class. Not sure what else to try as my secondary class (so far I'm gonna keep Orochi as my main).

I can't seem to get Revenge Mode to trigger when I'm in a 2v1. Is there something specific you have to do to get the activation button to pop up?
 

DaciaJC

Gold Member
I can't seem to get Revenge Mode to trigger when I'm in a 2v1. Is there something specific you have to do to get the activation button to pop up?

Are you having trouble activating it or building up Revenge? If it's the latter, I believe blocking attacks from multiple opponents causes you gain Revenge quickly, as well as getting hit by bash attacks (e.g. the shield bash from Conqueror). There's also Revenge stats to some pieces of gear for your character. Take a look at what your hero has equipped and make sure that the Revenge gain stat (or something similarly named) isn't negative.
 

eizarus

Banned
Are you having trouble activating it or building up Revenge? If it's the latter, I believe blocking attacks from multiple opponents causes you gain Revenge quickly, as well as getting hit by bash attacks (e.g. the shield bash from Conqueror). There's also Revenge stats to some pieces of gear for your character. Take a look at what your hero has equipped and make sure that the Revenge gain stat (or something similarly named) isn't negative.
I had trouble activating but I managed to get it going with the Centurion. Persistent guard feels so easy compared to the timed guard you get with assassins.

Now all this game needs is those dedicated servers ASAP.
 
Got this game a few days ago. Loving it so far having just got to Reputation/Renown 1 with the Orochi. I love the style of the class. Not sure what else to try as my secondary class (so far I'm gonna keep Orochi as my main).

I can't seem to get Revenge Mode to trigger when I'm in a 2v1. Is there something specific you have to do to get the activation button to pop up?

If you're fine with being underpowered, Kensei is a really good teaching class that helps you build up your fundamentals. Also, victories feel great since you really have to earn them with the Kensei
 

eizarus

Banned
If you're fine with being underpowered, Kensei is a really good teaching class that helps you build up your fundamentals. Also, victories feel great since you really have to earn them with the Kensei
Thanks, I'll give it a go. Enjoyed using him the beta more than any other class at the time.
 

John Harker

Definitely doesn't make things up as he goes along.
So whose making the new OT thread for the Free weekend this weekend? Fresh meat for freeeee
 

DaciaJC

Gold Member
So whose making the new OT thread for the Free weekend this weekend? Fresh meat for freeeee

I hope the existing community takes it easy on the newcomers (or at least be friendly and helpful). I can easily see a lot of them being put off entirely by the skill gap and connection issues.
 
We need dedicated servers soon...

Matchmaking takes forever and many games crash...

It's better to play without matchmaking but I just destroy the Bots now...
 
Anyone having trouble playing? I've managed to get into like 12 games in a row and a minute in i get 0006000137 and saying connection failed or something.

Internet is working on phone, PC and PS4 and obviously able to get me into games.
 

eizarus

Banned
Finally managed to parry someone
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Anyone having trouble playing? I've managed to get into like 12 games in a row and a minute in i get 0006000137 and saying connection failed or something.

Internet is working on phone, PC and PS4 and obviously able to get me into games.
Not had the same problem, but I've had a lot of "Players out of sync" issues on PS4
 

Artdayne

Member
The matchmaking is terrible. My first game and I got matched with a prestige 4 player. I couldn't even land one hit.

Prestige 4 is not that high, and you have to consider that there may not be a big enough userbase at the moment to match you up with someone of less playing experience.
 

John Harker

Definitely doesn't make things up as he goes along.
Prestige 4 is not that high, and you have to consider that there may not be a big enough userbase at the moment to match you up with someone of less playing experience.

Matchmaking doesn't look at prestige either way, since prestige is more time played based than skill.

It looks at MMR, win rate things like that.
If you're high Rep and get destroyed in every match there's still a chance you'll get paired up with someone much lower Rep that wins all the time
 

DaciaJC

Gold Member
The matchmaking is terrible. My first game and I got matched with a prestige 4 player. I couldn't even land one hit.

Honestly, rep 4 isn't too high. Did you play the tutorials and look through your character's moveset list and video guides? Those will be invaluable at the beginning.
 
The matchmaking is terrible. My first game and I got matched with a prestige 4 player. I couldn't even land one hit.

One other thing, the Prestige number you see is the sum of all prestige numbers from all the heroes he's played. Therefore, it could be his first match with the hero he chose that match.

To have a better indication of the potential level of play of a specific hero, you should look at the gear stat number instead of the prestige number.
 
re-installed for highlander and my customization options for the dlc heroes got completely reset and it says i only have one loadout despite both of them being past rep 1 :/

ornaments on my vanilla characters got reset too

wtf
 

DaciaJC

Gold Member
re-installed for highlander and my customization options for the dlc heroes got completely reset and it says i only have one loadout despite both of them being past rep 1 :/

ornaments on my vanilla characters got reset too

wtf

I recall reading a similar thread on the Steam forums, except the person lost all of their progression after reinstalling. The Ubisoft mod said they should contact support, that they'd be able to get their stuff back pretty easily.
 
I recall reading a similar thread on the Steam forums, except the person lost all of their progression after reinstalling. The Ubisoft mod said they should contact support, that they'd be able to get their stuff back pretty easily.

i just restarted my ps4 a few times and ejected the disc and it managed to fix itself, customization options are still reset for some characters though :/


my first 4v4 in months ended with a DC lmao
 

eizarus

Banned
i just restarted my ps4 a few times and ejected the disc and it managed to fix itself, customization options are still reset for some characters though :/


my first 4v4 in months ended with a DC lmao
Never seen a game with such bad matchmaking and disconnects. Can't wait for them to roll out dedicated servers.
 
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