This is one of the most bizarro world occurences I have ever witnessed. Epic is muscing in, undercutting, spending money to artificially boost themselves quickly and running a slander campaign against their competing business they're trying to muscle in on. It's flagrant, pathetic, transparent and disgusting. As obvious and stereotypical a dirty business move as has ever happened, to the point where I'm certain people in this very thread have seen children's movies with companies called 'Big Evil Ent.' doing this. "We're not evil, we're helping youuuuu"
And yet people are buying this bullshit hook line and sinker. How fucking dumb do you have to be to not see through this? "Aww, isn't Steam ebul exploiting devs, 30 % is so big a number, much biggerrer than 12% isn't it. WE GOOD GUYS. DEVS WE HELP DEVS ONLY FOR DEVS SAKE. NOT BSNS NO" It's juvenile, yet the white knights are coming out of the woodwork falling for this shit. I know ignorance is something one should expect, but to be this gullible and easy to exploit, and it's not just astroturfers, I wish it was, it's the self-righteous dumbfuck to whom uttering the phrase "for devs" makes him go full spastic crusader against Steam. Equipped with the great knowledge of 30>12=FUCKSTAEM.
Of course "devs" play a part in feeding this too. Publishers and high level management at studios are smart enough to jump on the opportunity for free dosh, hey it might even permanently force Steam to give them more money in the long run. Great con! Minimal risk, guaranteed benefit. But the lowly scumfuck nobody developer? They're just as ignorant as the white knights, but fucking think the world revolves around them so how dare someone other then them get moneees, the same ones that fucking hate the consumers for being consumers and not charity handouts with compliments. Fishing for sycophants that pander to their ego. Seems there's plenty of 'em. What a horrible horrible time we have to come. The fallout is going to squarly land on the consumer who doesn't give a fuck and didn't partake in the stupidity. It's amazing how it went from companies get 27 bucks per unit in stores, to getting 42 bucks per unit on Steam, to getting 53 bucks per unit on Epic, and the consumer is still paying 60 bucks, not a single cent of those savings trickled down to the buyer. Really makes the almonds go. Poor fucking devs indeed.
but I mean sony microsoft and nintendo put a lot of money into the hardware. Steam gets to use windows and pcs for free
30% is unreasonable.
Oh so suddenly it's fine to "rob poor wittle devs" 30% if they spend that shit on something?
Do you not realise how asinine that logic is? 30% is 30%, if that's your hang up, then how they spend it means jack fucking shit. "Yeah, it's highway robbery, but they spend it on the stock market instead of a Ferrari!" Consistency, please. Otherwise you're disingenous and a farce.
And that criticism specifically, they do all kinds of extraneous bullshit I couldn't give less of a fuck about, SteamOS, the failure box thing, the shitty controller and a myriad of other things. I'm no fan of how Steam operates and what they focus on, but come on that's just slanderous.
"Killing the industry" was hyperbole. Perhaps "stifling the industry" reads more accurately there.
If Epic successfully competes and Valve has to slash down from 30% to 25/20/15, then that in and of itself will prove 30% was unsustainable.
lol, yeah they prove they can undercut their opponents in a way that does lasting damage to business
they ain't stiffling shit, 30% was the reason for Steam getting popular with pubs to begin with, since it was fucking amazing compared to the 55% cut of the brick and mortar system at the time of the 360/PS3, which they put up with for decades mind in the prior gens, no fucking whinging about poor devs
you read that right
the reason Steam became a popular with gamemakers was the 30% cut, because it meant despite PC games selling less units, they managed to stay close to, or at times outperform the revenue from a single console
oh wait suddenly it's horrible, and they're evil, why 12% gets us even more money! fuck steam!
you're being taken for a ride friend, and you're falling for it
ooh, how about this, 30-12 is 18 right? but 12-0 is 12, and that's 2/3s of 18, the amount by which it's less than Steam. that's horrible! they're still robbing devs! they should get 0%, they should just fund the store off of Fortnite! evil bandits the lot of 'em at Epic!
or if you wanna be a consumer advocate for the first time in your life say, go with 12%, but your game costs 50 instead of 60, devs get 2 dollars more, consumer pays 10 less! everyone wins, people might even wanna jump on the store more now, and more unit sales are what devs want after all! oh wait, that's evil too, God forbid you didn't care about devs ahead of yourself
