Mayjaplaya
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I could've sworn that was the subtitle of this thread at one point just yesterday but for some reason it got removed.
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Forza Motorsport 6 |OT| Forza turns 10
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I could've sworn that was the subtitle of this thread at one point just yesterday but for some reason it got removed.
Foutrologue
Banned
From Reddit. God.. the physics are phenomenal.
This is from Driftwood at Gamersyde:
http://www.gamersyde.com/news_our_1080p_60fps_videos_of_forza_6-17086_en.html
It was. Was also decided as the title a week or two ago
Terbinator
Member
But it wasn't working regardless, that's what I'm saying.
It was lap 6/8 on the Nur endurance challenge and I'd missed the putstop and wanted to rewind, couldn't, and so tried to force the prompt with a crash and still had no joy. 40mins of progress lost because of the rewind wouldn't register.
Side-note: all of the cars for that event are pants except the Z4 - the SLS in particular handles horribly under braking.
Terbinator
Member
Wow, and to top this off the game is no stuck in rewind - 4 laps into my second attempt.
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Sounds like you may want to restart the game
soundscream
Member
It shouldn't have any effect on the game unless you're trying to say something about female drivers.
Of all the things to have issue with this is quite the head scratcher. The simple way to introduce it would be a choose your driver option before you start the career. But even of its not in your face its a good thing to have in the game.
LoveCake
Member
What are there names or yours, i cannot find these.
Haven't seen this yet. Thanks for the correction and link, sir.
drugstore_cowboy
Member
Well done for stepping in frontieruk, great job.
Where's my title!
Where's my title!
frontieruk
Member
Was looking on reddit and found the issue is to do with rewinding while drivatars are in the pits. Rewind just simply doesn't work when the drivatars are in the pits. I'll look too see if somebody has posted it on the FM.net forums
Don't have an issue with it per say, just entering a dialogue about it, simply a discussion point, nothing more.
It confuses me when developers add something to a game that has no bearing on the game or isnt communicated to the player.
JackAubrey
Member
It has a bearing on the game for my daughter. That simple choice existing is important.
I understand that, but ten mins after your daughter has selected the female driver does she remember the in-game driver is female?, other than an arbitrary option to select 'female' in the option menu her game is identical to someone who is using a male avatar, it's impossible to tell if one is using male or female.
Now if there was a way to, in an RPG style, create a character and have that character appear in a post race podium presentation, or some kind of media interaction, I can see value in it.
This kind of leads me onto a post I've been considering for a while, that being the lack of any meaningful narrative in SIM style racing games.....
JackAubrey
Member
I think those that have been excluded will likely feel it matters more. There are things we often don't notice from our privileged position.
Very possibly, I guess I'd have to ask them to find out!
Wonder what the figures are for female gamers in games like this?
soundscream
Member
It does make a difference even if it's a small one. Any customization to make your in game avatar closer to who you are is meaningful.
So I've decided to get the Thrustmaster TX (thanks again to terrible for clarifying some things). I never played Forza 5 (don't currently have the console), but I put a shit ton of hours into Forza 4 with my old 911 GT2 wheel. So, to the wheel users here, how does Forza 6 compare to Forza 4 regarding physics?
Due to selling my GT2 a year ago I'm a bit rusty on the sim racing front, but I always felt more at home with Forza 4's driving model than iRacing for example (although I still love it). If Forza 6 drives similar, I can imagine falling in love with the franchise again.
Due to selling my GT2 a year ago I'm a bit rusty on the sim racing front, but I always felt more at home with Forza 4's driving model than iRacing for example (although I still love it). If Forza 6 drives similar, I can imagine falling in love with the franchise again.
GHG
Member
Mista
Banned
Beautiful OT thanks OP!
Loving the game so much. Way better than 5 the garbage!
I played for like 2-3 hours and enjoying to max. Night races are from heaven!
Rain races? Its just unbelievable, so good. Especially if theres a spot full of water, if you go over it your car will lose grip a bit and you have to control it! This game is simply beautiful.
Loving the game so much. Way better than 5 the garbage!
I played for like 2-3 hours and enjoying to max. Night races are from heaven!
Rain races? Its just unbelievable, so good. Especially if theres a spot full of water, if you go over it your car will lose grip a bit and you have to control it! This game is simply beautiful.
Terbinator
Member
I've not checked them in 6, but usually the stats list is a mile long. Tons of things tracked.
Arguably the best rain races in a racing game yet, which makes it all the more of a shame that's not available on all tracks.
TylerDurden4321
Member
I remember Dan Greenawalt talking about how diverse their player base was in an interview from 2013. He mentioned France having a very high percentage of female Forza players (France is Playstationland though, so there aren't many XBO gamers there in the first place).
We were talking about the same thing in the PCARS thread. The career idea with contracts and so on is a good idea, but needs more character to it. Rivalries, press interviews, random events, popularity ratings, a way to spend your money on things for your character that aren't cars.
The problem is the style of that career. Should it feel like the career in Grid, starting in a small garage with american muscle? One where you are part of a tuning crew, a little F&F/NFS-style? Should it be a decades spanning racedriver career? Or a short and professional one where you rise up to Formula 1?
Again Forza is too many things to too many different people to go for just one style of career. Maybe Turn 10 should try it anyway. It could even be DLC, like what GT did with Senna, just with more "story" focus.
You can check them in the 'My Drivatar' tile on the options screen. It tracks a hell of a lot of data but not distance per car.
It even goes into minute details such as average and max tyre loads, tyre temps, suspension strokes, acceleration Gs, braking Gs and lateral Gs.
Diablohead
Member
I'm glad they kept the alps track in forza 6, I really enjoy that circuit.
pppppst, hey turn 10 when will the alpine ring make it's glorious return?
This reminds me of the forza 3 demo, if you drove backwards around the last corner and tried to handbrake on the downhill grass you could roll the car.
It's one thing forza kind of lacked and that was having enough traction at speed to flip the car, it always felt like skidding at 200mph was turning the road into ice.
pppppst, hey turn 10 when will the alpine ring make it's glorious return?
From Reddit. God.. the physics are phenomenal.
This reminds me of the forza 3 demo, if you drove backwards around the last corner and tried to handbrake on the downhill grass you could roll the car.
It's one thing forza kind of lacked and that was having enough traction at speed to flip the car, it always felt like skidding at 200mph was turning the road into ice.
Forza 5 with the TX wheel was the first time Forza FF felt right. That HID vs XID difference? Get the TX base and one of the better rims though.
I was in a league race last night where some guy in an old muscle car decided to handbrake onto the infield at Daytona over the finish line. His car barrel rolled a good 6 or 7 times.
Terbinator
Member
It pains me it isn't the FM4 version with the fencing along the bridge section. Great sense of speed ploughing through there that is lost in FM5/6.
Steve McQueen
Member
Agree. After playing DC and Pcars for hours, not being able to set the time of day and weather conditions feels bad.
GoldenCrow
Member
For those with the game. What are the differences to the physics and handling model this time and how does it compare to previous entries for you? How is variety in car feel? What direction have they gone with the car audio, more of the same or an improvement? These are all questions you would think would be answered in a review but nah basic fundamentals never get written about.
Tyre model is improved, at least for road tyres, suspension model feels more progressive, so better cars with more sophisticated suspension handle much better, so the cars now appear to have more variety in feel, where as I think more powerful cars just used to feel like slower cars with less sophisticated suspension, but with more power in previous versions.
Much better than 5, but I still think slicks are way off.
Car audio is more visceral, take the AMG SLS, burbles and pops on overrun and just sounds really organic and realistic, but it is a mixed bag with some sounding much better than others.
I think many of these things are very subjective though.
do you mean that the brake stat for the car actually changes just because you fiddle with the break pressure?
I'm no brake expert, but lowering the pressure on the brakes shouldn't impact brake distance in a good way.
TylerDurden4321
Member
I was thinking the same thing. Does the algorithm that calculates the brake distance brakes linear/not ideal?
Maybe braking on a drag strip would help for testing? Go split-screen, both players take the same car, but with different brake pressure on the 1 mile drag strip, TCS and automatic shifting on, accelerate to 160mph then brake the way you want to brake in both cars one after the other and check which car had the shorter braking distance.
Diablohead
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Terbinator
Member
The full circuit is in, but what I meant was this fence was removed in both FM5 and 6 but it added so much to that section:
would need to use abs as well, otherwise the guy with the higher pressure would just lock the tires quicker than the other guy.
Diablohead
Member
a strange change, yeah it was part of the track in my eyes and gave it some style outside of snow and mountians.
TylerDurden4321
Member
Not sure if the brake-distance calculation algorithm uses ABS. I'd guess not, so we can't prove it right or wrong either way. He probably should just test it the way he wants to brake, with or without abs, full trigger press or only 70% down. That way the result is at least valid for himself.
I tried to copy this design (edit: it's a WheelsAndMore.de Ferrari F12 Berlinetta tuning, you could find the design with "wheels and more" in the keywords in Forza):
I photoshop-filtered the image because the garage lighting made the yellow look too cold, on track the color is pretty accurate. Where I messed up is the stripe-distance, but it looks good, so whatever.
Talking about brake lock-up..., check my design with these rims:
There were quite a few rims where this happened.
I don't think any of the F&F cars belong to any group or division (there are a few others as well) therefore I don't think they fit into the career anywhere.