Wildstar75
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lol at 2018. Also I dont agree with Iwata, that consoles are a nuisance gamers put up with and pay for so they can play their games. I get excited about new consoles because games can have new features or capabilities.
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Forbes column on PS4, Xbox 720, Wii 2 (next-gen systems)
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2018 for next-gen? Holy shit i better get working on an official thread.
Agent X
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Here's an interesting quote from Iwata in that article:
Atari founder Nolan Bushnell once said something very similar. I don't have the exact quote, but it was something along the lines of, "Nobody wants to buy hardware, they only want software. Hardware is just something you buy in order to use software."
Amazing, I never knew Taito planned a home video game console!
The Konix Multisystem was a forerunner to the Atari Jaguar.
Atari founder Nolan Bushnell once said something very similar. I don't have the exact quote, but it was something along the lines of, "Nobody wants to buy hardware, they only want software. Hardware is just something you buy in order to use software."
camineet said:
Amazing, I never knew Taito planned a home video game console!
The Konix Multisystem was a forerunner to the Atari Jaguar.
viciouskillersquirrel
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You may be right, but it's a perfect name for the demographic the original Xbox was aiming for: PC gamers and power-motivated console gamers in the 14 - 35 age bracket. Think about it: the name Xbox has a ring to it that makes you think "futuristic", "cutting edge" and "untapped power under the hood".legend166 said:
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legend166 said:
dude, "Xbox" is probably one of the most commonly associated names when someone in the mainstream audience thinks of video games, and is surely the new "Nintendo" when it comes to generalizing all games under one name. microsoft will let just about any movie or tv show these days feature the old Xbox or new one and the name is all over. axing the brand name now would be a huge fuck-up on MS;s part,
SSM25 said:
It really does, I mean a $500.00 computer already kicks the fuck out of them. Last gen it took more than a couple of years and a couple of grand to show any difference.
Oh well I think MS will have something out by 2012 and Sony will be forced soon after with 4096p TVs around the corner and Nintendo will be on WiiThree with mind control by then.:lol
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motion control will come standard for all new systems. I'd say 2011 or 2012 is a good estimate for the new systems. I'd also say a traditional controller will be included as well with the next Xbox or Playstation. I don't think either system wants to forget about the traditional style of games.
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kiUNiT said:
Oh really?! I don't believe.
AranhaHunter
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2012 at the earliest for next gen systems please. 2014 would be ideal.
Deus Ex Machina
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Console games are going to look like crap compared to PC games for the next 4 years.
I mean they're outdated now.... just think 4 more years
I mean they're outdated now.... just think 4 more years
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Doesn't mean anything when it doesn't translate to sales.
Even then, what you're saying is US only. Microsoft need to start focusing more on other regions. ESPECIALLY Europe.
I mean, look at one of their major announcements at E3 - Netflix downloads. That's never even going to be available anywhere else.
noirebanana
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disappeared said:
Nintendo has had no problem basically killing off the Game Boy brand, which is the most successful name in the history of video game platforms, and replacing it with the Nintendo DS.
If Nintendo can get away with killing off Game Boy, then Microsoft shouldn't have any problems erasing the Xbox name from existence as long as they get the marketing right. (And, by the way, their next system should NOT have "720" in it; it just sounds so ridiculous.)
GaryD said:
You are crazy if you think they are releasing a new console in 2 years and a few months from now.
If I had to place bets it will be in 2011 / 12.
With 2011, MS will still probably beat ps4 to market by a year or 2, shit maybe even 3.
The next system I think we are going to hear about is DS2. And I'd guess we'd hear something about it by next e3.
This to (longer development cycles) is another reason I believe these are going to be 6+ year console cycleszoku88 said:
Keru_Shiri
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True, except that Nintendo didn't just kill off the Gameboy brand one day and introduced the DS. The Gameboy had gone through several iterations, and was a household name for more than a decade before the DS arrived. Plus, the DS brand was originally supposed to stand separately from the GB brand, back when Nintendo touted it's "Three Pillars" support. DS's immense popularity with it's Touch Generations software, as well as a slew of good core titles is what eventually pushed the GBA out.GamerGeorge said:
As for MS, I wouldn't expect to see them abandoning the Xbox brand unless they try and follow Nintendo's lead, and venture into blue ocean territory, but all of that is going to depend on how profitable a venture the 360 is this generation.
Of course, this is all from my humble, layman's perspective.
Deus Ex Machina
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I'm already saving up for my next PC.
No way am I waiting until 2012 to buy new hardware. That's insane.
No way am I waiting until 2012 to buy new hardware. That's insane.
Nuclear Muffin
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DS2: Announced E3 2009, released late 2009/early 2010
PSP2: Announced E3 2009, released early 2010
Wii2: Announced E3 2010, released early 2011
PS4: Announced E3 2011, released 2012
Xbox 3: Announced E3 2010, released early 2011 or late 2011 (Only if there's a problem in development, they'll really push for a similar launch timeframe to Wii 2)
Those are my predictions anyway, MS said they wanted to be first out of the gate next gen and if the Motion + really was announced as a counter measure move against a possible 360/PS3 Waggle controller, then Nintendo might want to get their next console out early in order to avoid a possible situation where MS's next machine would copy the Wii in every way and improve on it.
DS hardware is already ancient and support is dwindling down, it's going into it's last full year of support IMO and Sony will probably copy the DS's design for the PSP2 so there's the whole issue of having their hand forced. Sony will be slow out of the gate with the PS3 though I reckon.
PSP2: Announced E3 2009, released early 2010
Wii2: Announced E3 2010, released early 2011
PS4: Announced E3 2011, released 2012
Xbox 3: Announced E3 2010, released early 2011 or late 2011 (Only if there's a problem in development, they'll really push for a similar launch timeframe to Wii 2)
Those are my predictions anyway, MS said they wanted to be first out of the gate next gen and if the Motion + really was announced as a counter measure move against a possible 360/PS3 Waggle controller, then Nintendo might want to get their next console out early in order to avoid a possible situation where MS's next machine would copy the Wii in every way and improve on it.
DS hardware is already ancient and support is dwindling down, it's going into it's last full year of support IMO and Sony will probably copy the DS's design for the PSP2 so there's the whole issue of having their hand forced. Sony will be slow out of the gate with the PS3 though I reckon.
Suburban Cowboy
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Microsoft will be the only company that will want a next gen
PuppetSlave
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How much chance do you think this has? No chance in hell or?
The kind of success Nintendo is enjoying is so not depending solely on waggle.Nuclear Muffin said:
Well, a $500 PC this Xmas was able to kick consoles butts on CoD4, as an example.mckmas8808 said:
Since that is true, I would say that, given quality development, yes: a $500 PC is now readily able to kick consoles asses.
And I agree that the feeling is that this happened faster than in previous gens.
Deus Ex Machina
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Call Of Duty 4, Bioshock, and Oblivion are the only three titles I own that are also available on the 360 - don't get me wrong, the 360 is an awesome machine, but there's just no way you that the 360 can compete with the clarity afforded by the pc.cedric69 said:
Oblivion in particular isn't even close. Oblivion looks so much better on the PC that it's almost like night and day.
noirebanana
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Keru_Shiri said:
I wouldn't expect Microsoft to go after Nintendo's position in the market because the sole reason Microsoft entered the console business in the first place was to try and stop Sony from taking complete control of the "all important" home entertainment market. Microsoft is doing a good job in that regard, severely slowing Sony down (although Sony themselves have done some rather stupid things as well to help), but for now, Microsoft and Nintendo are not direct competitors.
That could change in the next generation, though, if Nintendo suddenly decides to go after Microsoft and Sony directly.
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camineet said:
I actually wouldn't mind that. :lol
Just put 10 GB on board and ditch friend codes and it would be like teh perfekt console.
Edit- Well not perfect, but I'm being conservative with what I hope Nintendo does. :lol
Deus Ex Machina
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The 360 is already three years old waiting five more years is crazy. That's eight years!Dirtbag 504 said:
tahrikmili
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2011-2012 Most likely.
2013 latest.
2018? WTF LOL.
2013 latest.
2018? WTF LOL.
MEh...by the time it is 2010-2015 i bet new HD resolutions will pop up (they are testing ultra HD in japan). And consoles will lag behind it again just like this generation.
HD brodacast and tvs are very progressive. Releasing a console with narrow HD resolutions is a mistake. Who knows when will they start to sell 2160p TVs..
HD brodacast and tvs are very progressive. Releasing a console with narrow HD resolutions is a mistake. Who knows when will they start to sell 2160p TVs..
Eccocid said:
There isn't enough multiplexer space to do 1080p for HD broadcast. The highest quality HD broadcasting in the world is from the BBC and that is ~20-25Mbps MPEG-4 @ 1080i.
You also will not be able to see the difference between 1080p and 2160p on TV sizes below 60".
2160p is pointless. It may happen sooner or later but not for another 10yrs.
Next move is colour based, not resolution.
I'm expecting the first next-gen machine by 2010.
Someone will launch early like always to try and beat the competition. It's either Microsoft or Nintendo. The Xbox 360 sales are already slowing down, not to mention the fact that MS now has Square-Enix, Capcom, Epic and other developers to support them early on.
Nintendo might want to push the competitors out of the market. The perfect way to do this is to lower the price of the Wii to $99 in 2010 to cover the budget market and to launch a new high-end console for $249/$299 which is slightly more powerfull than the Xbox 360/PS3 has a new "innovation" but games will look better than their Xbox 360/PS3 counterparts since Nintendo will be able to use the newest GPU features and shaders. The competition won't expect them to launch early. It's the "market disruption" all over again.
Someone will launch early like always to try and beat the competition. It's either Microsoft or Nintendo. The Xbox 360 sales are already slowing down, not to mention the fact that MS now has Square-Enix, Capcom, Epic and other developers to support them early on.
Nintendo might want to push the competitors out of the market. The perfect way to do this is to lower the price of the Wii to $99 in 2010 to cover the budget market and to launch a new high-end console for $249/$299 which is slightly more powerfull than the Xbox 360/PS3 has a new "innovation" but games will look better than their Xbox 360/PS3 counterparts since Nintendo will be able to use the newest GPU features and shaders. The competition won't expect them to launch early. It's the "market disruption" all over again.
Scott32020
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Dreamcast 2 - 2009 (Believe)
Wii2 - 2011
Microsoft Console 3 - Late 2011/Early 2012
PS4 - Late 2012
Wii2 - 2011
Microsoft Console 3 - Late 2011/Early 2012
PS4 - Late 2012