What? Ew. Lol. No I hate those. I meant rubber being layed down and marbles forming from that. I know the cars get dirty from racing I'm just wondering if the tracks also change from cars on them.
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Forza Motorsport 6 |OT| Forza turns 10
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Foutrologue
Banned
Nope
Damn. Game looks great otherwise. Like it's making me really want an Xbox One.
Foutrologue
Banned
60fps comes at a cost..but yeah Forza 6 would be a good reason to grab a One.
For sure, but it's really not that crazy, just a darkening in of the racing line where the cars are running and the marbles don't have to be super detailed. Also the physics would obviously change from how much rubber is on the line. I figured it didn't but I haven't kept up with the game much. Just a lot of sims are moving into that direction now of focusing on the tracks like that. Different beast here though and I understand.
TylerDurden4321
Member
OPTICALLY it totally does, I just tried it at Monza GP. Did a burnout start with the Berlinetta from the thread-page before, then a borderline-stoppie. Tyre marks there. Then did a normal lap and checked if the tyre marks were still there and yes, they were exactly where I left them at the start
Edit: Of course that might be just for your car and it might be gone after you left x amount of marks, but most Forza players aren't into endurance.
What about wet weather? Does a dry line form from the cars running on it?
TylerDurden4321
Member
no. Weather isn't dynmic in any way. No puddles growing or shrinking, no dry-line, no windshield spraying from the guys in front of you.
But it FEELS great with an FFB-wheel and with a controller probably too.
Terbinator
Member
GHG
Member
Nope. The weather effects are not dynamic, they just effect how the cars handle.
H3rTz DoNuT
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Just search using creator option, my gamertag is the same as my GAF name: H3rTz DoNuT
Thank you mate
scarface983
Member
when are we supposed to get the credits from having all the cars from past Forzas?
Spaceman Spiff
Member
I finally got some time to dive in last night, and yeah, best Forza ever. No contest. Ten years in, and the game is better than ever. Congrats, Turn 10.
My only real gripe is the lack of an option to race against stock opponents in career mode. As one of those weirdos who enjoys driving cars as they are, warts and all, the mandatory auto-upgrade to the top of a given class killed my enthusiasm for FM5's career and will likely do they same here. It's a shame, because the 'Stories of Motorsport' is a wonderful concept that breathes some new life into Forza's typically forgettable careers.
I bailed in the middle of the Qualifier series and spent the rest of the night messing around in Free Play and Rivals. It's all great fun, but in a game with such a robust selection of race cars, not being able to enjoy GT races without supercars in the pack is a bit of a bummer. Thank goodness Turn 10 is apparently aware of the limited options for setting the AI grid and a fix might possibly (?) be in the works.
I went ahead and added myself to the GAF spreadsheet. Internet connection here is oddly inconsistent at the moment, so no multiplayer for a while, but if anyone wants a Rivals ghost or an extra Drivatar, (with no guarantee of skill expressed or implied), feel free to add me.
GT: Thagom1zer
My only real gripe is the lack of an option to race against stock opponents in career mode. As one of those weirdos who enjoys driving cars as they are, warts and all, the mandatory auto-upgrade to the top of a given class killed my enthusiasm for FM5's career and will likely do they same here. It's a shame, because the 'Stories of Motorsport' is a wonderful concept that breathes some new life into Forza's typically forgettable careers.
I bailed in the middle of the Qualifier series and spent the rest of the night messing around in Free Play and Rivals. It's all great fun, but in a game with such a robust selection of race cars, not being able to enjoy GT races without supercars in the pack is a bit of a bummer. Thank goodness Turn 10 is apparently aware of the limited options for setting the AI grid and a fix might possibly (?) be in the works.
I went ahead and added myself to the GAF spreadsheet. Internet connection here is oddly inconsistent at the moment, so no multiplayer for a while, but if anyone wants a Rivals ghost or an extra Drivatar, (with no guarantee of skill expressed or implied), feel free to add me.
GT: Thagom1zer
Damn.
Thanks.
I would guess on Tuesday when the game is officially live.
Waiting on 3.2M and all the cars besides the VIP ones myself.
Captain_Fujisawa
Member
I agree, the cars on the whole feel much better, the supercars appear to be drivable now, I gave up with them in 5. Same with the group C, I drove the 787B and it was great.
I find the 2015 Lotus F1 car to just be ridiculous. The acceleration and handling scores aren't that much higher than the Indycars; although on a track I know it is in another league. It just spins up though, you have to be super careful about accelerating out of any corner. If you hit about 60 throttle in 1st, 2nd or 3rd, it spins the wheels. It just doesn't seem to have enough grip or downforce. The telemetry says it has about 980 bhp, but less than 300 ft/lbs of torque. If you accelerate in a straight line, it's kind of ok, coming out of a corner, I have to baby it.
I don't really get it, other cars have more power/torque, perhaps it's just the amazing power delivery of the Mercedes power unit and Lotus couldn't afford to make it drivable.
In general I feel as standard the cars don't have enough grip. Sometimes you think you've gone in to a corner slow enough, the nose has turned in fine, but the back isn't happy.
Fortinbras
Member
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Got the credits and the reward cars immediately after the first race.
Edit: Brabham BT24 + Rio = perfection
FunkyDealer
Banned
I thought I saw the puddles grow, guess not. It's definitely the best simulation of rainy conditions in any current racer though.
JackAubrey
Member
There's an episode of Top Gear where Hammond drives an F1 car and he found it had no grip. He said the grip didn't come until you were going fast enough for the downforce to work - which is counter intuitive but is the way these cars work.
The result is that you might have a corner that you can't get round faster than 70mph, but over 120mph you can get round it again.
GoldenCrow
Member
If the simulation is similar to real life the downforce is vital for grip in an F1 car and that means maintaining as much speed as possible otherwise there won't be enough grip for acceleration. Without watching gameplay of you attempting it I can't really comment accurately but my suspicion is you are losing slightly too much speed.
TheAdmiester
Member
This is a (likely) DLC spoiler, so avoid if you prefer surprises.
How does someone already have this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OEN4vEW-AA
How does someone already have this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OEN4vEW-AA
Terbinator
Member
The PGR4 is real.
Holy crap I need this. I loved that car in PGR 4.
Yeah, we really need a sound mixer to adjust engine volume and opponent volume.
Its not the grip in corners. The car simply has no traction while accelerating from standing still, lower speeds. Thats not an aero problem
v0mitg0d
Member
http://youtu.be/MLHEP0i90Z0
So I streamed about 45 mins of gameplay with fellow GAFers a few days ago (full game) and we had a blast!
We played some Indicar stuff, Top Gear stuff, Vintage Experental stuff, and then some career. Love this game!
Let me know what you think!
So I streamed about 45 mins of gameplay with fellow GAFers a few days ago (full game) and we had a blast!
We played some Indicar stuff, Top Gear stuff, Vintage Experental stuff, and then some career. Love this game!
Let me know what you think!
GrizzleBoy
Banned
These are the new electrically assisted turbo v6 era cars and they have absolute buttloads of torque.
If you watch a quali lap from the end of the V8 era younwont see much short shifting but even on dry conditions drivers are short shifting ss a rule of thumb in the new cars. Much of the available torque isnt usable and will indeed cause much spinning up.
TheAdmiester
Member
The latter of those two cars seems to have a glitched out bonnet camera that blocks most of the screen. It seems to be unfinished content but that raises the question of how they got it.
Terbinator
Member
It genuinely boggles my mind the classic fantasy tracks haven't made a return, especially Camino and Maple.
Hawk269
Member
Agree 100%. I figured they were missing in F5 due to time restraints of being a launch title, when they were not announced for F6, it was really a bummer. Imagine Maple Valley in the rain??
That is the other thing about the fantasy tracks, they can make them have wet weather as well since the reasoning on why some do and some don't is that it is based on if in the real world the track would have rain, with fantasy tracks that is mute and could be done. I am sure all of us would welcome a few more tracks at night or rain, their stable of fantasy tracks would easily allow this.
In addition, I always though their fantasy tracks were really well done. They add a lot of variety to the game and I really hope we see a few of them appear as DLC. T10 has pushed for 24 cars on track (most ever in a Forza game), Rain and Night (First time in a Forza game), why not go for the most ever track count in a Forza game? If I am correct, F6 matches F4 in track count...throw in Maple Valley, Camino Real and Alpine Ring and boom "MOST TRACKS EVER". lol
I'm pretty much on the same boat.. there are some other games i'd buy the Xbox One for (Halo, Quantum Break) but Forza is the main reason atm. Something is holding me back though.. i'm still waiting for a smaller sized box i think.
Fortinbras
Member
A smaller Xbox maybe released next fall but if you can't wait, I expect there to be some cracking deals in the next few months.
I really miss Tsukuba as well. That was my goat track. I loved it. Also miss mugello too.
CheeseConey
Member
Will we still be able to buy the VIP pass later if we get the retail version?
SkinnerSw33t
Member
Based on FM5 and FH2, yes, and it seems highly likely, but we won't know for sure until Tuesday.
Scaramanger
Member
So Ive been playing for a bit now and have some initial positive and negative thoughts: -
Pros
- Looks great (rolling fog, sand, mist effects are fantastic)
- rain is superb, best implementation i've played with the puddles having a dramatic effect
Cons
- Braking is a nightmare. Basically seems to be no finesse, touching the trigger means lockup.
- AI are more destruction derby than race. I think PCars has this better, I can race many laps bumper to bumper in PCars, in forza I get AI randomly braking and other such oddities.
- Lacking any kind of visceral feel. Cars slide around but apart from the squealing its not very dramatic (caveat not tried anything high powered yet!).
Edit:
Ok went for a quick spin in a GT3 Z4 at Watkins Glen and that felt a lot better, maybe the career just isn't for me!
Edit Edit:
One thing I really miss from PCars is the brake lights. Really struggle to see them in Forza, even at night, they are very subtle. Its like they change colour rather than shine
Pros
- Looks great (rolling fog, sand, mist effects are fantastic)
- rain is superb, best implementation i've played with the puddles having a dramatic effect
Cons
- Braking is a nightmare. Basically seems to be no finesse, touching the trigger means lockup.
- AI are more destruction derby than race. I think PCars has this better, I can race many laps bumper to bumper in PCars, in forza I get AI randomly braking and other such oddities.
- Lacking any kind of visceral feel. Cars slide around but apart from the squealing its not very dramatic (caveat not tried anything high powered yet!).
Edit:
Ok went for a quick spin in a GT3 Z4 at Watkins Glen and that felt a lot better, maybe the career just isn't for me!
Edit Edit:
One thing I really miss from PCars is the brake lights. Really struggle to see them in Forza, even at night, they are very subtle. Its like they change colour rather than shine
Couldn't agree more, that's my biggest issue with this game. I don't want to completely alter a cars character, and in FH2 I didn't have to. The AI would just adjust to whatever you were in, it was brilliant. I just like upgrading to street or sport tires, doing some drivetrain and suspension work and calling it a day. I don't want to double every cars HP. I did not hear they were going to try some things to address this, that's great news.
If I'm in a race car, I don't want to have a bunch of street cars on the track with me. Mixed race cars are fun and cool to see go head to head, but I do not want to see a Veyron next to my BMW Z4 race car.
Slackbladder
Member
I have'nt tried that many cars in night races but are dashboard lights missing? Usually you'd have backlighting on the rev counter/ speedo etc. But the cars I've tried just don't have anything. Seems to be missing an important detail. But I'll try more cars to be sure.
Also, when you do a series of 6 races for example, it shows the layout of the first race but none of the others so you don't know what layout you'll have in a race until you either start the race or do a practice lap. Silly oversight.
My main complaint is the AI engine sound. It's far too high. Really annoying when using manual gears and no rev display.
That said I like the game. Definately need brake adjustments, though. Perhaps altering the controller braking trigger less sensitive would help?
Also, when you do a series of 6 races for example, it shows the layout of the first race but none of the others so you don't know what layout you'll have in a race until you either start the race or do a practice lap. Silly oversight.
My main complaint is the AI engine sound. It's far too high. Really annoying when using manual gears and no rev display.
That said I like the game. Definately need brake adjustments, though. Perhaps altering the controller braking trigger less sensitive would help?
JackAubrey
Member
For those suffering brake issues - I've found changing brake force to between 70 and 80 helps a lot. Though you will need to fit adjustable brakes for this.
MrPressStart
Member
Just saw this at my Walmart.... Went for mariomaker instead... Probably get this during Christmas!
I really miss those too. Hopefully, they'll be in DLC down the road.
frontieruk
Member
As I've already said Mario maker is eating my time ATM. There is something very compelling about it. Very Nintendo though.
Karspankey
Banned
Just played the demo and I'm definitely interested in buying this. It should be noted that I've always had a dislike for sim racers because of how the AI drives. I loved how the drivatars were actually competitive and made mistakes. The game looked mostly pretty too which is a plus. Also loved the spin you get when you level up. Really liking the mix of gamey fun mods and sim in this. My only wish that the demo had the photo mode!